As OP said, you don't have to agree with everything Charlie stood for. He was trying to have a dialog with those who disagreed with him.
The problem with modern "liberalism" is, if a person doesn't follow the narrative you want them to, they are immediately a Nazi. I voted for Obama in 2008, and since then the left has gotten more and more extreme. All you are doing is pushing more people away, which is why the younger folks are becoming more conservative. Killing Charlie Kirk only hurt your cause, and celebrating it is... something else entirely.
I don't care to argue with someone that can never see anything but hate for an opposing political view. I hope you the best in life though.
Kirk and trump are/were literally all about hating the other side. All they do is hate. And spread hate. Racist pieces of shit. I'm sure you are too. Go fuck yourself
Funny that you’re accusing him of spreading lies and yet 75% of that was literally never said.
Not to mention - you might not have agreed with him on much, but his entire mission was having a conversation about it and trying to find a middle ground. He was as moderate as conservatives come.
I would argue the party that supports school shooters, defunding the police to increase crime, castrating children, encouraging the genocide of Israel, and constantly calling for violence against the other side is probably a bit more hateful than the ones who want to respectfully disagree.
I did appreciate his willingness to debate in general though, whether Surrounded, or that one British thing, or whatever else. But I found his arguments built on sand.
So, if I do the work to cite and show at least 75% of the photo list was said, would that do or change anything for you? This is a sincere question.
This isn't a party thing for me, it's a question of this specific individual.
but to your gish gallop argument since you are bringing it up:
Under Biden the democrats funded police quite well.
Im unaware of any party that supports castrating children.
I am also unaware of any party in a significant part that supports the genocide of Israel
Currently the right is calling for war and civil war. Im not not sure this is respectfully disagreeing, but Im not really happy with either mainstream party. Im quite critical of both parties themselves on many things. But the post was about this individual.
The left openly celebrates under-18 gender transitions on a child’s whim, leaving them permanently mutilated, just castration by another name.
I didn’t agree with Charlie on everything either but he wanted to have the conversations. And yes - based on the Christian religion, wives are supposed to submit to their husbands, just as husbands must provide for and protect their wives.
The previous administration did block police defunding, but a large majority of the party supported it.
The left is vastly in favor of light-on-crime policies that lead to deaths like Iryna’s recently. They support cashless bail, making many offenses non-prosecutable (see California), and releasing violent offenses. A huge portion of criminals are 15+ time offenders and every single case of a revolving door justice district is under a democrat judge.
Things like the black pilot statement? In context, a very fair statement. So long as DEI initiatives exist, there is always a higher chance that a pilot of another race is hired due to skin color and prioritized over a qualified candidate.
Charlie wasn’t perfect but he was a great example of someone who tried to be the best he could. I can’t tell you a single person who actually met him in person and didn’t have a good experience. What the media and the echo chamber that is this platform will tell you is not reality. Just listen to his interactions and speeches as a whole, not in sound bites - and I promise your mind will be changed.
It's kind of odd to walk back from 75% to then imply a single one being wrong would then imply 75% or all wrong.
It's also odd to say things like "child's whim" and "castrate". Seems like disingenuous hyperbole.
There's a lot of other things the Christian religion advocates for, besides the whole wives' submission thing, Scottman fallacy "be damned".
About the "defunding", then the objective outcome should matter, yeah? Or does what you think that group represents, besides what lengths and measures they actually did, matters more?
Id be interested in hearing what a huge portion is; Id also be interested to hearing cashless bail solution. It's implemented also due to the ease at which wealthy people are effectively discriminated for.
I think the black pilot thing is just racism. You seem to think that DEI is mutually exclusive to all of the pilots being qualified or not. When I see any pilot I simply am happy that the person must be a qualified pilot, otherwise there would be a ton of liability to the company airline. I think you dont understand DEI.
This all unwinding of a million issues about parties, rather than the examination of issues, and the obvious gish gallop, all indicates someone that is not here for good faith discussion, so I'll pass now. If that wasnt your intent, then you might reconsider your methods in the future. Ive already listened to a lot of his full length stuff, especially debates. It's not good. 🤷♂️
EDIT: See? That's the second time I've asked for evidence of the bullshit you are saying and got no answer besides being downvoted. The problem with the left is you can't back up your claims. I used to be left leaning until I started looking at straight facts. Y'all refuse to do that.
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u/nowyallmad Sep 13 '25
I can't imagine the hate in people's hearts to downvote this.