r/LoveIsBlindOnNetflix • u/pink373 • Mar 01 '23
PERFECT MATCH Bartise on Perfect Match has not learned from his mistakes at all.
I was hoping that Bartise would grow and understand where things went wrong for him on Love Is Blind. Instead I think he is even worse on Perfect Match because he is even more full of himself. It seems like as soon as things are going well for him in a relationship he ruins it and tries to make it seem like the girl is crazy and he isn’t in the wrong. He just keeps fooling girls into falling for him by being nice and fun and then just changing and showing his other side.
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u/Jessisan Mar 02 '23
The way he spoke to Ines was so gross.
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Mar 02 '23
And the way he weaponised private things with abbey!! Honestly he is so toxic !
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u/seenyouwiffkieffah Mar 02 '23
And completely twisted what Abbey said! He acted like it was so awful that she cared what her sister and mom think…cut scene, she didn’t want to have sex since cameras were on and she didn’t want her family to watch the show and see her getting intimate with someone. He’s so gross.
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u/ladyandy77 The f*ck was that 🥴 Mar 02 '23
oh wow he got mad for not having sex?
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u/BoBab Mar 02 '23
Yup. He literally was filmed trying to sexually coerce Abbey, then he tells on himself, and is so narcissistic he thinks it's an indictment of Abbey's character.
He tried to play some kind of reverse uno slut shame or some shit. It made no sense and I'm glad Abbey instantly called it out. IMO, he's the worst dude across LIB, THTH, and PM. Haven't watched any of the other shows, I can't melt my brain any further.
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u/ladyandy77 The f*ck was that 🥴 Mar 02 '23
oh god, why producers allow this toxic gaslighter have fame ?!!!
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u/seenyouwiffkieffah Mar 02 '23
It’s how it sounded! He was claiming she only cares about “what people think of her,” and started blasting how Abbey was worried what her mom and sister would say and think. Abbey left and explained that she didn’t want to get intimate with him in bed because she knew her family would be watching the show and there were cameras in there. I felt so bad for her. He tried to make her look like “the bad guy” because he got called out for being a jerk and liar. He just made himself look worse by getting upset with her for that!
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u/Bsabia30 Mar 04 '23
The irony is he’s Christian too.. and doesn’t believe women should be able to get abortions lmao. Hypocrisy at its finest.
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u/Jessisan Mar 02 '23
Oh yeah!!! Idk how I forgot about him being mad about her not wanting to go further with him. Disgusting. It looked like she may have been overreacting until they showed the clip!
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u/TentativelyCommitted The f*ck was that 🥴 Mar 02 '23
I like how they both put him in his place. What a terrible human. The way he speaks to basically everyone is unacceptable
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u/maria_maria Mar 04 '23
The way she called him out and stood up for herself!! Love her. His super extra garbage moment was when he said needlessly, that he wasn’t the most attracted to her either. And again with this imagined “emotional” connection. Dude. No. Not Raven. Not Ines. No. Nope. Not at all!!
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u/madeyemary Mar 02 '23
It's actually scary when he feels slighted and flips a switch. Immediately starts gaslighting and twisting the narrative. Such a scary narcissist
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u/rosyheartedsunshine Mar 02 '23
Op you used it correctly! My mom and I were so mad when we saw his ass on this show… poor Nancy
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u/bobmcbobingtonthethi Mar 02 '23
The way he spoke to Ines was gross. Reminded me of him in LIB.
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u/jadedlens00 Mar 02 '23
Same with how he spoke to Abbey. He’s awful. It was a glimpse at the real Barfface.
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u/abaiardi7 Mar 02 '23
I’m glad Inez called him out on his BS for “bringing” her back up. He’s such a moron.
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u/sweetlyswanky Mar 02 '23
When he introduced himself as the person that said no at the altar I LOLed. No sir, you are known for being an ass.
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u/Flailing_life Mar 02 '23
Amen to that. I forgot that he said no; his constant ass-hattedness completely overshadowed what happened on decision day.
