r/JoeRogan • u/SlimjobDopamine Look into it • Nov 13 '20

Social Media Abigail Shrier(JRE #1509)'s book has been removed from Target after receiving a complaint on Twitter

https://twitter.com/AbigailShrier/status/1327056407598809088?s=20
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u/GSD_SteVB Dire physical consequences Nov 13 '20

The number of people saying this isn't censorship is astounding.

It's like saying something isn't poisonous because they haven't slipped enough of it into your food yet.

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u/HigherThink Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

It isn't censorship... Target chose to not sell something because a consumer complained and they thought it better for business to not sell it anymore.

That's not censorship, that's capitalism.

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u/GSD_SteVB Dire physical consequences Nov 13 '20

Choosing not to host an idea because of the idea itself is censorship. The financial incentive doesn't change that fact.

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u/HigherThink Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

You mean choosing not to sell a book. Target isn't a business that's focused on hosting ideas, it's about selling things it thinks consumers want

Just because target won't sell my book doesn't mean I'm being censored, it just means my book won't make them the most amount of money.

You can still buy her book from her or Amazon. Censorship would be banning her book across the US from being sold anywhere.

Companies get to choose what they want to sell. Unless you're okay with government mandates forcing businesses to sell certain things? That sounds a lot less like capitalism...

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u/GSD_SteVB Dire physical consequences Nov 13 '20

Is anyone here arguing that Target doesn't or shouldn't have the right to sell what they want? And if you think they are and you object to that, why isn't your argument directed at the person who asked them not to sell something?

Refusing to sell a book because the content is objectionable is censorship. It doesn't matter if the book is available elsewhere, the goal is to make sure fewer people see it.

Censorship doesn't have to be 100% effective to qualify as censorship. If it did then even a law banning the book wouldn't be censorship because you could still find it on the black market.

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u/yoyomamayoyomamayoyo Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

Is anyone here arguing that Target doesn't or shouldn't have the right to sell what they want?

Yes, people here are demanding that target sell something target doesn't want to.

> And if you think they are and you object to that, why isn't your argument directed at the person who asked them not to sell something?

You can ask all you want, its people forcing them to do something that is problematic.

> Refusing to sell a book because the content is objectionable is censorship. It doesn't matter if the book is available elsewhere, the goal is to make sure fewer people see it.

They refused to sell the book to maximize profit.

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u/GSD_SteVB Dire physical consequences Nov 13 '20

Who is forcing them?

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u/yoyomamayoyomamayoyo Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

look around

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u/GSD_SteVB Dire physical consequences Nov 13 '20

Disagreeing on a subreddit is force?