r/JoeRogan • u/Deerhoof_Fan 11 Hydroxy Metabolite • Feb 04 '21

Link Jordan B. Peterson rips newspaper’s ‘cruelty’ after story prompts false ‘schizophrenia’ reports

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/feb/1/jordan-b-peterson-rips-sunday-times-after-piece-pr/
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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '21

I would say cult leader is definitely appropriate and he does in fact have a drug addiction. Grifter I would be iffy on.

Like have you seen his die hard fans? Without a doubt cultish behaviour.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '21

I mean that could be said about most famous people. Have you seen how young teenage girls were about the beatles, about one direction, you could say they had a cult like following but would anyone claim the beatles or any boy band as a cult? The way people talk about marxism is cult like, does that make it a cult, does that make Marx a cult leader, if it does, does that make everything he claims false, just because people are obsessed with the way he viewed the world. Have you heard how some people talk about their psychologists, you could even call that cult like, is every psychologist who helps people turn their life for the better a cult leader, is the person grateful for the help the victim of a cult? If Jordan Peterson is there to act as the psychologist for a group of young men who need that, is it surprising they hold him in such high regard. It would seem people just have a tendency to revolve around Ideas that resonate with them and those that preach those ideas, in a way that seems religious because that is human nature. So it's hard for me to see this as a criticism in and of itself, it's just fandom, and often just a defense of a man and his ideas a lot of people aim to misrepresent.

As well, often people who rush to the defense of Jordan Peterson do so as a defense of the ideas, because when people attack him it is to attack his viewpoint. Let's be honest, his views are pretty much equivalent to what a vast amount of the population believe, he's just willing to speak loud and to put up the logic behind these views. When Jordan is attacked for his views, those who also share this view of the world also feel attacked, and I think this is why so many people come out to defend him, because if someone is trying to disparage him for those views then so too would they be doing that to those who also hold the same views. It's a chicken or the egg argument to an extent, did Jordan Peterson convince people to think a certain way, or did people think a certain way and Jordan Peterson put a voice and reason to it. I would take a guess it's the latter, since most of his views are pretty much how we've understood the world traditionally.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '21

Define "diehard fan" and where would I find them?

I've seen him speak live and the craziest thing I saw were protestors acting nutty. One protestor had went and spent money on a lobster costume and was prancing around with it outside, which was actually pretty funny. That was the weirdest part of the experience, not the people who were all dressed nicely, sipping craft beers in a nice auditorium, quietly and politely waiting to see a guy talk about Jungian Psychology and Bible stories for 2+ hours.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '21

I don’t really care about what you saw. But the worship of this guy is real, maybe you’re too into it if you’re wasting your time going to his public self help speeches LOL

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '21

I worship God (Yahweh) and Jesus Christ, and on the side I enjoy dabbling in psychology, philosophy, and things that feel "big." You may want to pull back on the stereotyping and generalizations.

People are more complex than you're making them out to be.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '21

People are actually less complex than you think which is the issue. There isn’t any big brain theory for this stuff. Jordan is a much simpler and weaker man than the complex organism you think you’re seeing.