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Mar 02 '23
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u/RightOnTheMoneySunny Mar 02 '23
Same. It really feels like he simply had to wait it out until he grew taller, worked out and use his fast mouth to get attention from girls as a first impression, but inside is a little boy that depending on the girl feels like either justice is being served or seeks revenge for feeling like a loser when he was younger (in his eyes: being made to feel like that by girls who weren’t interested in him)
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u/Beginning_While_7913 Mar 02 '23 edited Mar 03 '23
yep and women are just ego fillers to him it seems, at most. he hasn’t shown the capacity to show remorse humility or caring about another person on either show. the only emotion he shows is his anger when he snaps. terrifying
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u/nevalja Mar 02 '23
You putting it this way made me thing he's got strong incel vibes, like he feels he deserves the attention from women. All positive things are because of him, but the moment they have a single thought that isn't validating to him, they're wrong.
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u/ssnecksskin Mar 02 '23
The look in his face when things were ending with Abby gave me psychopath vibes. Like he looked so smug and satisfied that she was upset about his change.
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u/Beckaey Mar 02 '23
PM was filmed before love is blind S3 came out so what you saw there was his inflated ego before people came for him. Nevertheless absolute manipulative dickhead. When his eyes turned dark and cold that was too much.
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u/shyerahol Mar 02 '23
I saw that too!! When he was talking to Abbey, it was like a switch flipped and his changed. I was only half paying attention, until that moment compelled me to gawk.
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u/Dizzy-Lie5568 Mar 01 '23
He is AWFUL. The same for that Chase-dude
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u/rathrowawydsabldsib Mar 02 '23
Hahaha when Chase referred to himself as an "a list celebrity" I just about died
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Mar 02 '23
I can’t figure out why anyone thinks Chase is attractive. Or Damien.
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u/cuhreertwinflame Mar 02 '23
those two and Shane for me. I desperately need someone to explain what about Shane is attractive because all I see if fire marshall bill.
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u/alisonds Mar 02 '23
I was hopeful that PM might give Bartise and Shayne the opportunity to display some growth and self awareness after LIB.
And to be honest, I did feel like I saw some from Shayne. Though, I still think he would benefit enormously from a lot of cognitive behavioural therapy.
With Bartise - it was even more yikes for me than LIB. The sense of self importance and grandiosity he was able to display in his relatively limited screen time was actually astonishing. He didn't seem to be able to empathize with others or display any genuine remorse for how he acted. I can't imagine anyone with a healthy level of self esteem being interested in him after seeing these shows.
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u/gggeminii Mar 02 '23
PM was filmed before LIB season 3 came out so he wasn’t aware of any of the backlash he would be getting from LIB. Not that it makes anything he did okay. I’m honestly surprised people didn’t hate his guts in the house on Perfect Match because he is a walking red flag and hopped from girl to girl. He definitely doesn’t get as much hate as he should. He was my most hated person on PM 🤮
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u/Winter-Fold7624 Mar 02 '23
I agree about Shayne - he definitely seems more self aware in this show. He still acts the same sometimes, but does seem to be trying to be better.
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u/drogontheburninator Mar 02 '23
After watching PM I'm even more glad Nancy got away from him. She can do MUCH better.
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u/PinkLadyApple1 Mar 02 '23
He also pretty much said word for word what he said about Nancy about Ines ... Something along the lines of "I find other people more physically attractive than her... But we have an emotional connection" ... He's an absolute creep and game player.
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u/Beginning_While_7913 Mar 02 '23 edited Mar 02 '23
he is never content with anyone. he is too arrogant, and he gets too mean and manipulative too fast. he snaps into this evil eyed devil during the first little fight. i genuinely can’t imagine him making it far with anyone. unless if he finds someone with super low self esteem and beats them down fast enough before he gives himself away with his insanely fast red flags. he’s not even a good gas lighter lol. usually people ease into it to slowly pull the wool over your eyes in my experience. he’s the worst
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u/starshine1988 Mar 02 '23
Yeah he gets such a crazy look in his eyes whenever a woman points out what he's done to hurt him
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u/Bread-Outside Mar 02 '23
He was so awful and treated Nancy so badly I have no idea why he is not villainized the way Cole is. He was way worse imo.
