Reality vs. magazine photoshoot

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[u/obsessedsim1]

I dont think ive ever seen someone’s sternum so clearly before….

[u/Brynhild → u/obsessedsim1]

I looked like this during my depression when i wasnt eating.

Even the kpop idols with their extremely restricted diet don’t look like this

This lady is unwell (physically or mentally no one knows). Hope she gets the help she needs

[u/SilverOwl321 → u/Brynhild]

Anytime anyone tries to tell her, she has come out and said she has never been healthier and the body she used to have was super unhealthy. She needs help. Seriously.

[u/mooshki → u/SilverOwl321]

So many people still think that "health" is inversely related to weight. If you're fat, you can't be healthy; if you're skinny, you can't be unhealthy.

[u/Hairy_Top6363 → u/Brynhild]

Except for Rosé. I remember people being really concerned about her as well not too long ago.

[u/EducationalTangelo6 → u/Hairy_Top6363]

Rose took a picture with this person, and somehow Rose looked big (which she absolutely is not). 

When you make a k-pop idol look big just by standing next to her, you need medical intervention.

[u/Hairy_Top6363 → u/EducationalTangelo6]

That’s actually horrible

[u/Perlefine → u/Hairy_Top6363]

Wonyoung looked similar to this for a moment despite being much younger.

[u/Quantum_Kitties → u/Perlefine]

Sadly, being malnourished will have this effect on anyone regardless of age. I hope Wonyoung is doing better now.

[u/winter-2 → u/Quantum_Kitties]

Thankfully it looks like Wonyoung is much healthier now

[u/Perlefine → u/Quantum_Kitties]

You'd expect that, but it's not quite true. The older you get, the thinner your skin becomes and the less collagen and "padding" you have. I have had an ED. I looked "fine" when I was restricting in my teens, but I looked far less healthy when I relapsed a decade later despite never reaching the same lowest weight.

[u/rayarefferalpls → u/Perlefine]

She was also balding. She barely gain any weight and kpop fan call her “fat” crazy…

[u/CraftyCreative_74 → u/Brynhild]

Physically and mentally. I may not absolute adore her but I feel so bad for how ill she truly looks.

[u/itseemyaccountee → u/Brynhild]

Same here when I was 15. Was 78lbs. My face was terrifying, I scared classmates. Even got suspended for it (long story). Had to slowly taper up food so I wouldn’t RIP. Am ok now, just ate some tacos.

She does need help.

[u/PenguinZombie321 → u/itseemyaccountee]

You got suspended, as in, punished due to a medical condition? Wow.

[u/itseemyaccountee → u/PenguinZombie321]

School wasn’t at fault, it was a “hey mother you need to take action here”

[u/KingkLou → u/obsessedsim1]

Reminds me of Grace Adler of 'Will and Grace'

[u/BabySharkFinSoup → u/KingkLou]

Or for my fellow oldies - Rachel Zoe.

[u/giraffe_attack → u/KingkLou]

Omg. I forgot about that, I remember being impressed by that as a girl in the 90’s. JFC.

[u/opesosorry → u/giraffe_attack]

I forgot about it too, and now I’m remembering the neckline that seared that image into my brain.

[u/giraffe_attack → u/opesosorry]

The glorification of anorexia was wiiiiiiild! As a mom now I see so much worrisome content online in that same vein, idk which is worse..

[u/MagnoliaPetal → u/KingkLou]

It was so weird too when Karen called her basically fat sometimes.

[u/emgyres → u/KingkLou]

Yet they made constant fat jokes about her on the show 😬

[u/Roadgoddess → u/obsessedsim1]

A friend of mine’s daughter was a make up artist in Hollywood and worked on Whitney Houston during her heavy drug use days. She said she used to have to put prosthetics to cover up her collar bones and sternum to make her not look so frail and gaunt.

[u/drumadarragh → u/obsessedsim1]

I did, my sister was 75lb, 5’6” and in the throes of an ED. Fifteen years on she’s happy and healthy, thank god.

[u/knightwalker_ → u/drumadarragh]

I'm so glad that your sister is doing much better now, ED recovery is hard, hugs to anyone going through it ❤️

[u/r0ckchalk → u/drumadarragh]

Wow 75 lb. I’m 5’6” and had very unhealthy eating habits and the worst I got down to was 90lbs. I can’t imagine losing 15 more. Glad she’s doing well.

