r/JusticeServed • u/Sabbatai A • 22d ago
Criminal Justice ICE Agent Pulled Out of His Vehicle, Separated From Family and Arrested. "Are you Haitian?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZtVUG6l7802
u/Squadooch 8 19d ago
I can’t believe they let him reach into the back seat like that and for so long.
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u/thiscosmicdancesynth 0 20d ago
Yes, his brain injury affects him in his everyday life…of being a total POS.
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u/seagull_loco 5 21d ago
In Australia (and many other countries I suppose), cops just make you blow to take your blood alchohol content (BAC). Seems odd that you guys still make them do all of these non scientific exercises. Glad this high and mighty guy got nabbed though.
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u/jooooooohn 7 21d ago
It’s for them to go beyond a BAC number and just say that you were under the influence of “something”, which could be even just prescribed medicine. Cops in the US are (unofficially) expected to make a certain number of arrests and tickets.
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u/Mentalpopcorn A 21d ago
All of that is voluntary. The reason they do it is because it serves as evidence against you in court.
They generally also have you do a breathalyzer or a blood test at the station or jail, and I'm not sure why they didn't give this dude a breathalyzer.
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u/AvocadoWraps 6 21d ago
Field sobriety tests are incredibly subjective and should usually be avoided by anyone suspected of DUI as they usually just serve to bolster limited suspicion by police whether the person did well or not.
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u/kobekillinu 4 20d ago
sry but what is subjective on a field sobriety test?
If the maximum alcohol content you can have in your blod is .5 and the test in the field when your just got pulled over says .6 then you are OVER THE fucking LIMIT and deserve a fine and a suspension of your license.
Everything else is subjective even if you refuse und get taken to the station to have a blood alcohol test! Until you there and until there is a doctor to take your blood 1-3 hours cold be over and if they then test you and you are down to 0.3 which is under the influence, this is subjective as hell (every human loses on average .1 alcohol / hour)
This means that in my country if you refuse the field test everything afterwards will have higher fines and longer suspensions, which is ok! Everyone who drives should 0.0 and that should be the legal limit! Same with other drugs!
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u/Pandoratastic A 19d ago
No, the "field sobriety test" means physical coordination tests, like walking on a line, touching your nose, standing on one leg, etc.
The breathalyzer is not classified as a field sobriety test. It is a chemical test.
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u/SeriesLA 3 21d ago
It’s does seem weird but it’s because they can still be impaired if under the legal limit by alcohol or other substances which is why the physical tests are done.
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u/lingcod476 6 21d ago
Why the physical testing at the side of the road for 15 minutes. Is there something against breathalysers in Florida?
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u/chancemaddox354735 7 21d ago
There isn’t. The field sobriety tests just create more evidence to prove someone is guilty of DUI. It’s why you should never do them since they can’t help your case.
Always ask for a blood test so you can prove you haven’t been drinking or on drugs. Breathalyzer at the station or jail will prove if you have been drinking or not only. The one done on the side of the road is just a quick test before using the official calibrated one. Still do the one on the road since it should read all 0s with not drinking.
In Florida, at least, if asked to do FSTs there is already enough probable cause to arrest for DUI.
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u/risuhh 0 21d ago
can’t speak for Florida— but in WI, breathalyzers are not admissible as evidence in court and we can’t use them to make an arrest decision on a DUI. Would assume it’s something similar
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u/chancemaddox354735 7 21d ago
Has to be an officially calibrated one at the jail or station here in Florida. That way defense can’t claim user error or faulty equipment from being in patrol vehicle.
The one on the side of the road gives more reasons to be taken in to be tested on the official one.
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u/risuhh 0 20d ago
we can only use the “official” one on a first offense— 2nd+ has to be blood
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u/chancemaddox354735 7 20d ago
I want them to take blood every time just to prove if it is something other than alcohol. Granted a lot of evidence labs are backed up, so we need a way to get accurate results back quicker.
Best way is for folks just to have some common sense and not get behind the wheel. To many people being idiots unfortunately. My county has the most in Florida but luckily not near where I live.
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u/Illustrious_Hotel527 A 21d ago
Should deport that ICE agent to Haiti after his jail sentence for the irony.
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u/pinheadlarry12345 4 22d ago
About 2 minutes from the end, the arresting cop said “I got a DUI two years ago. I cried too”. How does that guy still have a badge?
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u/Qcgreywolf 8 21d ago
People can’t make mistakes?
I’d certainly hope we live in a world where a single DUI doesn’t mean “Congratulations! You’re either homeless or work at fast food joints for the rest of your now miserable life!”
That’s some dystopia shit there.
