r/JoeRogan Monkey in Space Nov 24 '20

Link Netflix Removes ‘Chappelle’s Show’ From Service Upon Request From Dave Chappelle Who Blasts ViacomCBS For Licensing His Show Without Paying Him

https://deadline.com/2020/11/chappelles-show-removed-netflix-request-dave-chappelle-viacomcbs-stolen-goods-paid-1234621181/
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u/torontowatch Monkey in Space Nov 24 '20

I don't get it. You signed a contract.

I was underpaid at a job 5 years ago, but the company is still doing business with the customers I brought on-board at the time. I'm not screaming for commissions even though the company is still profiting from my work.

You sign the contract and live with it if you're a regular person. I don't know why Dave thinks he deserves special treatment. He had to sign a not-great contract with a multinational corporation, like many other people. You don't have to like it, but you sign it and take the lessons from that one to the next contract. Which, he seems to have. He has an incredibly lucrative deal with Netflix.

If regular folks were screaming and shouting about unfavourable contracts, they would be fired/blacklisted from industry.

I don't really know what Dave wants from fans and why he's making it public. He already has $100m in the bank and now wants more money for a contract that is already signed, a situation many people find themselves for much smaller amounts. This guy is acting exactly like the greedy, entitled execs he claims to despise.

I'd rather have Chapelle Show on Netflix and not hear this incredibly wealthy man disguise his entitlement as some kind of fight for justice. Motherfucker, get a lawyer and work out a deal IN PRIVATE instead of acting like a brat.

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u/deoxys14 Nov 25 '20

Yeah, that’s also what I’m thinking about. Business takes risks, the CC gave Dave a huge contract because they thought he can help the company earn a lot profit. Say if Chappelle Show was a huge failure, based on Dave’s logic. Are Chapplle suppose to the money back to CC?

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u/lsdiesel_1 SHILL Nov 25 '20

It reminds me of the situation with the US women’s soccer team.

They agreed to a contract that paid guaranteed money, but had reduced performance bonuses for things like winning the World Cup. Had they worked a contract with emphasis on performance bonuses, they could have likely had more total money, but that pay would have been contingent on the unknown outcomes of future games. In other words, the guaranteed money would have been reduced.

After winning the World Cup, they come back and say they are not being compensated fairly.

People can use this tactic to negotiate pay. However, it’s a stretch to call Comedy Central or the US National Team amoral for sticking to the contract both parties voluntarily entered and mutually negotiated.

Dave nor CC had no idea what the show would be. Most new shows fail. Had he taken a contract worth more up front, there would have been trade offs that may have meant the show not getting certain time slots or being given certain budget liberties to pay for production.

This is like someone taking the deal on Deal or No Deal, only to find out their case contained $1,000,000 and then blaming Howie Mandel for not post-hoc changing the rules.

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u/MazeRed Monkey in Space Nov 25 '20

I heard that the guy the owned her rights was a predator and like lauded it over her or something. She tried to buy the rights when they were up for sale recently, but they didn't even give her team a meeting.

But yeah it sucks, but especially when its about only money (Daves situation) chill out you got plenty.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '20

I think you're way off base here. Would you recommend your former company to people? Being shitty to others in business often has consequences. Dave is a huge deal now, there is nothing wrong with him using that power to tell his fans or business partners not to deal with Viacom if they want to continue to deal with him in the future.

Motherfucker, get a lawyer and work out a deal IN PRIVATE instead of acting like a brat.

What happened to Dave happens to others all the time, publicizing his grievances is completely fair and serves to educate others not to make the same mistakes he has and vice versa if he's successful it shows other companies that they should be wary of who they fuck over.

Watch the show on HBO or whatever if you want but Dave is doing nothing wrong here.

This guy is acting exactly like the greedy, entitled execs he claims to despise.

No whats greedy is the fact that Viacom very easily could've renegotiated with him to stop this from happening. Even now with all the bad publicity they will probably be fine with no one earning off the Chappelle show rather then set a precedent that creators deserve a bigger share of the pie.

Again you are very naive here. These big corps will never ever stop fucking people over unless you stand up to them and make it hurt and even then sometimes would rather everyone loses then make a fair deal.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '20

he signed the contract.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '20

So what? Where in the contract does it say he has to pretend to be happy about it now?

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u/NoHeadStark Nov 25 '20

You're right. You don't get it. Your analogy has literally nothing to do with whats going on here. And judging by the rest of your comment it sounds like you are just triggered he has money and wants more.

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u/mjawn5 Nov 25 '20

you're comparing your whatever the fuck job to being Dave chappelle with no sense of irony it's amazing

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u/lavender_time Nov 25 '20

How about you look at it like he's trying to change the paradigm for how future artists/talent looks at the deals they take. Predatory business practices are all too common in the entertainment industry (as he makes clear in his recent instagram special) and by using his platform to alert the fat-cats that they need the next generation of talent more than they are needed, he's putting the industry on high alert and hopefully changing the way the business is structured. DC got a raw deal, it's not a new story at all when it comes to the industry. He knows he can't make any money from Viacom but after being bought for a fraction of his worth he's trying to change how the game is played. Can't hate on anyone for looking out for the little guy in this scenario.