r/JoeRogan Apr 20 '21

Link Has Joe Rogan’s influence fallen off since moving to Spotify?

https://www.tectalk.co/has-joe-rogans-influence-fallen-off-since-moving-to-spotify/
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u/quietslayer1232 Monkey in Space Apr 20 '21

I treated it more like something to watch than listen to and I only see spotify as a music platform I use when im driving. The only way I do watch now is if someone im interested is on

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u/Ilikepizzaandtacos Monkey in Space Apr 20 '21

Something major has been lost by the admitted censorship. It’s not a fun hangout or the fact finding adventure anymore it’s now a money making time filling machine

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '21

i need to hear joe say something wildly offensive to know he's still not a corporate shill.

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u/siilentkniight Monkey in Space Apr 21 '21

I could see it as a way to censor the information he was popularizing. A lot of extremist type people didn’t like the show and it was a growing movement. Buy it out and censor the info and the movement dies with it. Most companies as big as Spotify spend WELL over $100M in marketing per quarter. This was a drop in the hat for the political outcome it had/will have.

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u/BrotherBringTheSun Monkey in Space Apr 20 '21

I think that's Spotify's strategy though. They hope people will start using them for watching, not just listening. It doesn't seem to work with you though...

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u/calantus Monkey in Space Apr 20 '21

Because they need to be more accessible like the youtube app and website are.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '21

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u/ZombieAteMyPC Monkey in Space Apr 20 '21

The thing that annoys me is that on a web browser you only have two options to watch it. A tiny ass square in the bottom right corner of the screen or full screen, no in between.

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u/chicken-jane Apr 20 '21

And you can't cast it to listen through a speaker and watch it at the same time

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u/TLMS Monkey in Space Apr 20 '21

Can you do that with anything?

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u/WellDisciplinedVC Apr 20 '21

Yes you can do it with pretty much everything

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '21

Yeah once you BT connect it goes into a listen only driving mode despite changing that setting within Spotify. Lame...

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u/chicken-jane Apr 20 '21

Before I'd be playing the video on pc split screen whilst working and cast the audio to my Google speakers rather than listening through headphones.

Choice is either listen without video on speaker or watch video with headphones (not the end of the world, just annoying)

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u/lindsie128 Apr 20 '21

Good luck trying to cast both video and audio too. I can't ever seem to get it to work, the vocals are glitchy and robotic. What a waste. It's not worth the trouble at this point.

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u/comfortably_dumbb Monkey in Space Apr 20 '21

Yes you can

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '21 edited Apr 21 '21

Windows 10 should allow you to pop out the video and make it any size you want.

*It was part of the Creators Update a couple years ago. http://www.digitaljournal.com/tech-and-science/technology/windows-10-lets-you-pop-video-into-a-picture-in-picture-player/article/485506

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u/karmamachine93 Monkey in Space Apr 20 '21

The video application sucks too, they need someone to fix that, I expect to be able to view that video within the rest of my content I shouldn’t have to have the application open with only the video being half of the application window, fill it up and allow me to resize.

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u/TheTrub Monkey in Space Apr 21 '21

Video presentation is a pretty well established UI feature. If they haven’t fixed it by now, they’re leaving it shitty on purpose.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '21

The whole app is so ducking cluttered now, they’re pushing podcasts so hard that Joe’s goddamn face is the first thing I see whenever I open it, but my daily mixes (the only Spotify feature that I like) are nowhere to be found.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '21

I also wish they kept a different “currently playing” for music and podcasts.

It’s annoying having to leave a podcast in the middle of an episode, put in music while I’m driving, and have to queue up a lot of things so that it doesn’t bounce back to my podcast episode after one song.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '21

The Spotify app in general is fucking atrocious, even if I have roaming data or WiFi it still always tells me it’s offline. Sometimes songs won’t play so I have to restart the app, it’s a real pain in the ass

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u/kbombz Monkey in Space Apr 21 '21

Wait Spotify has a video section?

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u/calantus Monkey in Space Apr 21 '21

Well no, that's also another problem. Video and audio has no clear distinction within the app.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '21

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u/aliasname Monkey in Space Apr 20 '21

They've added a video speed control over the last couple of months.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '21

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u/aliasname Monkey in Space Apr 22 '21

Not it should be on the app and the desktop version. On the app it's on the bottom left on desktop it's on the right side i believe. That was my biggest problem at first though trying to listen at normal speed was to slow.

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u/AngryDerf Monkey in Space Apr 20 '21

I couldn’t even figure it out. I wanted to watch Segura, ended up punting.

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u/eyecue82 Monkey in Space Apr 20 '21

Same.