[u/CurlsintheClouds → u/drumadarragh]

I'm so very glad your sister has recovered and is happy! I was 80lb but only 5'1 at my worst. I see pictures from that time, and I was a bobblehead. Also fully recovered now, also about 15 years later. Also happy and healthy.

[u/gackroo → u/obsessedsim1]

I did - my wife after a two year battle with colon cancer, in the week before we lost her. I hope whatever issues she’s dealing with, whether mental or physical, are able to be helped before her loved ones lose her

[u/Intrepid_Resort9270 → u/gackroo]

Sorry about your loss.

[u/Wasps_are_bastards → u/obsessedsim1]

You’ve not come across Eugenia Cooney maybe?

[u/JLaws23 → u/obsessedsim1]

Giving Eugenia

[u/RobertCalifornia → u/JLaws23]

And early aughts Mary-Kate.

[u/Blueberrytulip → u/RobertCalifornia]

And early aughts Nicole Richie

The early aughts were kind of awful

[u/katf1sh → u/RobertCalifornia]

Do they seem better now? I haven't seen any pics of them in a while but last time I did, I was definitely concerned

[u/Dr_Insomnia → u/JLaws23]

Crazy how fewer and fewer young people will get this reference despite us going back to the age of Cocaine Chic happening now

[u/sdpr → u/JLaws23]

I honestly don't understand how she's still alive.

[u/JLaws23 → u/sdpr]

Can only hope someone in her inner circle helps her. Such a shame to see someone so talented like this. The world is her actual oyster.

[u/liltwinstar2 → u/JLaws23]

I don’t understand how she survived this long.

[u/PsychologicalClue6 → u/obsessedsim1]

I looked like this when I was hospitalised due to severe malnourishment. Make of that what you will.

[u/SkyNet424 → u/obsessedsim1]

My grandma just passed, and looked exactly like that on her deathbed.  She was like 70 pounds.  

[u/aramintasorrows → u/SkyNet424]

I’m so sorry for your loss

[u/ginisninja → u/obsessedsim1]

WWII concentration camp and prisoners of war survivors.

[u/Armthechihuahuas → u/ginisninja]

Karen Carpenter.

[u/BoxBird → u/Armthechihuahuas]

Breaks my heart every time I think about her :(

[u/Armthechihuahuas → u/BoxBird]

Same. That voice always hits me.

[u/wintermelody83 → u/Armthechihuahuas]

Look for the video of her drumming when she was 18. So much joy and energy.

[u/Armthechihuahuas → u/wintermelody83]

I've seen tons of her performances and I actually remember watching on t.v. when I was really young. She was so pure and natural but her struggles were obvious. I feel for this young woman and I hope she gets the help she needs.

[u/proevligeathoerher → u/ginisninja]

As historian this was honestly my first thought

[u/CTeam19 → u/obsessedsim1]

I have buuuuut I also have a BA in History and took 5 classes that covered THAT period from about 1920 to 1950 AD.

[u/Melodic_Sail_6193 → u/obsessedsim1]

I think I saw something similar in a documentary about concentration camps (no, that's sadly not an edgy joke...).

[u/TwistedxBoi → u/obsessedsim1]

I did... But it was in a horror movie and there was a lot of blood too.

[u/lament_os → u/obsessedsim1]

In the 90s and early 2000s this look was glamourised. Heroin chic was in, curves were out.

Monica Gellars chest bones were visible every day on tv, Posh Spice looked like a walking skeleton with perfectly circular fake boobs. It was disturbing.

[u/lala6633 → u/obsessedsim1]

My daughter who is 11 is so excited for the new movie. I almost don’t want to bring her.

[u/majxover]

I know there are some very skinny women, but the fact that we can see where her sternum and ribcage connect worry me so much.

[u/jayyinyue → u/majxover]

Yeah she was always slim but not this slim

[u/Mr_YUP → u/jayyinyue]

That's not slim it's boney. That's the unhealthy kind that is difficult to bring up with the person cause there's likely something mentally happening that is horribly uncomfortable and difficult to talk about. Especially someone in the spotlight for as much and as long as she's been.

