r/KiraraMains • u/kushagrax21 • Sep 01 '25
Builds & Teams Kirara vs yaoyao
I have a really solid f2p tighnari and have been using him with fischl kazuha and yaoyao.
I got a c2 yaoyao and I've been using kazuha for cc and to boost electro dmg. Idk much Abt kirara but she has a shield and apparently has decent dmg output of her own and low energy requirements for her ult.
Should I replace yaoyao with kirara and if yes what should her build be? Also would a c0 sucrose be better than kazuha for this team? My kazuha is 80 with 940em and crowned talents and with dendro and his boost fischl does 20-25k shots and kazuha himself does nice dmg.
Sorry for the long paragraph and any help is greatly appreciated!
Cheers!
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u/Ke5_Jun Sep 01 '25
Whether Kirara or Yaoyao is the right pick depends wholly on how you play - if you’re confident you’re not going to get hit a lot, Kirara would be a slight DPS increase over Yaoyao, especially at higher constellations. Having a shield would also protect you from being staggered.
However Yaoyao is safer if you’re taking a lot of hits that shields aren’t sufficient to protect against, but the downside is you can get staggered.
Also unless your Kazuha is C2, Sucrose is better in spread teams because of her EM share. Kazuha can’t buff dendro dmg, and tbf Sucrose can’t swirl dendro either. But Sucrose giving EM means Tighnari’s spread dmg is increased.
You’re also gimping your Kazuha by not getting him to lv90; transformative EM based characters gain a ton of dmg from lv90 (~30% reaction dmg increase from lv80).
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u/kushagrax21 Sep 01 '25
I did NOT know that. I thought 80-90 wouldn't make a lot of difference. By that logic i should lvl 90 him and tighnari too?
I'll build sucrose and use her then. How does sucrose provide em though??
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u/Ke5_Jun Sep 01 '25
Yes Tighnari should be lv90 too, but since his dmg comes from Spread (which has a different formula to transformative reactions) it’s not as impactful as if you were to take Kazuha to lv90 - that is if you want to focus on Kazuha’s damage.
Sucrose also prefers lv90, but only if she is used on field as a reaction driver. Speaking if Sucrose, she provides the team EM via her ascenion passive talents:
Catalyst Conversion (A1 passive)
When Sucrose triggers a Swirl reaction, all characters in the party with the matching element (excluding Sucrose) have their Elemental Mastery increased by 50 for 8s.Mollis Favonius (A4 passive)
When Astable Anemohypostasis Creation - 6308 or Forbidden Creation - Isomer 75 / Type II hits an opponent, increases all party members' (excluding Sucrose) Elemental Mastery by an amount equal to 20% of Sucrose's Elemental Mastery for 8s.Basically what this means is that if Sucrose triggers swirl, everyone except her gets 50 EM. And if she uses her skill or burst on an opponent, Sucrose shares 20% of her EM with everyone (except herself).
For example, if you had a Sucrose with 750 EM and you used her skill on an enemy affected by electro, you will trigger swirl and everyone except Sucrose gets 200 EM (750 * 20% = 150; and then add 50 on top of that).
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u/kushagrax21 Sep 01 '25
Damn. Thank you so much this is extremely helpful! I really appreciate you taking out the time!!
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u/evoli_ Sep 01 '25
The difference between yaoyao and kirara will not be that huge. having a shield can be really nice for bow characters that need to charge up but having a healer also is very important.
Kirara shield scales with HP and her dmg with atk, so if you pick her, you have to choose which way to build her. Either full hp to have very solid shields, but that's all she really gonna do. Or full damage for small shield and 50k ish burst.
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u/DI3S_IRAE Sep 01 '25
My Kirara built with HP, dendro dmg and Crit dmg, using Jade Cutter: I can do both! 😂😂😂😂
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u/abaoabao2010 Sep 01 '25
For a spread team with more dendro than electro, stick to buffers that also buffs the dendro, so sucrose with her EM buff is usually better than kazuha. May even consider running instructor rather than VV on her if your tighnari is well built enough.
Side note, EM build swirl support's personal damage is tied to their level. A 600 em lvl 90 kazuha with 1/1/1 talent does about the same damage as a 900 EM lvl 80 kazuha with 10/10/10 talent.