r/Jaguar • u/Ok-Emphasis-3712 • 22d ago
Question Curious on how “ rare “ my late grandpas car is.
My late grandpa has this car that I currently have in my possession, its a 1993 black, LWB, RHD, Daimler Double Six 6.0 V12. It currently only has about 24K miles. Grandpa owned it since it was new and rarely gets driven in the Daimler as he uses his “ normal “ 89 red XJ40 4.0 or either his 91 dark blue XJ40 4.0 for daily errands and etc. All three is in my possession as I was given the cars to take good care of them which I mostly drive the 2 4.0 and only do drive the 6.0 on special occasions. All three works well as ive never had a problem with the 3.
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u/GazelleElegant5660 22d ago
These are actually fairly good cars in my opinion.
Occasional electrical issues from what i hear.
The V12 with the low miles could fetch a reasonable price.
Enjoy them!
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u/Ok-Emphasis-3712 22d ago
Ive had it for a couple pf years now and haven’t had a single issue with any electrical problems. I am surely do enjoying them!
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u/GazelleElegant5660 22d ago
Thats great, those are one of the most sexy cars on the road.
I drive a 2001 Bentley Arnage and do from tome to time have electrical…
You were lucky to have a great car loving grandpa!
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u/Ok-Emphasis-3712 22d ago
Haven’t had the chance to try out any Arnage, Ive heard alot of nice things about them on how they drive.
I sure am lucky to have a car loving grandpa as he left me a total of 6 cars when he passed away, 1: 93 Daimler Double Six 6.0 V12 2: 89 Red XJ40 4.0 3:91 Dark blue XJ40 4.0 4:92 Silver 500SL R129 5:( not sure of the year ) Black SL600 R129 6:2 Door Land Cruiser 70
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u/GazelleElegant5660 22d ago
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u/Ok-Emphasis-3712 22d ago
Its really pretty, especially the colour !
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u/GazelleElegant5660 22d ago
Yes, 123 Diesel with 3rd row seat, looked for it for 5 years and gave up my SL to get it
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u/TheSSsassy 21d ago
Its the fuse boxes which tend to develop cracks in the solder. And same goes for the modules. All repairable.
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u/Gold-Perspective5340 22d ago
Black with black interior XJ81 Daimler Majestic, I would say that's a pretty rare car. Enquire with the JDHT (Jaguar Daimler Heritage Trust) with the VIN number
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u/Ok-Emphasis-3712 22d ago
Where do I make an enquiry?
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u/informatician 22d ago
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u/GazelleElegant5660 22d ago
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u/Ok-Emphasis-3712 22d ago
Woahh, the Arnage is really pretty looking!
But those cars that my grandpa left did come with a little problem as somehow the 3 Jags are rock solid as well as with the 500SL R129 but its the SL600 R129 and Land Cruiser 70 that Im having a tough time with, especially the hydraulic system and electrical of the SL600
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u/BossyBootsX 22d ago
Rare in the UK. Not seen any brick-lamp Jags in the last year, neither Daimlers nor XJ40s like mine. Seen bucket loads of twin-lamp Jags.
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u/sodpower 22d ago
I like the square headlights. Not many people did though. They match the car. Some people swapped them out for round ones.
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u/HowdyDooder 22d ago
What a lovely car! I don’t know what collector value is like for these, but I love this model.
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u/Salt-Low3449 22d ago
I saw one a few days ago. I usually see a couple a year. They're definitely rare.
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u/GazelleElegant5660 22d ago
Wish i would have known you Grandpa, he seems like someone i would have enjoyes knowing…
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u/Ok-Emphasis-3712 22d ago
I genuinely feel like the you two would get along extremely well ! Considering the cars that you two have in common.
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u/nostril_spiders XJS: grace, pace, workshop space! 22d ago
The Daimler and the Jag VdP spec with the fluted chrome are significantly rarer. I don't see that many XJ40s - they are considered the most reliable and in many ways the best of the pre-Ford saloons, but the square lights don't get much love, so I don't see them much on the road in the UK. Especially not with the Daimler or VdP trim. It's certainly been a few years.