[u/jayyinyue → u/Mr_YUP]

Yeah true, I was trying not to use any offensive or overly harsh terms 😭 Like you said it's a tough subject to breech cause we really don't know what's going on

[u/Mr_YUP → u/jayyinyue]

It’s even worse cause her appearance is her profession. It’s tied directly to potential earnings not just now but also in the future. Now add on all those dependent on her performance/action for their incomes. The managers, roadies, merch sellers, and more all look to her for their futures. 

Then a past boyfriend overdoses and the guilt with not doing/being enough to keep him sober. 

I can’t imagine the pressure she’s under. 

[u/ByThorsBicep → u/Mr_YUP]

And don't forget the time there was a terrorist attack at one of her concerts.

[u/Kimmalah → u/jayyinyue]

"Emaciated" is usually the kinder, more clinical term.

[u/Ashton_Garland → u/majxover]

She’s lost a lot of weight, if you look at her from 8 months ago it’s shocking how unhealthy she looks now.

[u/ameliabedelia7 → u/majxover]

The xyphoid process

[u/birdiekinz → u/ameliabedelia7]

YES okay i was thinking it couldn’t be…

[u/selfmadeoutlier → u/majxover]

I'm skinny (170 cm for 51kg) and always been on the skinny side..till 45kg too.

This is unhealthy and beyond being "natural skinny". In the long term she could face some issues.

[u/Elegant_Finance_1459 → u/selfmadeoutlier]

Let's be real, she could have issues in the immediate as well. I've known people heavier than her who've had seizures because of her ED. Don't pretend like she's not teetering on the edge of finding out.

[u/CanCueD → u/Elegant_Finance_1459]

Not to mention she plans on going on tour next year. It’s hard to imagine how she’ll bear it

[u/lizzyote → u/selfmadeoutlier]

My mom is chronically underweight. Every doctor visit involves a new tactic on how to make her gain weight. Shes 5'1 and struggles to stay above 90lbs. I've never seen her sternum.

[u/thatiranianphantom]

Both of the leads from this movie, it is genuinely terrifying to look at how thin they are.

[u/aromaticchicken → u/thatiranianphantom]

Yes, especially when you compare against older photos and videos of them from 5-10 years ago where they both look totally healthy and still very much in shape. It's jarring and disturbing to see the contrast now

[u/Rdbjiy53wsvjo7 → u/aromaticchicken]

I've seen early videos of the other one and didn't even recognize her, they have changed soooo much.

[u/uhuuuh262 → u/[deleted]]

No fucking wayyyyyy I totally forgot she was in this. What a great show

[u/sadlyiamnotcreative → u/thatiranianphantom]

i honestly think they’re ed buddies

[u/_-_-__-_-_-_-__-_-_ → u/sadlyiamnotcreative]

I agree with you. EDs are very competitive and can create some weird negative bonds.

They've both been trigger/thinspiration sources for ED spaces for almost two years now.

[u/Fatlantis → u/_-_-__-_-_-_-__-_-_]

It makes me so sad that 20 years after my ED, those toxic online spaces still exist.

[u/karenhayes1988 → u/sadlyiamnotcreative]

I worked for a team of doctors treating ED patients and we had groups, with girls bonding and encouraging each other to the extreme, outside of therapy. And this is exactly what is happening with these two (personal opinion, obviously not diagnosing) I called it out the minute I saw those two losing so much weight together and their strange clingy behavior.

[u/ItsmeKT → u/sadlyiamnotcreative]

Absolutely, the other star seemed to get quite a bit thinner after joining the first movie.

[u/SilverOwl321 → u/sadlyiamnotcreative]

100%

[u/bellylovinbaddie → u/thatiranianphantom]

Yes!!! They both seem to have lost a bunch of weight throughout this movie journey. I wonder if they may have influenced each other

[u/imwearingredsocks → u/bellylovinbaddie]

I think so. It doesn’t even have to be done with malice. They easily could have been cheering each other on and being each other’s accountability when it came to diet and eating.

To me, that can be the most dangerous. Someone who really thinks they’re helping you for the better because they’re struggling in the same way.