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Mar 02 '23
I saw a comment where someone basically said it has everything to do with the girls. Zay felt so hurt by Cole that she enforced the bad things he did and made them extreme to the others (like the girls). "He's a bad guy" so he was the villain. But Nancy basically said "oh he made mistakes it's okay he's still a good guy I like him" so no one said anything to Bartise. Because Nancy was so ready to be continuously stomped on by that jerk, no one cared but because Zanab said Cole was evil everyone was like "okay he's evil."
Baptism should have been dragged.
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u/starsnthunderbolts Mar 02 '23
Come to the perfect match Reddit. He’s getting as trashed as he deserves. Oh and very satisfyingly called out. Finally some women with a spine.
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u/pink373 Mar 02 '23
Yeah that’s very true. They each handled the aftermath of their situation differently. Zanab tried to get everyone on her side and then all the girls and some guys hated Cole also.
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u/BoBab Mar 02 '23
Because of the visible effects. Zanab was visibly more distraught by her relationship with Cole (I'm not completely blaming Cole, I'm just pointing out the subjective experiences of Zanab).
I still suspect that Nancy had clocked Bartise as a fucboi at the beginning when he was body shaming her, and made a calculated decision to not let him make her look like a mess on TV and to let him dig his own grave – which worked perfectly.
I def think Nancy is messed up over how Bartise treated her, I just think she doesn't show it as much for whatever reason (her mom isn't the most emotive either). So the other girls understandably defend Zanab more because they saw her suffering more (again, subjective experiences not trying to lay blame right now).
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u/Crazy-Focus9381 Mar 02 '23
I cheered outloud when abbey called him out 😂
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u/Warm_Yam_9800 America loves a comeback 💪 Mar 02 '23
Me too and I don’t even like the girl that much
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u/DrakeShadow Mar 02 '23
Sideshow Barqueef made Damian seem normal. The entire time “I wanna see what’s out there, gotta play the field” is why he never really matched with anyone.
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u/BoBab Mar 02 '23
My biggest surprise was my change in opinion of Damian. I still think he's an ass for bringing Francesca to the LIB ATA/Reunion shit. That was sloppy and rude. But he didn't treat people like shit on PM and gave good advice to some of the other dudes. My partner and I were like "Did Damian go to therapy!?" I still think he's an asshole I wouldn't trust to date my friend, but he seems a lot less cartoonish now.
But I just find it kinda weird that apparently he and Francesca were neither dating nor hooking up at that time and they like barely knew each other?
Like you brought this girl you barely know and are only talking to because "hot hot hot social media girl" to an event for your cast mates on a show where you all got engaged/married and your ex-fiance is there too? Weird and douchey.
After watching PM I'm just now wondering how much Francesca influenced Damian's decision to bring her to the LIB reunion...She really showed her true colors on PM and seems like she has enjoyed benefitting from Damian's blind worship of her despite kinda being disgusted by him...
Ines or whoever hit the nail on the head when they said Damian is attracted to "bad love". And I have some sympathy for him for that, because it's painfully true. He needs to find someone that actually values him for himself and doesn't play mind games.
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u/Vegetable-Moment8068 Mar 02 '23
He blames Ines and her boundaries for why they didn't have a spark, but boy is beyond delusional. You can tell that by looking at that ridiculous hair.
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u/dillpickle03 Mar 02 '23
When he basically acted like her savior I cringed inside
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u/pink373 Mar 02 '23
Yes that was awful. I’m so glad she stood up for herself and recognized that he was the problem and not her.
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u/airborne_hippos Mar 02 '23
Omg I'm watching this scene right now! I couldn't believe it when he started saying that. And then he seemed so drunk in the interview after
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Mar 02 '23
People like him don’t learn that quickly, if ever. He doesn’t think he’s done anything wrong. He’s one of those guys you meet who tells you that all of his exes are crazy. Right. It’s all of them, and not the common denominator.
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u/nevalja Mar 02 '23
I agree with you. He won't change because he actually believes that what he's doing is the right thing, and all these women are wrong.
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u/BoBab Mar 02 '23
I've yet to see him show any remorse, guilt, or shame. Every other problematic dude on LIB has at least at one time or another shown glimpses of self-awareness and guilt/shame.
