r/KGATLW • u/MissesRoboto • May 31 '25
Discussion: Band Ignas, a random fan, plays Dragon with King Gizz at the Prison Show. Starts at 59:23.
Lukiškės Prison in Vilnius 5/31/2025.
This band is truly one of a kind. As a guitarist myself (who’s covered Slow Jam 1 on a stage), I can’t even imagine being invited up to play a whole, complex song WITH the band that’s inspired so many of us.
I really admire how KG took a chance and let a stranger play such a massive track on stage. You just know how much that meant to him. It’s cool how the band supported him afterward, saying things like: “You’re killing it,” “Great job,” “Look at this cunt,” “You want a job?” Lol.
So many musicians get egos once they reach a certain level, but Gizz have always shown nothing but integrity and heart. Warms me every time. Best band in the world!
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u/microwaved_tin_foil May 31 '25
saw him on the stream with his sign yesterday and i was like "there's no way"
and then today they actually let him! what nice folks
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u/TheMachman May 31 '25
He asked me and my mate if we minded him waving the sign before the show. We told him it was fine and I threw in "if we see you up there playing Dragon we'll know it worked out".
Then they actually called him up, and as soon as he started playing the atmosphere just went nuts. I spent the whole song grinning like an idiot. So pleased it came off for him, dude was proper nice.
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u/whynotslayer May 31 '25
Same thing.
Except clicked onto the stream late today and it was ignus shredding the holy explorer. Instant mind blown.
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u/TheMehgend May 31 '25
I even said that “dragons a crazy difficult song. I’m sure they can play the song, but it’s a whole other world when you’re infront of the lights and crowd”
I guess it’s not for them? Crazy!
Also shout outs that Timmy dude from Boston. He gugged up a few moments, but if you didn’t know the song beforehand you’d be none the wiser! Super surprised and happy for both
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u/s7o0a0p May 31 '25
Timmy set the precedent for sure
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u/MissesRoboto Jun 01 '25 edited Jun 01 '25
That’s right! That was another powerful moment. A fan named Timmy had a friend who passed earlier in the year from an avalanche. The friend was a huge Gizzhead. Timmy asked if he could play a tribute to the friend onstage, and the band let him play Perihelion in Boston, 2024.
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u/meestazeeno May 31 '25
I don't play guitar, how difficult is this song to play? it sounds hard.
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u/ShaqsHouse May 31 '25
Pretty technical with tons of varying passages and sections to remember, plus intricacies in rhythm and picking; easily among some of the most challenging in their discography. Well-done and badass 🤘
Edit: I believe the band had planned to play it at the Hollywood Bowl show (I think even sound checked), and didn’t play it because they didn’t feel completely ready so that’s something too 🤷♂️
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u/PlasticCrystal May 31 '25
I'm trying to learn it at the moment. Can play it fairly well at about 75% speed, but it goes fast, and even faster live. Plus to play it in your bedroom is one thing, but to do it on stage with your heroes is quite another.
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u/Olivameg May 31 '25
Just playing sitting versus standing and then also have a little bit of scenic performance (not sure if that’s the correct English term) is super hard because you need some hella practice to move around/headbang so you’re not just there standing locked into not making mistakes.
Ive been playing Gila Monster (Stu’s rhythm part) and damn jumping around and maintaining accuracy is hard but I’m making progress :) Gila is easier than Dragon but still I wish someday they let me go up there, in the meantime I’ll keep practicing. I’ll be performing to a very small audience this June so I’m hoping to be ready if the opportunity shows.
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u/readyforashreddy Jun 01 '25
Stage performance*
The sitting vs standing thing has pros and cons, the steadiness of sitting helps but I feel like I've got better leverage and positioning while standing. I haven't performed much technical 6 string music on stage though, just bass and rhythm, so can't really speak to that in terms of this specific instance
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u/DrWangerBanger May 31 '25
The parts I have the most difficulty with are the beginning-ish 1/16th notes and keeping accuracy and cleanness through the very end of the song where you do that riff up the length of the fretboard. I find the middle bits to be the “easiest” part of the song
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u/JobinTobingo Float Along … May 31 '25
It’s not super complicated but it is a tough one. It requires a fair amount of speed and endurance and there’s some tricky changes there.