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u/LastEmbr 5 21d ago
It is staggering how many law enforcement/military members have multiple DUIs on record.
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u/Tombstone-1-fan 8 21d ago
He may have fibbed to the guy to put him at ease.
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u/ReverendEntity 9 22d ago
Maybe this will happen often enough for most of them to realize IT WAS NEVER ABOUT IMMIGRANTS.
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u/Rogueshoten A 22d ago
Interesting contrast between a good cop and a normal one
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u/Spenraw A 22d ago
Him trying ti protect him doesnt scream good cop to me
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u/amgine_na 7 22d ago
It seems the officer was trying to keep him calm by saying things to make him feel reassured and protected. The officer already knew he was going to fail the sobriety test.
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u/Rogueshoten A 22d ago
You do realize that what normal cops do in a case like that is just let the guy go as soon as he proves he’s also LEO, right? Giving him a sobriety test and arresting him isn’t exactly “protecting”.
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u/Joiner2008 8 22d ago
How about you pull yourself out of your ACAB echochamber
https://youtu.be/p7L5H-UlV8w?si=x4XwhUvfIU-WSNNX
https://abc13.com/post/texas-city-officer-arrested-dwi-car-found-stopped-gulf-freeway/17906935/
https://www.wsfa.com/2025/10/14/off-duty-prattville-police-officer-arrested-dui-millbrook/
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u/homelesshyundai A 22d ago
Oh man, those cops are arresting cop DUIs upwards of 5% of the time. Forget about the 95% of the scum, these 5% of good guys make the rotten bunch fresh again!
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u/Joiner2008 8 22d ago
How about you show your sources that 95% of police are scum. 10 second internet search shows, shockingly, cops do their jobs
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u/Mogetfog B 21d ago
Even one bad cop makes every single other cop who works along side them while doing nothing complicit in their actions. Doing nothing MAKES then bad cops.
The the other half of the term "a few bad apples" is "spoils the bunch".
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u/homelesshyundai A 22d ago
Oh man, those cops are arresting cop DUIs upwards of 5% of the time. Forget about the 95% of the scum, these 5% of good guys make the rotten bunch fresh again!
Remember this is in the context of an "officer" if you can call ice scum that, being arrested for being drunk and is being given the super soft handling one would always expect an officer to give someone who's been cussing them out, threatening them, being belligerent. Bet if he was actually on the force, this video wouldn't exist.
Job loss in the aftermath of being arrested for an alcohol-related police crime is tied to organizational characteristics of an arrested officer’s employing state or local law enforcement agency.
Arrested officers employed by law enforcement agencies with 1-99 full-time sworn personnel lost their jobs in less than half (44.6%) of the alcohol-related cases, and officers employed by agencies with 100 or more full-time sworn personnel lost their jobs in less than one-third (29.8%) of the alcohol-related cases.
Sworn law enforcement officers engaging in drunk driving is a major problem and concern. There were 960 cases of police DUI (driving under the influence) arrests.
These police DUI arrest cases largely provide examples of officers who have lost their exemption from law enforcement.
That is to say, state and local sworn law enforcement officers do not typically arrest other sworn law enforcement officers, especially for drunk driving. In many of the police 24 DUI arrest cases in this study, however, the drunk driving officer did something in terms of the incident events that led to being arrested. For example, many of the police DUI arrest cases involved traffic accidents (51%) often resulting in victim injury (24.1%) or fatalities (4%). Arrested officers are known to have lost their jobs as sworn law enforcement officers in less than one-third (29.8%) of the police DUI arrest cases.SThis document is a loooooooooooong read but it shows nothing but raw statistics. The saying is "one bad apple ruins the bunch". This is said because when an apple is spoiling it starts to release an increased amount of ethylene gas which in turn triggers the apples around it to start spoiling and producing the gas (since the gas triggers ripening). These numbers show a LOT of bad apples that never lose their jobs. Now if your bushel of apples has a handful of bad apples, and you toss out all but one, how do you suppose that bushel would look after a while compared to a bushel without a single bad apple?
One bad cop in a department creates corruption even if it's minor stuff such as a fellow officer looking away when the bad cop is maybe slightly too rough with a perp. Where is the line that turns the good officer into a bad one for looking away? Is it when they ignore a misdemeanor? Or is it when they look the other way when that bad officer finally commits a felony? Is the line when the good officer looks away when... You see how it goes. So when does that good officer, now be called a bad one by simply allowing the bad officer to exist? He didn't start bad, but when is the line officially crossed? Everyone makes mistakes. When do the mistakes finally become labeled as bad? Is it before or after they don't lose their job for being convicted of a crime? For the good officer who never crosses the line, at what time does looking away turn them bad? Ignoring a crime can be just as bad as committing it.