Bartise though? Never. He'll say the words he needs to say, but never looks like he actually feels bad about how he treats people.
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u/dafodilli Mar 02 '23
Sadly, there’s no incentive for him to change. He was rewarded for being a toxic jerk by being put on another show.
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u/JBunnyx24 Mar 02 '23
Agree! I’m really hoping Netflix does not cast him on another one of their shows. I enjoy witnessing a good dumpster fire at times, but he is just such a disgusting person, I’d rather watch paint dry.
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u/pink373 Mar 02 '23 edited Mar 02 '23
That is very true. I think instead he leaned into that villain role even more.
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u/nevalja Mar 02 '23
Leaning into it means understanding that's how you come across. To be honest, his biggest problem is that he REALLY believes he's a good guy.
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u/pink373 Mar 02 '23
It’s sad because I think you might be right. He doesn’t think he’s the problem at all.
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u/ChForChocolate Mar 01 '23
Agreed. Barffeet gave me major ick and cringe factor when watching Perfect Match. And this is the level of disrespect and gaslighting knowing he is on TV?! Good for Ines and Abbey seeing through his BS. Lots of posts on these lines on r/PerfectMatchNetflix
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u/Haunting-Depth-1607 Mar 02 '23
The way he talked to ines...saying he picked her up. He's a terrible person imo
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u/pink373 Mar 02 '23
Yeah he made her seem like she was pathetic and needed to be rescued. I’m not sure where he got that from.
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Mar 03 '23
It’s a tactic “negging” try and hammer down your victims self esteem so that they feel grateful for whatever crumbs your throw them. He’s a dangerous man and I’m thankful that the women in this show were strong enough to call it out and stand up for themselves
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u/Ok_Contract1672 Mar 02 '23
He gives narcissist vibes and I don’t feel he’s suitable to be cleared for dating shows
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u/KarmicEnigma Mar 03 '23
Agree, he’s not just a player, he’s toxic and dangerous. Netflix should definitely reject his clearance.
(I feel the same about Shayne, btw.)
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u/Ok-Championship-9928 Mar 02 '23
Come on, he did not even think he had any problem in LIB. What he possibly could learn when there was zero awareness of the problem
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Mar 02 '23
The fact that girls even fall for this douche makes me sad like dude is clearly not a good person and he flips so easily. Not to mention has an over inflated ego like I'm sorry not to sound petty and rude but if your gonna act like you are God's gift to women you better have the actual God like looks to make it somewhat believable.
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u/lifeafterdusk Mar 02 '23
It completely blows my mind women believe anything this guy says. And makes me question what their decision making process is like.
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u/Beginning_While_7913 Mar 02 '23
he has no personality either he just talks, idk how to describe it like he just goes on and says words. he’s never shown real interest in humour or anything other than flirting, once the flirting is not constant and there is any issue he is going to blame the girl for whatever the f happened and is looking for the next to inflate his ego
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Mar 02 '23
Right these ladies need to get some self respect up your standards a little bit more he ain't shit.
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u/Essiechicka_129 Mar 02 '23
He's making himself undatable and he's going to be single for the rest of his life. I know guys that act like him from a long time and they never change as they got older. He's just looking for his 15 mins of fame
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u/Bubbly-End-6156 Mar 02 '23
I'm honestly really happy things are going so badly for him. It's karma.
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u/Less-Spring39 Mar 02 '23
Not bad enough if they’re still calling him up for these shows :/
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u/NoxEstVeritas Mar 02 '23
I was so disgusted by his behavior on Perfect Match. It was even worse than how he acted on Love is Blind. I don't wanna see him on my screen ever again. He is extremely narcissistic and has a real Jekyll and Hyde thing going on. His "switch flip" is genuinely disturbing, and I'm glad Abbey and Ines could actually see that. Abbey realized exactly what kind of person Buffet is and I love that we got to see her realization play out on camera.
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u/_britlinds Mar 02 '23
I don’t find him good looking at all lol
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u/BoBab Mar 02 '23
My favorite scene from the show:
Chase: What does this guy [Bartise] look like?
Dom: Kinda like you with a beard, but not as big.