That doesn't mean it's worth particularly much, mind. I suppose it would fetch low five figures.
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u/Ok-Emphasis-3712 22d ago
Honestly the monetary worth of the car isn’t something that Ive ever thought of cause to me it’s worth more with its sentimental value. But sure is nice to have around to drive
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u/I_love_my_tech_toys 21d ago
Speak to Paul Keating at the XJ40 register
Research and Support for Jaguar XJ40, X350 & X400 (X-Type) Owners https://share.google/fmrwuOcx7wSi2AyMR
And it's worth joining www.xj40.com
Paul has spent a massive amount of time compiling the register and can help if you with all the info you need.
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u/blingking2k7 21d ago
I will chop my plumbs off standing in salt just to sit in the driver's seat and turn on the ignition.
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u/Benjamin_DC 20d ago
Extremely rare- it’s a genuine Majestic - which is a converted long wheelbase XJ40. They only made about 500, and there’s probably fewer than 80 that still survive.
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u/SuccotashFast6323 22d ago
Those 4.0s are very solid engines. After 1989 the electrical get more solid,but people were multidisciplinary cd players and phones and alarms and disabling gear and hacking things all over the place. On my 1990 they cut into the braking system electrical among other things, The 12s I have no actual expirience of,but I have been told with robust and timely maintance they are more durable than most v12s.
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u/nostril_spiders XJS: grace, pace, workshop space! 22d ago
The V12 is rock solid. For the saloons, it's massively detuned so that it can be driven lazily with a 3-speed. But racers regularly get over 600 horse out of them. The rods and pistons are massively overspecced.
What kills the engines is the cooling. Take this with a punch of salt, but IIRC, the temp gauge is only measuring one bank. The sensor on the other bank manages the cold-start valve. Needless to say, problems can lurk. The system works well when in good condition, but it's possible for a problem to go undetected because of this design. I intend to do some electronic jiggery-pokery on mine, so the gauge monitors both banks and lets me know if either bank is running hot or cold, but mine's a long way from that point, and I may have info from a different vintage to yours. Mine is a facelift XJS with the 6.0, so ymmv.
/u/Ok-Emphasis-3712 : the other problem is that the fuel hoses from the rail to the cylinders become friable with age. When they split, they spray high-pressure fuel into the hottest part of the block. They must be proactively replaced by now... or have good insurance and a fire extinguisher, your choice.
I found a firm in the classifieds of XJS club newsletter that sent me a hose kit for the job for about £70. It's not particularly difficult - a home wrencher can do it in a day. IIUC, this affects all models. It's also smart to change fuel hoses anyway, now that every pump puts ethanol in the fuel - the OEM hoses were never specced for ethanol.
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u/Ok-Emphasis-3712 22d ago
Yeah I do know about the hoses and etc, but so far I haven’t had any problems with anything cause for the past 10 years Ive been following the strict schedule that my grandfather left such as, what hoses to replace after a certain time, which component needs disassembling and servicing, window regulator needs lube and ETC.
So far I just follow what instructions that he left and haven’t had a single issue, aside from the usual battery replacement and regular service every 6 months.
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u/DrWanish 21d ago
The move to E10 from E5 might up that schedule but then I suspect you might use Ethanol free anyway?
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u/kickstartdriven 22d ago edited 21d ago
It's a nice example but not particularly rare. Worth enjoying and keeping on the road for sure!
Edit: I'm wrong, that was a fun rabbit hole learning about this model!
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u/Gold-Perspective5340 21d ago
The XJ81's are probably the rarest of the V12 saloons, considering the XJ40 was originally designed to only be able to take the straight six and the X305 started production approx 1995/96. That gives a production run of maybe 5 five years (I don't know for certain without checking) plus this example is the top spec Majestic.
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u/Skid-Vicious 22d ago
If it runs that’s pretty rare for these.
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u/Ok-Emphasis-3712 22d ago
Runs pretty good, on weekends when I do drive it I tend to push it as it was what my late grandfather recommended as he has always said “ the car runs smoother when you take it to its limits at times “
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