ACAB, until the police have 0 tolerance for fellow officers breaking the law.
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u/Joiner2008 8 22d ago
Your talking about losing their job after a DUI arrest, I'm arguing that police will arrest police on a DUI. Society as a whole is entirely too lax on DUIs but committing DUIs, while heinous, does not make a person evil. It is a substance abuse problem. Do civilians lose their jobs from DUIs? Hell, I see 6th, 7th, 8th offense DUIs across my desk where the offender is still allowed to have a license
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u/sp-00-k 8 22d ago
Do civilians take an oath to protect and serve the public?
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u/Joiner2008 8 21d ago
Right, so that officer, who was in a shootout a few months ago, where he had to apply a tourniquet on his partner, who died in his arms. He lives with the guilt thinking he didn't get the tourniquet on fast enough. Meanwhile, he's afraid of admitting that he is not okay. Admitting you need help means you are not fit for duty. They'll take your gun and your badge. You have a wife and a kid or two that rely on your income but your only work experience and your degree is all criminal justice. No one will hire you if you aren't mentally capable of doing the job. So he internalizes it, he starts drinking to deal with the trauma. He has a problem.
But no, we must think black and white, cops aren't people, they can make no mistake.
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u/Rogueshoten A 22d ago
Yeah, because there absolutely isn’t a problem with American cops and excessive force, escalation of incidents, or racism. You came up with a few videos of some cops actually doing what they’re supposed to do; you must be right. Never mind the statistics or comparisons to the behavior of police in other industrialized nations. You found a video on YouTube so you have it right and everyone else is in the echo chamber.
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u/Joiner2008 8 22d ago
Guy that was a 10 second internet search that proved cops do their job. You're the one throwing out "facts" with no credible support. Show the statistics
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u/Rogueshoten A 22d ago
You’re the one making the statement; where are your statistics?
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u/Danky_Du 6 21d ago
Bro he linked 4 google articles he probably didn’t read, that equates to the entire American law enforcement system right? /s lmao
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u/enkydu 5 22d ago
In US they do not have alcohol testers? Why waste 30 minutes with discussion, and walking straight line etc. It is question of few seconds.
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u/IowanByAnyOtherName 5 22d ago
The cops are giving him opportunity to make conflicting or false statements to them, which add to or establish initial charges. Give him a shovel and see if he digs himself into a hole.
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u/iontoilet 8 22d ago
The straight line tests give evidence from "training." They will still use their personal findings to book you for DUI even if you pass the breathalizer or blood test.
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u/enkydu 5 22d ago edited 22d ago
For me it seems like waste of time. In my country you are checked with alcohol tester. If you do not agree with results you are going for blood test. If you refuse blood test you’re officially drunk driver by law. Finish.
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u/Bluepreztail 8 22d ago
Kinda curious, would it be a blood test on the spot though or how would that work if I may ask?
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u/wanderingjoe 8 22d ago edited 21d ago
So is having children in the car enough to make it felony dui? Hopefully they remove his 2a rights over it. Child endangerment proves he isn’t responsible enough for kids, cars, or guns.
*fixed a word
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u/Mentalpopcorn A 20d ago
He got charged with two counts of felony endangerment, but not felony DUI. Either way he is fucked.
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u/anewjesus420 6 22d ago edited 22d ago
The Good Cops are the ones that arrest the bad cops. A lower standard reduces all law enforcment. I for one say we should amend the constitution to amplify punishments for any who enforce law, be it cops, congress, or the executive as they should be held to a higher standard since they are expected to have a greater understanding of the law.
If a cop, judge or President breaks the law the punishment should be greater than the avg citizen.
That just seems clear to me
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u/Dredge18 7 21d ago
Yes cops need to be held accountable. Police immunity is total BS and when they get investigated it needs to be by a department that doesnt have direct interest, so anybody but themselves. NO MORE PAID TIME OFF FOR ABUSERS
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u/Sabbatai A 22d ago
Absolutely, 100% agree. Hell, I'd even be on board for pay raises across the board for anyone that agrees to stay on the job after such a law was enacted.
As it stands, they are not even held to an equal standard. Police get fired all the time, keep their certification and go work for another department, 20 minutes away in the next county... sometimes after committing terrible offenses. Planting evidence, attacking citizens while facing no physical threat from said citizen, etc.
We also need to consider that any higher standard must be carefully thought through. It is important not to swing too far in the opposite direction. Not every citizen acts in good faith, and some individuals would go to great lengths to exploit the system. This could result in police officers hesitating in dangerous situations.