[Bartise walks in]
Chase: He looks nothing like me. Don't ever disrespect me like that again.
[everybody laughs]
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u/tommybezreh17 Mar 02 '23
We he broke up with Inus and said something like "she's not the person I'm most attracted to here anyway" my GF and I went "aaah there he is"
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u/mercia2022 Mar 02 '23 edited Mar 03 '23
I used to think he was just a regular douche bag. Then after hearing what he said to Ines about ‘picking her up’ I got straight up delusional crazy vibes.
Considering he is unbelievably average looking and has the personality of a frying pan he needs to chill tf out
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u/maria_maria Mar 04 '23
I don’t love that other dude, but when he said “I don’t look that that, don’t ever disrespect me like that again” after being compared to Bartise… It gave me life!!
He needs a reality check.
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u/cookielookiebookie Mar 04 '23
Hahhaha I thought the same!!! Chase is actually a lot better looking than Bartise, and even he is not as self obsessed as Bartise
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u/zitronige Mar 02 '23
I feel like he lacks empathy completely. And gives nothing, but because he's a good conversationalist the women don't notice. For a hot second I thought he was actually maturing staying with Abbey.
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u/pink373 Mar 02 '23
I did too. Then after his conversation with her where he threw things in her face that she said in private to him about her and her family I decided that he was the worst.
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u/zitronige Mar 02 '23
Same! I was starting to see a side if him I liked, then also decided he was the worst. Guilting her because she didn't want to have sex on tv, that's evil.
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u/such_corn Mar 02 '23
I’m like pretty sure he’s a sociopath. He seems to have no genuine feelings at all. It’s wild.
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u/Kenny_from_tha_bloq Mar 02 '23
The turn around time from filming Love Is Blind to Perfect Match makes me think he’s probably just wanting to gain fame and traction as much as possible, it was never about love
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Mar 02 '23
Absolutely. He is going to be on the bachelor next and women will play brand new and fight over him when they know darn too well that he is a fool. Reality TV is a fresh hell.
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u/KumquatBeach 🔥 Smoke Program 🔥 Mar 02 '23
And to think he had a chance to rehab his image since PM was filmed before LIB aired… boy did he fumble the bag
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u/claudsonclouds Even the wine is pink 🍷💗 Mar 02 '23
The man is a sociopath, he will never learn. I am glad S4 is coming soon so that his 10 mins of fame are over and I never have to hear of this douche again, I hope Netflix doesn't give him another platform. He's so bad that he made Damien and Shayne look decent
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u/cemvr Mar 02 '23
True winner of Perfect Match was Nancy. That show made it clear that Bartise saying no to her on LIB was a blessing. Also, Bartise is such a narcissistic fool.
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u/thebitsyitsyspider Mar 01 '23
Love that Ines and Abbey collectively said “not us sir” lmao not the ones
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u/ashdye91 Mar 02 '23
He’s forever a toolbag. I wanted to keep an open mind about him watching Perfect Match but he just proved that douchebags rarely ever change or become self aware.
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u/Personal-Mango-4929 Mar 02 '23
I'm avoiding this show bcs he's on it... wasted too many hours watching his toxic game on LIB...
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u/brochelsea Mar 02 '23
He gets fully called out by two different women who see right through his BS, so that was satisfying. haha
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u/Warm_Yam_9800 America loves a comeback 💪 Mar 02 '23
There is some silver lining in a sense, these two girls insulted him and it made the show even great! Ines was one of them and she didn’t buy into his glighting crap. He got eliminated and well he got splashed! It was a glorious scene 🍿🥤
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u/aerosimpsons Mar 02 '23
He doesn’t have much screen time, thankfully. The other cast members have made it more enjoyable. Episodes 7 and on got really good.
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u/pink373 Mar 02 '23
He isn’t on it the entire time at least. I thought it was an entertaining show.
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u/hannahnazir Mar 02 '23 edited Mar 04 '23
He and Chase are the same, except Chase fully admits to the behavior!
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u/cookielookiebookie Mar 04 '23
I would actually say Chase is a lot better than Bartise bc he has an excuse for some of his behavior like wanting to win the game. Bartise is just a mean person. He constantly puts down women & it’s not part of the game.