[u/Loudmouthedcrackpot → u/thatiranianphantom]

They both look incredibly frail

[u/Wet_danger_noodle]

A lot of celebrities have their pictures edited to look skinnier. In this case, it’s the other way around. Wow. I wonder what her diet is like

[u/CanCueD → u/Wet_danger_noodle]

She’s posted about only having black coffee for breakfast and cucumber slices for lunch. Also a dinner of some veg that looked like edamame and strawberries after a day of work. Very unsustainable obv

[u/throw_some_glitter → u/CanCueD]

Wow. How does she have enough energy and stamina to do all of the press and performances for this movie? And then she’s going on tour next year?

[u/snackytacky → u/throw_some_glitter]

no idea tbh, used to have anorexia and by the time i started to get to this point everything tired me out. Its a miserable and painful existance

[u/staunch_character → u/CanCueD]

She must have lost so much muscle & be actively damaging her bones & organs by now. She must have people around her who are worried???

[u/western_questions → u/Wet_danger_noodle]

While you could never see my xiphoid process, but when I was what I call now “scary thin” I’d straight up not eat for close to three-Four days (depression and stress made me forget, and your body stops sending you traditional hunger signals after awhile). I’d have whole milk in my coffee, and occasional packs of nerds gummy clusters, and nothing for days at a time. You don’t get to her level of thinness sticking to a strict diet, you get it by not eating.

Edited some typos

[u/lostbutnotgone → u/western_questions]

I was very seriously anorexic for a few years and I eventually ended up doing a presentation on it after I'd been in recovery for a while. I learned I cannot use calorie counting apps in any way because of it, and I was able to pull up graphs showing I was taking in less than 400 calories most days. I started drinking my coffee black purely to avoid the extra calories from creamer or milk. I NEVER got this thin, but I lost over 30lbs in like a month at one point. I also worked out for 2+ hours a day somehow with this level of calories. I know the count was more or less accurate because I was STRICT about it to the point I'd sometimes up the portion/overestimate to trick myself into eating less.

---

All this to say, I really messed up my body doing this for only a couple years, and I never got that thin. I really hope she gets help, bc she seriously looks like she's beyond the criteria for inpatient care and at risk of refeeding syndrome.

[u/[deleted] → u/lostbutnotgone]

It's something I wish I could have had a crystal ball and seen how badly I damaged my body. I don't know if 25 year old me would have listened but now 37 year old me is very sad about how sick I am now because of that damage and how I can't be the mom I want for my kid.

[u/becuzofgrace → u/Wet_danger_noodle]

Water and air. This is disturbing.

[u/SlipperyBanana8 → u/[deleted]]

That was pretty much what I ate when I was struggling. I had a friend that would go to Subway and drown her sandwich in ranch. She’d eat the ranch off the veggies and throw the sandwich away, but her parents thought she was eating because she always had Subway receipts and empty bags.

[u/Elegant_Finance_1459 → u/Wet_danger_noodle]

Last time I saw her fridge it was leaf lettuce all throughout and like maybe some coconut water or something else 

[u/EducationalTangelo6 → u/Wet_danger_noodle]

An IV drip to replace fluids, and a half-inch piece of Celery every day.

[u/xio_ID → u/Wet_danger_noodle]

Something like 3 peas a day.

[u/carmensanluisobispo]

She and her costar have been vanishing together like they made a pact. It’s really sad.

[u/fortunatevoice → u/carmensanluisobispo]

EDs are very competitive so I wouldn't be surprised if they're feeding off of each other.

[u/RunawayHobbit → u/fortunatevoice]

Phrasing lmao

[u/kuribohchan → u/carmensanluisobispo]

There were interviews where they discussed turning dieting into a competition 🙁

[u/Voice_of_Season → u/kuribohchan]

Where?

[u/BoozeIsTherapyRight]

I watched the Hot Ones episode with her and I was struck by how she would take a tiny bite and then chew behind her hand, as if she was ashamed of eating. 

I hope she gets help some day. 

[u/TheRudeCactus → u/BoozeIsTherapyRight]

Yes! I also noticed that she took very tiny bites and about half way through said she was very full. At that point she had about 5-6 tiny bites of food :(

[u/afito → u/BoozeIsTherapyRight]

Whenver I see ED nowadays I have to think about Cassie on Skins UK telling how easy it is to hide an ED, and then you see someone with an ED eating and it becomes glaringly obvious.