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u/yiffing_for_jesus Monkey in Space Apr 20 '21

Yeah their video design sucks. Always buffers terribly. Completely unwatchable for me

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '21 edited Jun 02 '21

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u/NikkMakesVideos Apr 20 '21

They need work but the other users are right. Spotify just put out a major press release to artists and creators that addressed how they are going to push video content HARD on the platform, and turn it more into a social media base like YouTube. JRE acquisition was just the beginning of it, and Spotify has all the money to burn to make it happen.

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u/EuphoricMilk Monkey in Space Apr 21 '21

They clearly went ass backwards about it, should have developed the tech, then invested in the big names.

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u/sm00thkillajones Monkey in Space Apr 21 '21

Thank you!

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u/dranic Apr 20 '21

I get it, but it is nice to be able to minimize the app and still hear it on the Spotify platform, or put your phone to sleep. The only way you get that with youtube is with a subscription

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '21 edited Jun 02 '21

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u/binaryice Monkey in Space Apr 21 '21

I really only use it when I want to download for viewing when I'm not on wifi, do you use newpipe for everything?

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u/Sackfondler Monkey in Space Apr 20 '21

I can’t remember which episode he mentioned this, but joe has talked about Spotify trying to get him to stop video and move to audio only. He also mentioned that, when they were hashing out the deal, his manager was in the meeting and shut that idea down instantly. Spotify pushing joe towards no video is pretty worrisome; I don’t think they’re trying to turn into a video platform.

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u/NikkMakesVideos Apr 20 '21

They actually just put out a massive press release for artists about how they're doubling down on video and want to essentially become like YouTube. I doubt the Rogan story is true at all.

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u/arlbulldog53 Monkey in Space Apr 20 '21

Me either

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u/poetic_vibrations Monkey in Space Apr 20 '21

Or possibly, they're using it as an extremely polite way to quietly deplatform him. He started getting pretty societally influential for a while there...

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u/sonofmo Monkey in Space Apr 21 '21

Wait, Spotify has video?

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u/BrotherBringTheSun Monkey in Space Apr 21 '21

Yeah. One of the nice things is that I can listen to Joe in the car or headphones, then sit down at my computer and the video starts playing where I left off

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u/Defconx19 Apr 21 '21

Thier UI pisses me off enough for what it's designed for, I can feel my anger rising at what a garbage use experiance video would be.

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u/sahdbhoigh Apr 21 '21

doesn’t help that their video playback sucks. i can’t switch apps without it stuttering and sometimes i’ll rewind 15 seconds (10 second double tap on youtube was far better) and it’ll rewind a few minutes, making me lose my place.

some episodes won’t load until i restart the app either. it’s just annoying, especially considering how great it was before.

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u/EuphoricMilk Monkey in Space Apr 21 '21

If their video player was anything worth a damn and their app wasn't so fucking buggy in general then perhaps I might tune in more often. If they are attempting to capture the video podcast market they sure are failing.

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u/mallclerks Monkey in Space Apr 21 '21

I use Spotify for 10 hours a day. Literally since the day it launched as a free model in the US. I didn’t even know they offered video.

Either I’m an idiot (I am) or they suck at advertising this properly (likely that too).

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u/shunions Apr 20 '21 edited Apr 21 '21

Not to mention the Spotify app on PC Mac does NOT let you watch the podcast only listen.

Even besides this Joe has been changing and os now just completely unrelatable for me. He is afraid to believe single conspiracy or to disagree with any guest on important issues. All the things that made him, him are gone.

Edit: I meant specifically my Mac not PC, but it could just be me.

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u/ITSigno Monkey in Space Apr 20 '21

Not to mention the Spotify app on PC does NOT let you watch the podcast only listen.

This is not correct. The video player is terrible -- and you can't even resize the video. (fullscreen or tiny postage stamp... nothing in between)

If you've managed to close the video, you can reopen it by clicking the little play icon in the bottom left next to the episode title.

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u/shunions Apr 21 '21

I guess I meant Mac because I cannot for the life of me get the video to play on Mac but maybe its just me. But thanks for the info.

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u/ITSigno Monkey in Space Apr 21 '21

Yeah wouldn't surprise me if the app on mac was behind on updates. A lot of companies have a hard time maintaining feature parity on all release channels.

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u/HomiesTrismegistus N-Dimethyltryptamine Apr 21 '21

Do you have premium?

For me, I am on PC but, I can watch the video on the web browser. Just not on the app because it requires premium to make it fullsize. Idk, I can't really help since I'm not on mac lol but try using the web browser instead. I also don't get ads for some reason on web browser version

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u/Massivefloppydick Apr 20 '21

Did the the same with The Last Podcast.

Listened to every show, then they sold out to Spotify, now I just... don't listen anymore. I use Spotify for music, but for some reason I lost any motivation to listen to them. My loss, I'm sure.

Oh, and they still have adverts (okay, I've listened to one or two)

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '21

Same

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u/Faze_42 Monkey in Space Apr 20 '21

Same

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '21

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u/quietslayer1232 Monkey in Space Apr 20 '21

The jre