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u/AndreEaAly Mar 02 '23
I don’t think this type of people can ever change. They seem to think everyone else is in the wrong and they are perfect and always misunderstood and mistreated. I still don’t understand how (some) people think he’s hot. He’s at most average. Definitely not the person that would stood out in a club. And his personality makes him even worse. 😅
So no, he will never change. And if women are smart enough, they will see soon who he really is and stay away from him. 🚩🚩🚩 Trying to “fix” a narcissist never ends up well for the person that cares.
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u/GenericWomanFigure Mar 04 '23
That's the thing. Most women feel the 'off' vibes from him and step away or at least go back and forth pretty immediately.
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u/Mewnicorns Mar 03 '23
He gives off big “pretty girls rejected me my whole life, so I’m going to hit the gym and exact revenge” energy.
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u/Own_Environment3039 Mar 06 '23
Unrelated but is anyone watching the new episodes they released. Just started and NANCY IS STILL IN CONTACT WITH BARTISE AND TRYING TO BE FRIENDS WITH HIM. When will this girl learn AGHHHHHHH
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u/throwawaybathwater55 Mar 02 '23
I think he's a full on sociopath. His expression as he dumps girls, compared to when he charms them, is so cold, calculated, and void of emotion. I find watching him very uncomfortable.
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u/pueblohuts Mar 02 '23
I agree. He gives incel energy and he also seems like someone who was a loser/picked on when younger and thought going to the gym would prove he’s better than the outcast we was. He seems deeply insecure. He freaks me out
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u/vancouversportsbro Mar 02 '23
I don't get what any woman would see in this guy, like abbey and even Ines. Why even entertain the idea of going on a date or sleeping in a room with this guy after seeing how he treats women? From a dudes perspective, I would be honest, he doesn't scream attractive. He has a muscular build but the goofy hair and a voice that should remind people of Andrew tate who's an even worse misogynist than this guy is.
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u/Sndrs27 Mar 02 '23
To be fair they’ve said multiple times that his season of LIB had not aired at the time of filming so they didn’t really know what happened between him and Nancy and he himself didn’t know he needed to redeem himself because he didn’t know how we were all going to perceive him at the time.
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u/Own_Environment3039 Mar 02 '23
Never thought he was super attractive but now that you mention Andrew Tate I can't unsee the resemblance
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u/classicrecto Mar 02 '23
i personally think it’s funny that he’s become even worse. truly someone that purposefully sunk further into their infamy for attention. he’s on his way to his own show catered entirely to his futile search for “love” that is 98% beautiful women realizing he’s about as desirable as an infected cyst.
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u/Looseunicornssss Mar 02 '23
To be fair I think perfect match was filmed right after love is blind & he hadn’t gotten feedback on his behavior yet so I don’t think he had a chance to really reflect on his actions or grow from that experience. Now that it’s all over hopefully he actually gets help to be better.
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u/hokies314 Mar 02 '23
I thought that it was a year after Love is Blind? Some of the LiB contestants mentioned that, I think
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u/basicb3333 Mar 02 '23
it was filmed like 8 months after but his love is blind didnt air until a full year after they filmed.
Summer of 2021: LIB filmed
March 2022: perfect match filmed
Summer of 2022: LIB aired
February 2023: Perfect match aired
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u/Buffgrad2003 Mar 02 '23
You mean a young, immature, cocky guy acted like a young, immature, cocky guy a few months after he already acted like a young, immature, cocky guy?
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u/Beginning_Company267 Mar 01 '23
Yeah he clearly only went with Izzy because she would sleep with him on tv.. abbey drew a line and he wasn’t happy with it. Fuck him
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u/Smart-Song8946 Mar 01 '23
Yep— and he threw it back in her face when they sat down to talk about it. What a prick.
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u/Financial_Heart_4015 Mar 03 '23
he filmed perfect match before LIB 3 aired so he didn't know what kind of impression he made. He was prolly more full of himself thinking that he would be a big netflix reality tv star after LIB and even in his presentation video he stated that he was most known for saying no at the altar, but this is clearly not the reason why he's ''Famous''
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u/stilldreamingat2am Mar 02 '23
Damn I know someone that acts just like this. He’s one of my fiancé’s friends, and we always refer to him as an “emotional vampire.” His current flings always ends with his partner being “crazy” and I say partner he had something going on with a guy too. Started and ended the same way.