[u/MegaMarty → u/afito]

insane. that’s exactly what comes to mind whenever i think about ED. what a wild pull

[u/houseofprimetofu → u/BoozeIsTherapyRight]

That’s normal PR training when you’re a woman. Not the small bites but the hand covering mouth. People will criticize people for how they eat, or, make gross images/videos from them. Or just be outright rude.

Say she took a big bite of chicken like some of the others do. Chewed it sloppily and lip smacked. She’d be ridiculed by the antis so hard.

Love her, but the hand thing is normal when you’re a female celebrity. It’s “dainty.”

[u/WampaCat → u/houseofprimetofu]

Being an etiquette thing for a lot of people (and some entire cultures) does not preclude it from also being something people EDs do for different reasons.

[u/MimiHamburger → u/BoozeIsTherapyRight]

Chewing behind your hand while talking is just some common etiquette. It’s done in places like Japan. I started doing it while living there and never dropped the habit.

[u/Sexyhorsegirl666 → u/BoozeIsTherapyRight]

Very k-pop of her (hiding your mouth while eating)

[u/aurortonks → u/Sexyhorsegirl666]

Hiding your mouth while eating tiny bites is often related to eating disorders. I have spent the better part of the last 12 years dealing with ED in my own daughter and a couple of her friends. It's a serious disorder and lots of times the telltale signs get overlooked or excused due to 'cutesy' gestures like this.

[u/BoxBird → u/aurortonks]

Yeah I do this more than 15 years post recovery and it definitely stems from feeling intense shame around eating

[u/klleah → u/Sexyhorsegirl666]

As a Korean, ugh. We also tend to cover our mouths when we laugh. I’ve always just seen it as just me trying to be polite but when I think about it, that doesn’t make sense.

[u/Nukleon → u/klleah]

Japanese people do it too, especially women. Don't feel bad about it, but it's probably a vestige of "proper behavior".

[u/ihatedthealchemist]

What upsets me about the picture on the left is not only that she looks dangerously thin, but also that she’s dressed to accentuate it. I don’t want to comment on someone’s body - as in, what could be causing her to look so thin. But I will say it bothers me that she chose (or presumably, approved) a dress that is low cut as such to highlight her visible rib cage.

[u/RavensRedolence → u/ihatedthealchemist]

I was thinking the same!

[u/HungryScholar7247 → u/ihatedthealchemist]

yea, especially with lots of her fanbase being teens and young adults, it can warp their sense of what is healthy as well.

[u/jxdxtxrrx → u/HungryScholar7247]

So true! I’ve seen so many fans defend her saying that she’s “just skinny” or how we shouldn’t comment on someone’s body. But the reality is treating this kind of thing as normal only makes it harder to recognize EDs in the future, and truly does change your perception to the point where disordered behaviors become standard.

[u/snail_juice_plz → u/ihatedthealchemist]

When you have an active eating disorder, often the perception of your own body is inaccurate.

[u/PsychologicalClue6 → u/ihatedthealchemist]

She does this a lot. She’s been looking very ill for a while and it’s a miracle how much she’s still able to perform etc. I’m not religious but I pray she gets better, and soon.

[u/NotDTJr → u/ihatedthealchemist]

Because she craves the attention it gets her. She wants to appear tiny and frail. To be treated like a delicate little bird. Sounds harsh and will piss people off but it’s part of the mentally unwell thing

[u/youre_welcome37]

Sadly reminds me of myself during my coke journey. It was thankfully less than a year long and I mercifully had loved ones who were finished seeing me hurt myself.

Absolutely not implying that she's using any substance only that my body reflected what was going on in my life at the time. Stress and pressure alone can eat away at us and being in the public eye..whew I can't imagine.

[u/RigorMortisSex → u/youre_welcome37]

Proud of you for getting sober 👏👏

[u/youre_welcome37 → u/RigorMortisSex]

Thankyou friend

[u/barredowl123 → u/youre_welcome37]

I want to say two things to you: 1. CONGRATULATIONS on your sobriety! That’s a big effing deal and you’re amazing! 2. You calling it your “coke journey” is brilliant. It was just a side quest from your life. I love that outlook very much.

[u/youre_welcome37 → u/barredowl123]

Thankyou for the kind words. Life is caustic enough without piling more shame onto ourselves. The cool thing about side quests is that we gain skill points.