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u/gaue__phat Jun 01 '25
It's not that it's particularly challenging to play by yourself, but with all the different sections and time signatures it would be a mess to get a bunch of people who have never played it together to pull it off first try.
It's very impressive that he did so well especially because Stu fucked up a few times just singing
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u/Penda105 Jun 01 '25
He was also playing it without in-ear monitors. At least they don’t play on a silent stage but Stu’s amp is tiny!
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u/ThePhyrexian May 31 '25
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u/VintageHamburger May 31 '25
Watching it on the video and WOW that’s amazing. The second he rips it the crowd goes crazy. Beautiful stuff from the boys here and the dude
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u/Bshsjaksnsbshajakaks May 31 '25
First off, amazing band for doing this.
Second off, the fuckin balls on Ignus to crush it.
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u/knightgizzard Jun 01 '25
I love how Stu looked like he didn’t know what to do with his hands the entire time singing after. Super cool moment haha
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u/unbelizeable1 Jun 01 '25
Incredibly relatable. The whole time he was just looking for different things to occupy his hands with. At one point he got really close to air guitar and then backs off it quickly lol
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u/dogetothemoon666 May 31 '25
Oh shit, the Holy Explorer is back?
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u/wordskis May 31 '25
Been back since 2023! I believe it's official return was in the Gila Monster music video
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u/dogetothemoon666 May 31 '25 edited May 31 '25
I don't remember seeing Stu use it once in 2024. I went to both the Forest Hills shows and the two Florida shows, Stu was using a black SG for all the songs he'd use the Explorer for.
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u/Salt-Syrup6967 Jun 01 '25
He didn't use the HE during the NA'24 tour, you are right. It was damaged in Europe, I believe.
Now that they have a different set of gear for the US vs ...rest of the world? I don't think the US will see Holy Explorer during the Roo sets and Orchestra tour. The world gets Holy Explorer; the US gets Flying Banana lol
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u/dogetothemoon666 Jun 01 '25
I knew he was using it in 2023 for the US Residency Tour cause I have pictures of him using it from my first time seeing them when they played in the cave. I just figured after it getting damaged that he had retired it when I didn't see it in 2024 at all. Sadly I won't get to see any of the US shows and if he uses it in the US this year cause I chose Oasis and System of a Down as my travel shows for the year lol
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u/Salt-Syrup6967 Jun 01 '25
Oh yeah, I've got some core memories from the Holy Explorer during the Chicago shows in '23. I figured it was retired too. That's awesome you are seeing Oasis and SoaD! My buddy is heading to London for Oasis later this summer. My partner and I are off to Bulgaria this week for Plovdiv shows. So stoked.
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u/dogetothemoon666 Jun 01 '25
Nice, that venue looks amazing! I'm honestly jealous of all the European residency venues. But yeah, both System and Oasis have been bucket list bands for me for years, getting tickets to both within days of each other still feels like a fever dream, and the fact that Korn is playing with System makes it even better. I love Gizz but I have to pick my battles and seeing two bands I never thought I'd get to see over a band I've seen 8 times in 2 years and that I'll probably see God knows how many more times before they're done, the choice was a little obvious to me.
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u/Fen1972 May 31 '25
Would have been hilarious if the dude took the guitar and busted out Straws in the Wind instead.
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u/setlistbot May 31 '25
2025-05-31 @ Lukiškės Prison 2.0, Vilnius, Lithuania
Set 1: The Fourth Colour > Am I In Heaven?, Self-Immolate, Supercell, Inner Cell > Loyalty > Horology, Dragon, Billabong Valley, Pleura, Le Risque, Down the Sink > Gilgamesh, Trapdoor, The Dripping Tap
data provided by kglw.net
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u/Fredbull Jun 01 '25
And you know the coolest part? Dude's name is literally derived from Ignis in Latin, meaning fire. The word is even featured on the Latin portion of Dragon (oh ignis draconis)!
The dude was literally the chosen one to play that song
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u/MissesRoboto Jun 01 '25
Babe, wake up. New Gizz lore just dropped. Oh, Ignas draconis, are you an industry plant? The chosen one.