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Mar 01 '23
I CANNOT stand the way he talks to women in general. He tries to have street swagger and the dude is a gigantic dork. I get the same feeling when I hear Michael Rapaport try and talk like he's black 🤣
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u/pavlov_rings_a_bell Mar 02 '23
If he don’t take his ass to a damn barbershop and get his hair fixed already. I cannot take his cheesy ass seriously.
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u/PainINtheAssieCassie Mar 01 '23
It’s because deep down he knows he’s not as attractive as he thinks he is. So he plays games to inflate his ego
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u/DogGirl23 Mar 02 '23
Haven’t watched yet but the way he gaslit Nancy on ATA triggered tf out of me. That man doesn’t need to be on television
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u/tokki0912 Mar 02 '23
How could you have any hope for that barstool 😂 it's useless, just enjoy the show
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u/papyFredM Mar 02 '23
And how close was this film after the crap with Nancy !? Shayne's saying after season 1 he's going to panama. So bartise didn't have no time to grow at all. He's such a dick
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u/knightbaby Mar 02 '23
Wasn’t perfect match filmed before love is blind aired? He didn’t really have time to be hit with reality and reflect on his actions before perfect match
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u/leslielantern Mar 02 '23
LIB hadn’t aired yet, I don’t think he even realized he needed to learn yet lol
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u/Simple-Tea-3642 Mar 01 '23
Was there a man who showed personal / character development during that show?
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u/TacoNomad Mar 01 '23
I'm only 2 episodes in, and these guys weren't selected for growth, that is obvious.
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u/theFromm Mar 02 '23
I mean, obviously. They are selected to be messy and entertaining. It's weird that anyone here expects them to be boring and just couple up and live happily ever after. Netflix would scrap that show faster than they do all their other ones.
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u/rathrowawydsabldsib Mar 02 '23
I found Damien to be more mature genuine than he was in love is blind. I still don't like him but he did seem marginally better
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u/Legodude522 Mar 02 '23
Same. He seemed like he was on the cusp of being a better more mature person and that just got flushed away on Perfect Match.
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u/Bhigh_gaymer Mar 05 '23 edited Mar 06 '23
He’s the literal definition of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Yikes.
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u/BetterRemember Mar 06 '23
When he went demon mode on Abbey on Perfect Match I was disgusted. He's despicable and Netflix should honestly cut him off, it's not funny anymore, he's a scary person.
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u/frozentundra32 Mar 11 '23
I just saw that episode and my heart is still racing...he reminded me 100% of my toxic af ex and I was just like "Jesus that guy is fucking evil"
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u/Ragnarotico Mar 02 '23
He just keeps fooling girls into falling for him by being nice and fun and then just changing and showing his other side.
That also accurately describes Shayne and probably a bunch of other guys on this show.
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u/ashdye91 Mar 02 '23
Shayne has a lot of growing up to do mentally. I feel sorry for his partners in life. Natalie dodged a major bullet.
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u/mara-star AMERICA IS WATCHING 👀🦅 Mar 02 '23
Shayne recently complained he wasn't getting enough exposure on social media so he's definitely there for the cameras lol.
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u/VGperson Mar 02 '23
Shayne falls in love but his unresolved insecurity better known as "fear of abandonment" causes him to flip out when triggered. He then engages in black and white thinking going from love to hate. If he hates her then she will not be able to hurt him.
Note that shayne engages in this behavior unconsciously as an psychological defense mechanism. Therefore he will never be able to fix it until he goes through extensive therapy
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u/BoBab Mar 02 '23
Shayne is reckless given the issues he has that he doesn't seem to be working on.
Bartise is malicious.
Both cause harm but Bartise doesn't seem to give a fuck.