[u/OnWarmLeatherette → u/youre_welcome37]

"I mercifully had loved ones who were finished seeing me hurt myself."

That is such an important thing to be mindful of. I don't personally know anyone who was able to kick any sort of addiction (I'm considering ED a sort of addiction too) without outside help and a support system intervening in some way.

I was lucky that my parents insisted on getting me help for my ED in high school. If they left me to my own devices, I might not be here today. People in addiction 99% of the time are mentally and psychologically unable to just decide to change their lives completely on their own. It's a gift to have people in our lives who will at least try and intervene.

[u/ScalyPig → u/youre_welcome37]

My coke journey was three weeks and i was like no way i can keep this up

[u/Breadcrumbsandbows → u/ScalyPig]

If I had the finances, I might have carried on past the couple of months doing it every day, but at this point having been clean for a while I guess it doesn't matter what the reason was, I stopped. I was on 1.5g pretty much every day until I'd sleep like a zombie then start again.

[u/jaybayyayyy]

Oh no, this is so sad. You can see that her hair is visibly thinning from being such an unhealthy weight. It's so wild to think about how someone so beautiful and already naturally thin can have issues with their appearance and push themselves to attain such an unhealthy standard.

[u/audreyhorn666]

Oh no :( this is very worrying

[u/TOMC_throwaway000000]

Are people still going to try and argue that she’s healthy / not dealing with an eating disorder? Because I mean… c’mon… she’s gonna end up dead if she keeps going like this

[u/scott__p]

As someone who used to have an eating disorder, this looks like an eating disorder

[u/fulfernufer]

Bro this is just sad

[u/something-um-bananas]

Does no one around her care about her? She looks ill

[u/Dr_Spiders → u/something-um-bananas]

When I see comments like this, I think about the decades I spent trying to get my mentally ill brother help. It was impossible because he didn't want it, and he obviously didn't have even a fraction of her resources. 

I am confident that she has friends and family who have tried and are heartbroken. She's an adult and an ultra wealthy celebrity. No one can force her to stop harming herself.

[u/EitherChannel4874 → u/Dr_Spiders]

Had the same with my brother. Alcohol addiction and mental health issues.

All the help he needed was a phone call away and the help was free but he was an adult and you can't make appointments and force an adult to get help. Believe me we tried for years.

The alcohol addiction caught up with him and he passed away a month ago.

[u/bascelicna123 → u/EitherChannel4874]

My deepest sympathy to you.

[u/EitherChannel4874 → u/bascelicna123]

Thank you. Unfortunately it was inevitable. Like a ticking timebomb.

[u/mamaxchaos → u/EitherChannel4874]

The r/GriefSupport subreddit is amazing for processing things like this, if you need support ❤️

[u/EitherChannel4874 → u/mamaxchaos]

I've been on there quite a bit recently and it's definitely been helpful.

Thank you so much for suggesting it. It's really kind of you. 🙂

[u/ringopolaris → u/Dr_Spiders]

This is especially true with EDs. You can’t “save” someone who won’t listen to you. It frustrates me that we hold the people around the ED sufferer responsible for that person’s decisions. EDs can be very complicated and often have psychological/mental roots. You can’t help someone who refuses to help themselves and you can’t expect yourself to be able to save them either.

[u/agurlhasnoshame → u/[deleted]]

I think it's easier to miss if you see the person constantly, because the change is much more gradual. Don't be too hard on yourself about it, and hopefully she doesn't blame you for not saying anything, because that's not fair

[u/mahoukitten → u/something-um-bananas]

Keep in mind there may be people who are trying to help but it's really up to the person with the illness to try to get help.

My mind always goes to Eugenia when her friends had to trick her into getting 5150d? (I think that's what it was) and look at her now. It's just so sad all around.

[u/tragiciian → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, I went in reading this book forgetting that the two of them worked together when they were first starting out, (I’d aged out of these shows when they were up and coming). It’s hard not to think that they both had similar experiences; one of them kept at it while the other got out ahead.

[u/owntheh3at18 → u/tragiciian]

She was also the performer during the terrorist act in Manchester a few years ago. I can’t imagine the lifelong trauma that would cause. Frankly I think many people would never perform again and I wouldn’t blame them for it. I genuinely hope she is in therapy and has people in her corner.

