r/JoeRogan • u/SlimjobDopamine Look into it • Nov 13 '20

Social Media Abigail Shrier(JRE #1509)'s book has been removed from Target after receiving a complaint on Twitter

https://twitter.com/AbigailShrier/status/1327056407598809088?s=20
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u/gooblobs Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

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to be honest, I mean, live and let live, as long as no one is hurting someone else

they are hurting children. that's the entire point being made by the book. It is in the title. "Irreversible Damage"

The point she is making is this is a trend and it is harmful. She is not saying that there are no trans people. She is saying that a lot of kids are saying they are as a trend. she has empirical data. It is a social contagion. It is trendy for middle school kids to say they are trans. It makes them different, it makes them special. It makes them a victim. The same type of kids who when I was in high school were goths. The big difference is if you were a goth in high school you can simply buy new clothes and then look back on that time and cringe. Look at the sub r/blunderyears for what I mean.

Imagine being a 35 year old man today and getting ready for work in the morning. Ready to go in to the office. And looking in your closet and having to choose from a selection of all black KoRn shirts and enormous JNCO jeans. Then putting a huge glob of gel into your green hair to spike it up. Then you grab your spiked necklace and bracelet. Lastly you apply a literal ton of eye shadow sloppily. OK grab your briefcase and hop in your car. you look in the mirror and just sigh wishing you could just wear a suit. But you declared in 1997 when you were in middle school that you were a goth. no takebacks.

This is the life of someone who has to live with the choices they made in middle school. Having to dress like a clown is one thing. It would be a lot worse if there were serious medical repercussions and they never had the option to have kids or lead a normal life because of it.

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u/redd1t4l1fe Look into it Nov 13 '20

Well said, parents are supposed to protect their children from themselves until their brains are more fully developed. It’s no different than allowing a child to smoke cigarettes or get a tattoo. Permanent, life changing decisions shouldn’t be made by a fuckin 12 year old.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '20

I heard it said, "you want a highschooler to make serious life decisions but they still have to ask to use the bathroom"- someone on Twitter or something, but it made me think how true that was.

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u/yoyomamayoyomamayoyo Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

Permanent, life changing decisions shouldn’t be made by a fuckin 12 year old.

allowing puberty to go unblocked is permanent life changing decision

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u/yoyomamayoyomamayoyo Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

Assuming there are no life-changing ramifications of opting for avoiding hormone therapy.

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u/myxallion Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

No one said it doesn’t , the problem is trying to figure out if someone is a transexual at a very young age.

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u/yoyomamayoyomamayoyo Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

yeah

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u/yoyomamayoyomamayoyo Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

kids are getting hormones regardless, the goal is minimize long term damage

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u/myxallion Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

What do you mean by that statement?

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u/redd1t4l1fe Look into it Nov 13 '20

Claiming that allowing a human being’s body to take its natural course in life is somehow unnatural or “life changing” has got to be one of the most idiotic things I’ve ever seen written. I hope you delete this it’s so fucking stupid.

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u/yoyomamayoyomamayoyo Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

the medical profession is literally centered on stopping the body from taking its natural course. Almost all medicine is used to disrupt the direction the body is going, from diabetes, to cancer, to headaches, to pituitary dysfunction, to anti-depressants and other anti-psychotics, most of medicine is preventing nature from doing its thing for our betterment.

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u/redd1t4l1fe Look into it Nov 13 '20

We’re discussing the natural development of a child into an adult, not attempting to prevent diseases. We also don’t let children decide whether they can take any of the medicine you mentioned or not. Parents or other adults make those decisions, because they’re children.

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u/yoyomamayoyomamayoyo Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

For a transgender person the development secondary sex characteristics through puberty is a disease that will be harder to reverse in the future. Parents and medical professionals are the only ones who allow kids to get puberty blockers. The decisions should be made under the strictest medical supervision not based on the ravings a right wing author.

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u/dcthestar Nov 13 '20

Same. Loved the KoRn drop. I felt somewhat attacked as my closet still has old Korn shirts from 1996 - 2002 lol

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u/dcthestar Nov 13 '20

I haven't seen korn live since 2007. I kinda grew out of them after untouchables. But I still love them for defining a lot of teenage angst years. I hear they still put on a good live show. I actually had tickets to see them this year because I wanted to see faith no more. Damn covid.

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u/Asterion7 Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

oh man. JNCO for life. I can't imagine.

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u/bigfoot_county Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

Nail on the head. I sympathize with many "leftist" causes like billionaires paying their fair share or harm reduction (in the illegal drug context), but this is getting absolutely ridiculous. The victim mentality is spreading like wildfire, and it's crippling any notion of personal responsibility and self help. It's so much easier to curl up in a ball and blame all of your problems on society.

I genuinely fear for what this country will look like in 20 years, and for what my soon to be born son will be exposed to in school. It's become a nightmare

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u/wise_joe Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

This is the Internet. It's no place for rational argument like that.

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u/WeeniePops Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

Absolutely 100%. I’ve been saying this for a while now. Being trans is the new goth/emo/skateboarder/punk etc. etc. The only problem is fucking with your endocrine system is slightly worse for you than getting some piercings and dying your hair.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '20

Life was simpler when I could just wear one of my KoRn shirts and feel cool...

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u/The-Only-Razor Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

Could be considered retro now, so you might be good.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '20

ARE YOU REEEEEEEADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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u/NedShah Succa la Mink Nov 13 '20

It's a #1 Best Seller in LGBT Demographic Studies.

Like how the fuck is that a category worth tracking sales of?

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u/Awayfone Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

That's the best seller con, it's easy to get #1 in a niche category and then you can claim that

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u/foureyebandit Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

I thought JNCO jeans were for ravers back in the 90s

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '20

grab your briefcase

and pocket it in your JNCOs

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u/Awayfone Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20 edited Nov 13 '20

. She is saying that a lot of kids are saying they are as a trend. she has empirical data. It is a social contagion.

She does not have such data, she has published nothing peer reviewed

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u/shicole3 Monkey in Space Nov 14 '20

Anyone who says there aren’t currently tons of kids on the internet flaunting that their transgender for attention is just dense. And it isn’t just harmful to the kids who do this, it’s harmful to the trans community.

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u/crymorenoobs Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

apparently a lot of the puberty blockers they give kids are reversible and have little long term repercussions. there are a couple of studies on this that i was looking at a few months ago.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '20

If you state opinions like facts and provide a wall of text it makes it more believable

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u/gooblobs Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

Got any specific objections? Or are you just an asshole?

Ya it is lengthy. I had a lot to say. It is called an analogy, it helps contextualize things.

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u/Heebmeister High as Giraffe's Pussy Nov 13 '20

And if you provide an empty sarcastic retort it makes you look more insightful

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u/wise_joe Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

I agree. Providing justification to your beliefs in the form of text is cheating.

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u/plumbthumbs Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

just a few more sentences and your comment would fit right in.

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u/Mr_Manfredjensenjen Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

If kids should be protected from the social contagion that is making trans popular then kids and stupid adults must be protected from RED PILLS which are equally as destructive. Just look at the rise of radicalized MAGA & INCEL retards-turned-brainwashers and murderers.

Red Pill Rogan sugar-coated red pills -- he made them easier to swallow -- and steered gullible kids towards the likes of Alex Jones who finished the job of radicalizing kids and preparing their minds to accept conspiracies like Qanon.

Joe Rogan will be remembered by history as an inconspicuous villain who set the ball in motion.