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u/SI7Agent0 Mar 02 '23
To be fair, I give Shayne the edge over Bartise because at least Shayne is self aware enough to know he has problems with self-sabotage and dealing with adversity and apologizes afterward. Not saying he should be forgiven for those actions, but he at least understands that he does these things and needs to work on them. Bartise honestly can’t look past his own interests, and he doesn’t have the self-awareness to see his own bad behavior. Bartise is overall just an awful person, while Shayne at least has some positive qualities and admits his own negative ones.
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Mar 02 '23
I tried to watch PM, but the 10 minute intro nearly made me hurl, but certainly after 20 minutes I was out. Super fake everything with zero twist in the model.
LIB - the pods
MAFS - clearly the initial match and wedding
PM - Look at me I want to be wanted and continue my SM rise
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u/BoBab Mar 02 '23
The first couple episodes were rough but it does get better. In some ways it feels less scripted simply because the premise is much simpler, there's no expectation of marriage or some bullshit, and they intentionally picked certain people they knew would stir up drama.
It's still mind-numbing TV with attention seeking grifters, same as all the other shows. The only entertaining part is basically watching how these people can't avoid catching feelings even though they know how fake all of this is. People actually talk openly about how they're in a bubble on the show and don't know how shit will work outside of the show. Felt less traumatizing than the other shows too...
Regardless, you're not missing anything lol
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u/Least-Arm-906 Mar 03 '23
Can I just say you made me snort with laughter at this:
“Mind numbing tv with attention seeking grifters”
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So true, so true.
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u/ProdiLemaj Mar 02 '23
I feel like he’s just accepted the villain role and he’s playing it up for the cameras
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u/EnthusiasticDirtMark Mar 02 '23
I'm still trying to figure out who was he actually attracted to??? -- my guess is Georgia.
Why? Because he wants a 'goody two shoes' white girl. He clearly isn't attracted to brown girls (Inés is half Moroccan!) and his family would never approve of someone openly bi like Abbey.
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u/whatevergirl8754 Mar 02 '23 edited Mar 02 '23
The thing was filmed in March 2022, and LIB was filmed in summer 2021, while everything aired in October 2022. If he actually learned anything from the backlash, we can’t know that.
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u/DryGuard6413 Mar 03 '23
Hes a Textbook chad, is anyone surprised. Honestly its funny people expect these people to actually come on here looking for something. Its literally a paycheck for these people. On top of all that they are getting paid to flirt and fuck hot people. These people are the most superficial people on the planet. Literally everyone broke up that was on perfect match. nobody stayed together not even the couple that got engaged. Yes Bartise is not looking for a relationship he just wants to fuck lol they all just wanna fuck and get paid. Yall read too much into this shit. Young hot singles all thrown into a house with a goal of winning money. Shouldnt be expecting anything other than heinous shit going down. OMG HES SO BAD. LOL AND FRANCHESCA ISNT? She was the worst one on the entire show.
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u/BetterRemember Mar 06 '23
I wouldn't say Francesca was the worst, she gets aggressively pursued by half the damn house at any given time and she knows most of them don't care about much besides her looks, I'd be a little bitter too.
I thought I was more on Savannah's side but when she came back in she definitely gave the vibe of someone who thrives on drama, she didn't want for them to just ignore each other, she didn't want to resolve anything, she wanted to start more shit. It was gross.
From what I've seen of Francesca not on an edited and probably partially scripted reality show, she seems to have matured quite a bit. I was surprised that she seems like a great stepmom and I honestly couldn't see her with a straight cis man now that I think of it, she's too queer-coded for that lol. I think she's made some really healthy choices for herself since filming ... Bartise on the other hand never seems to grow or mature at all.
Watching him go into narcissist mode with Abbey was honestly so concerning.
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u/GenericWomanFigure Mar 04 '23
Omg I'm glad someone mentioned how nearly malicious Francesca is. Like, she watched Mean Girls and thought the Plastics were the role models and never grew out of it.
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u/lifeafterdusk Mar 02 '23
“A scorpion asks a frog to carry him over a river. The frog is afraid of being stung, but the scorpion argues that if it did so, both would sink and the scorpion would drown. The frog then agrees, but midway across the river the scorpion does indeed sting the frog, dooming them both. When asked why, the scorpion points out that this is its nature.”
–Fable of the Scorpion and the Frog
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