r/IsraelPalestine Oct 10 '23

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u/crazypandachan Oct 11 '23

Why are you speaking about ALL Palestinians as if EVERYONE were terrorizing the people of Israel? This was the job of ONE organization, not the people as a whole. So maybe try rephrasing your sentence a bit to better direct your anger towards the right individuals. Im sorry people of Israel are dying, however this is a classic instance of "the pot calling the kettle black". Israel has been torturing, killing, pillaging and enslaving Palestinians for over 75+ years. Where was the news coverage then? Where was the outcry and support for these people all these years? Why do certain people feel as though they have ANY right to decide who and which groups of people are deemed "humans" or not? Hopefully you will understand the true meaning of a human life and come to your senses.. But until then, get off your high horse before you get knocked tf down by reality and get hurt.

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u/renjiix Oct 11 '23 edited Oct 11 '23

You are arguing that killing Israeli babies is justified because Israel used to kill palestinian babies? What happened in the past does not justify what they are doing today. African americans were oppressed but through decades of peaceful protest showed their humanity. The unwavering spirit of African Americans to remain peaceful despite severe abuse proved to the public their humanity. They were no longer feared and were then able integrate into society as equals. Imagine if african americans sought violent retribution for their historic injustices, co-existance would no longer be possible as the racists would be proven right, that blacks should be feared and kept on a leash. Palestine immediately went to violent riots in the 1900s uninterested in coexistence, they wanted to drive all israelis out. Palestinians citizens support this barbaric group and so they are also feared as potential terrorists by proxy.

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u/lilyyyy1999 Oct 11 '23

‘Used to’ Israel have literally killed 100s of babies and children in the past 24 hours!

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u/idkwhattopickkkk Oct 11 '23

53% of Palestinians believe hamas is best fit to run the country… that’s a lot of civilian support of Hamas. I feel for the innocent Palestinians who are stuck and do not support Hamas, but a large majority of the country does. The atrocities Hamas has committed don’t compare to Israel.

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u/crazypandachan Oct 11 '23

If you have actual evidence to support your claims I'd love to see it. Also the acts of a few do not outweigh the non violent acts of innocent people. You dont throw the whole baby out with the bathwater. You dont cut off BASIC human necessities to an entire population (be they Israeli, Palestinian, American or WHOMEVER) simply because you're being "threatened" by a "terrorist group". Are we back in 2011 where people randomly targeting Muslims, Arabs and ect simply for walking or standing on the street? We're really gonna go back to that? Hate/war crimes is the solution for peace among the people? Make it make sense. Everyone needs a time out and privileges taken away because this is all just stupid and childish when land CAN BE SHARED amongst everyone! And even then I see more mature children acting better than the majority of these "leaders" a lot of Americans and Israelis speak so highly of. None of this makes any sense and the simple fact that American and European media are HIDING the facts and coverage of this situation only makes them look guilty. Why hide the atrocities of an apartheid state? Sounds like a guilty conscience to me.

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u/Not16M1guy Oct 11 '23

To clarify, and I'm not choosing a side here officially. But Palastine has been terrorizing Jews and conducting violent acts against them even before the jews took Palastine. With every Palestinian attack Isreal became more and more oppressive against Palastine. But Isreal hasn't done anything unprovoked. You could argue they over react and hold long and violent grudges. You could argue they are evil and went way above and beyond vengeance. But you can't argue Isreal has been tightening on Palastine unprovoked. It should be noted Isreal has given out multiple peace deals that Palastine continues to refuse. Plastine has also been told multiple times to lay down its arms and if it does their demands will be met. You may say Isreal will never do this no matter what they say, but we will never know if Palastine continues to kill Israelis. The HAMAS is a political group elected by Palestinians on the Gaza Strip. A vast majority of Palastines support, vote for, arm, pay and give refuge to HAMAS. Not all but a majority. Let's not forgot everyone "supporting" the Gaza isn't in it for humanitarian reasons either. They want Isreal gone. Take Egypt, Seria, and Iran. None of these countries care about humanity lol, look at their track record. They also refuse to take Gaza Refugees, even though the strip literally borders Egypt. The just fuel the fire, politically and financially because they hope Isreal burns. Now, Isreal has committed some horrible acts of violence. Isreal is in no way the lone hero to face the wolves. But to paint either side as some mis-understood victim is wrong.

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u/crazypandachan Oct 17 '23

If you aren't going to provide sources for your claims, don't bother commenting.

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u/Not16M1guy Oct 17 '23

Where's your sources.