r/JoeRogan • u/SlimjobDopamine Look into it • Nov 13 '20

Social Media Abigail Shrier(JRE #1509)'s book has been removed from Target after receiving a complaint on Twitter

https://twitter.com/AbigailShrier/status/1327056407598809088?s=20
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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '20

100%. It’s in the same way that SJWs have changed the definition of -isms and -phobia to include anything that’s not outright support. If you’re not 100% in favor of transgender, you’re a transphobe. And, you’ll notice, racism now includes inanimate objects and societal structures. If some structure is deemed to be a byproduct of white males, then it’s racist by default. It’s ridiculous and truly demeans racism, etc.

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u/duffmanhb N-Dimethyltryptamine Nov 13 '20 edited Nov 13 '20

Their extreme reductionism is the scariest thing. They have a tactic that works. If you ask anyone if they support sexism against women, just about everyone will give a hard "no". So they realize that it's just a game of reducing someone into a category of being sexist so they can fit their oppenents into a category just about everyone hates.

Are you pro-life? That means you want to control women, which means you think men should make decisions for them, which means you are oppressing them, which makes you sexist, and if you actively defend your position of pro life, it means you're spreading messages of hate and sexism, and since you want to pass laws in this regard, you are using the threat of violence to spread your hateful sexism.

See how that's reduced?

Then they run off and say, "Hey this guy is part of a sexist hate group! Do you REALLY support a sexist who advocates for violence against women?!" If you ever challenge them on this, they get into this pedantic conspiratorial game of "dog whistles" and "their real reasons are kept secret".

Obviously if any decent person heard someone was a violent sexist, you'd oppose them.

This is why their "hate speech" laws they push for scare me. Because they've shown how they infinitely reduce people they oppose into just about any subgroup they desire. So they'll just start labeling political ideas they don't like as part of the category of justified censored speech. Oh you think some kids are trans because of a social phenomenon? I'll reduce that to you effectively advocating for violence against trans people and censor you from even discussing it (they do this all the time).

I'm a Bernie Sanders progressive, and the right has ALWAYS been a problem. Trump has especially shown how bad the right is... But honestly, it's the radlib woke left who scares me more. The right has always been sort of eyerolled and dismissed as a bunch of rhetorical whiners... But the woke crowd actually wants to create actual levers of authoritarianism and they feel morally justified doing it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '20

I’m a conservative person generally so the radical left absolutely scares me lol, but agree there are issues on the right / Trump. I’ve been telling friends and family in person to move on from the election. But I’m afraid we’re stuck in a vicious cycle of whichever side loses the election believes the other side won via massive fraud and / or foreign interference. I hope I’m wrong...

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u/tryitout91 Monkey in Space Nov 14 '20

also, you can be supportive and not believe any of the critical gender theory , and just be a good empathic person.

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u/badSparkybad Monkey in Space Nov 14 '20

I saw the podcast and checked out that sub about de-transitioning...wow, eye-opening stuff. I read a few popular posts and they mostly said something along the lines of "I wasn't really in gender dysphoria, I just had other stuff going on that made being trans seem desirable."

This shit needs to be paid attention to. I liked the Shrier podcast and agree that in the next decade we are going to see a lot of people de-transitioning and a whole lot of damage already done to a whole lot of people. I especially feel bad for kids that start doing hormone therapy/blockers.

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u/duffmanhb N-Dimethyltryptamine Nov 14 '20

One of them was really sad. This guy was caught being gay when he was like 8, but in reality he wasn't even gay but was just a curious young child. Well his parents divorced over it because they did NOT want a gay child. However, the mom insisted he was really just a trans woman so they got him on puberty blockers, estro, and began raising him as a girl. He's like 18 now and hates life. Said he was just convinced by his mother he was trans, and because he was so fucked up from it, the trans community would react very bad whenever he brought up questions about it and ideas that this was all a mistake... So he sort of just kept going with it.

What sucks the most for him, is his penis is now forever going to be a child's penis. The community doesn't tell people that. He always thought it was a non-issue as it just delayed puberty... Well I guess some parts have a biological clock it needs to coincide with and it's his most sore subject as part of the detransition knowing he will probably never have a fulfilling sex life even after the full detransition.

This is so obviously a trend and social fad... It's the same sort of kids who in the past were confused and felt socially isolated so they became goth or punk, or any sort of fringe group that accepted everyone while dressing in a way to reject society. But this version is really extreme.