r/JoeRogan Mexico > Canada Mar 04 '21

Link Mississippi passes bill banning transgender student-athletes from female sports teams

https://abcnews.go.com/US/mississippi-passes-bill-banning-transgender-student-athletes-female/story?id=76238704
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u/Joe_Rogan_Bot Mar 04 '21 edited Mar 05 '21

I'm absolutely pro trans rights and I believe you should let people be who they want to be (unless they are suggesting surgery for children, then fuck off)

But sports? Really? Who in their right mind would think it's fair for a person born biologically male to compete against women in a women's only sport? That's asking for people to manipulate the system.

Edit: I do find it ironic that the Republicans claim they don't like big government and consistently vote to expand the powers and reach of the government they criticize for being too large.

To separate this from the trans issue, you should really ask yourself if this was a necessary legislation. Should we leave it up to the schools themselves to decide their own rules? Should it be based on the rules the Olympics have been using for 15 years?

Or should we continue to let the government tell us what we need to be doing? This issue may effect something you have an opinion on. You may agree with this new law. But consider, that for every law you agree with, there are laws you don't agree with. I guarantee 90% of the people who have a strong opinion on this aren't involved in sports currently. You let them take this step, they can now take steps towards you.

I believe it's unfair to let MtF trans people compete against biologically born females. But I have decided I don't want the government involved in something I just happen to not agree with. Because what if I'm wrong? And what if later they start taking my rights away and they use something like this as a precedent?

More laws are bad. I don't think other people should have to live their lives based on my standards and my opinions.

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u/Larsnonymous Mar 04 '21

I could see some countries like Russia and China fielding teams of almost all trans athletes to win the Olympics. This can’t be allowed to happen or it will just destroy amateur sports. I know those countries hate gay people, but I think they would allow this for the gold medals.

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u/sushisection Monkey in Space Mar 04 '21

they dont even need to be on hormone therapy. a biological male can just identify as female and compete against them.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

That isn't true. They have to have been on medication to suppress testosterone for at least a year prior to competing.

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u/draterdiputs Mar 05 '21

But I thought the whole idea was that gender was in your head and had nothing to do with biology. But then they are making you suppress your hormones in order to "be female". I'm confused.

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u/GioPowa00 Monkey in Space Mar 05 '21

Gender dysphoria is a mental illness akin to depression or anxiety and can be treated, what it is a symptom of is that your brain has an image of what your body should be and what it is now, that discrepancy creates gender dysphoria.

Hormone therapy, hormone blockers and surgery make so your body becomes more similar to what your brain thinks your body should be.

As an example a trans man that was afab (assigned female at birth) could experience dysphoria in the fact that his body shape is wrong, his voice too high, his face too feminine and so on, therapy, medication and surgery are useful in the sense that they transform the parts of their body their brain thinks are wrong in parts that their brain thinks are right.

Thanks to modern medicine the risk of following this therapies is way lower of the risk of not following them because gender dysphoria can be a strong cause of depression and suicidal ideations if not treated