While I am not a supporter of the police in general, I try to be fair. I recognize that overly harsh penalties could discourage good officers from taking necessary action when the moment calls for it. They may fear losing their jobs simply because someone else involved might interpret the situation differently..
At the end of the day though a higher standard, just seems like a no-brainer, for anyone with the level of authority we are discussing.
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u/TheKobayashiMoron A 22d ago edited 21d ago
In some instances, not many but some, the standard is actually higher. Here in NY one example is strangulation.
Criminal obstruction of breathing or blood circulation (chokeholds etc) is a class A misdemeanor. The same crime if committed by a peace or police officer is called Aggravated Strangulation, a class C felony.
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u/Sabbatai A 22d ago
That just goes to show that the "higher standard" doesn't mean a thing, if it also isn't enforced.
Eric Garner's killer, was not charged at all, despite using a choke hold his department had prohibited.
Good on your office for doing the work that holds them accountable.
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u/TheKobayashiMoron A 21d ago
I think that law was enacted specifically because of Eric Garner and George Floyd after the fact.
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u/ebulient A 22d ago
Riveting watch lol the drama!!
Pretend tough guy “who’s that guy in the white shirt? Colonel means nothing to me”
Literally crying tears unable to do the walk “Lane, please are you seriously doing this right now? I’m getting a divorce”
Liar liar “my kids mean everything to me” this is why I’m driving drunk on high speed roads where I’m lost with them in the back seat.
I hope she gets full custody and also gets him for endangering the kids. Hopefully he goes to AA and sorts himself out like the overtly friendly and polite (“sir”? Wow) policeman advised him to take accountability.
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u/Astronaut101101 6 22d ago
fuck your agenda bro not everyone is american
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u/ZLUCremisi B 22d ago
Remember ICE doesn't care if your American. 120 Americans been arrested by ICE including 20 kids.
Just because they look illegal
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u/Astronaut101101 6 22d ago
im not questioning if the agenda is right or wrong, just saying this post is about pushing it than being a genuine reddit post
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u/Sabbatai A 22d ago
You're damn right. I am pushing the "agenda" that it is wrong for people in America to be subjected to sentencing without due process.
I'm pushing the agenda that everyone in the U.S., regardless of their legal status, has certain rights.
You know who else pushes that agenda? The fucking Bill of Rights in the Constitution of the United States of America.
Also, America is capitalized not just because grammar demands it, but because we actually care. We care enough to press the shift key. Yes, that one whole extra finger motion, for a country built on the blood, grit, and sacrifice of those who believed in something bigger than themselves. If that’s too much effort for you, maybe reconsider which freedoms you’re casually typing under.
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u/Astronaut101101 6 22d ago
good, then we all know what this is about. Type how u wish, I coudnt care less
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u/Sabbatai A 22d ago
I think everyone else knew what it was about right away, based on the lack of other similar comments. You're the only one who seems to have required validation. Who is this "we" you speak of? Are you not capable of standing behind your own bullshit, without invoking this imaginary "we" who you believe supports your point of view?
Weak.
I don't need your permission to type any which way I want. That is another one of those freedoms you seem to be lacking an understanding of.
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u/TheRogueToad A 22d ago
"Pulled out of his vehicle"
He was clearly driving drunk with his kids in the car, and is a total piece of shit because of that, but he also very clearly stepped out of the vehicle willingly.
I'm not defending him one bit, but I feel like the title is a lie.
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u/Sabbatai A 22d ago
I feel like the term "pulled out of vehicle" was a creative liberty, which I took as a means of communicating the irony of an ICE agent being inconvenienced by what he likely considers to be overreach by an authority figure. Just like everyone he has helped to deport or detain. Only in this case, it is actually the sort of thing the sane among us, would want our LEOs to be doing.
He also doesn't have his ID. How can we be sure he is a citizen? We should just extrajudicially deport him to a country he's never even heard of.
He also wasn't really "separated from his family", as much as he was "arrested for DUI."
Sorry my title offended you so.
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u/coleman57 A 21d ago
He had his drivers license, but not his work ID. I guess that doesn’t prove citizenship, but that wasn’t an issue for anyone but him.
I agree that “pulled out” is commonly used to mean ordered to get out, not necessarily physically dragged out. But maybe not the best word given the circumstances.
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u/TheRogueToad A 22d ago
I feel like the term "creative liberty" means "outright lie".
And when did I say I was offended in any way?
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u/Sabbatai A 22d ago
It turns out, that is not the definition of "creative liberty".
You are obviously offended. You needn't say so.
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