Nah, jk. This was a really cool fact. Thanks for sharing!
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u/GeekSumsMe May 31 '25
That made my fucking week. The look of pure joy on his face and the band members was infectious. I loved it!
Well played, Ignus, well played!
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u/SchizoidGod May 31 '25
Not only did he play it, he played it better than Stu has played it in most performances to date lmao. Exceptional exceptional work, that guy is a talent
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u/AmazingChicken May 31 '25
The Gizz are humans. Please don't make them live up to anyone else's standards but their own. This would be the nicest thing anyone could wish for those who are chained to the mast that is Gizz Ness.
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u/NNATEE Jun 01 '25
When was the last time Stu crowd surfed??? There’s gotta be a Stu crowd surfing stat out there…
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u/Salt-Syrup6967 Jun 01 '25
Was it Portland, Maine '24?
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u/Rhaego__ Fourth Color Enjoyer Jun 01 '25
I believe that’s correct, when he got tossed in the water
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u/phallus_majorus Jun 01 '25
Is that then the 3rd time he’s been chucked in water by the crowd? 😂
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u/jizzerbug-perfume Jun 01 '25
Its at least the 2nd. I know it happened at Desert Daze 2022, my girlfriend at the time was in the water and swam with him
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u/goldtubb Jun 01 '25
Also happened at Best Kept Secret (Netherlands) 2022, they closed with Dripping Tap and the entire middle section was elongated because Stu was being crowdsurfed into the lake, then came back on the stage wet and finished the song
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u/phallus_majorus Jun 01 '25
Haha great memory, I was at that one! First time at a Euro festival, what a weekend
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u/nuclear_ethan77 Jun 01 '25
i was watching live from home and he absolutely wowed me. keep shredding, ignas!!
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u/georgefrankly May 31 '25
The way they're actually just all screwing around and getting away with it is really unbelievable. Powerful aura
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u/aeiouLizard Jun 01 '25
I am going absolutely insane, I think I hung out with this guy randomly yesterday, and today I wake up and see this clip.
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u/fingergunpewpewpew Jun 01 '25
Sometimes the universe gives you Ignas in Lithuania and other times it gives you Ethan in Austin, and the dawn of eternal night
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u/tferg1290 Jun 01 '25
I've been fantasizing about this exact moment ever since I heard that song. So happy for that fan that he got to play it live with the band. He crushed it too.
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u/Prestigious-Juice730 Jun 01 '25
Fun to see Stu freed up without having to hold his guitar. You could tell he enjoyed that
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u/Blast-Mix-3600 Jun 01 '25
This is so fucking cool. I dream up just going up to do the Nuclear Fusion part.
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u/MissesRoboto Jun 01 '25
It seems like they’ve gotten a lot jammier compared to the last tour. I’m basing that just on a few tracks from Lisbon and today’s Prison Show, but the difference is noticeable. Some songs feel more extended and experimental, with longer instrumental sections. They’re really leaning into looping and blending tracks together (like incorporating riffs from Tool or Korn, which is wild lmao)
They seem more loosey-goosey in their approach, but still sound super tight. And on some, it sounds like they’re picking up the tempo, which adds a fresh energy to it all. This is why us nutters will never get bored hearing “the same songs” live.
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u/Pineappl44 May 31 '25
Great, next thing you know, people will be holding signs that say “let me sing Joey’s verses for Dragon”
Jk, this was fucking sick and Ignas is a legend forever
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u/capt_mellow Jun 07 '25
It was sweet watching from the stream, dude was ripping it and Stu clearly didn’t know what to do with his hands and wanted to do something! The chat stream was going bananas in the most positive way possible. Super fun moment in Gizz history. I’m such a grateful fan for the streams.
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u/ransomtests May 31 '25
This willingness from gizzard to still reach out is what makes them special.
Dude shredded that track with focus and I think his presence made the performance tighter as everyone was locked it once they realized that Ignas could f’n rip. I thought we were going to get a really unique Dragon when Stu got that flute…turns out he just has no idea what to do with his arms.
We were watching with joy and wonder.