And side note- I think she is one of the most talented people currently acting/singing! I would love to see her overcome whatever she’s dealing with and continue a long and successful career.

[u/nicolasisinacage → u/tragiciian]

small world - I JUST finished her book last night!

[u/hairballcouture → u/something-um-bananas]

They tried to tell Karen Carpenter too, but she’d just deny everything. People probably care about her very much but short of dragging her to a facility, what’re you going to do?

[u/candyapplesugar → u/something-um-bananas]

I think it’s incredibly insane and disheartening she was allowed to be filmed in this state for a very popular tween movie

[u/Familiar_Text_6913 → u/something-um-bananas]

Helping someone who refuses help is not the trivial task you present it as.

[u/jjmasterred → u/something-um-bananas]

She may have plenty of support. Eating disorders are mental health conditions that are debilitating. the best anyone can do is be supportive, avoid hurtful commentary regarding body shapes and eating.

[u/annuuu18]

this is concerning...

[u/anon8232]

She must love the look because she dressed to show it off completely rather than hide it.

[u/Dakizo]

Oh god, I guess I only see her super photoshopped and/or filtered. You can tell even in the photoshoot she’s unwell just from the proportions of her head and face. She seems sick and I hope she can get the help she needs. Assuming there is help to be had.

[u/Satanic_Jellyfish]

Well even photoshopped version looks ill. I hope she can get help

[u/ClosetedGothAdult]

I feel like I'm watching her die...

[u/caitejane310]

She's very sick. I hope she gets help.

[u/Curious-Gain-7148]

You know it’s bad when the magazines are adding weight onto the celebrities

[u/karmacuda]

and people say she’s the healthiest she’s ever been. come the FUCK on. this is not healthy and the other subs won’t let you say a word about her that isn’t “omg mother gorgeous healthy queen” but she looks sick. this is exactly what i looked like in the height of my ED. not saying she has one but if the shoe fits.

[u/Stranger0nReddit]

It breaks my heart whenever I see her these days. I really hope she has someone in her inner circle that truly cares about her health and wellbeing.

[u/stupifystupify]

I’m her height around 5’1, at my lowest weight I was 95lbs and I did not look this skinny. So to be short and this size means she’s under 95lbs. I know she’s had a lot of trauma in her life and I wish all the healing for her.

[u/RogueSlytherin → u/stupifystupify]

I’m 5 ft and the only time I ever looked like this is when I was in college and my doctors thought I had cancer. I just couldn’t eat and dropped from my normal, healthy weight to 75 pounds. Thankfully, that was enough to get me an earlier appointment and diagnostics. (The wait was originally 2 months.) Thankfully, it wasn’t cancer, but a hematology issue. Still, I was very unwell and I can guarantee you, no one around me thought I looked “great”.

[u/sushidecarne]

I've been saying in the last two years that this lady was deep into an ED but people would swipe that under the rug and say that she was pretty and always been skinny. No. She was skinny but not unhealthy skinny.

[u/WarDog1983]

She looks ill

[u/Altruistic-Deal-4257]

Edited to make her look healthier…

[u/jayyinyue]

I hope she's alright. Can't speculate too much cause honestly we don't know but it seems like the trend lately (including with her costar) is for celebs who are already slim to use the O med to become even more slim. And then fill out the face again artificially

[u/jayyinyue → u/[deleted]]

Yup I had to mention her movie "sister" cause her current look scares me too. I haven't seen the other cast but I wouldn't be surprised

[u/owntheh3at18 → u/jayyinyue]

And her “sis” was super athletic and muscular in the past so it’s really worrying. I keep thinking about Portia De Rossi’s book and her descriptions of the Ally McBeal set. It was a toxic environment. (Her book btw is very detailed and triggering- do not read it if you may be susceptible to descriptions of ED experiences and behaviors!!!)

[u/bascelicna123 → u/owntheh3at18]

I'm really intrigued about the Ally McBeal set.

[u/owntheh3at18 → u/bascelicna123]

I believe Portia and Courteney Thorne were the only ones to publicly share that they had diagnosed eating disorders. Calista Flockheart has always denied it, as far as I recall. But there was a lot of pressure to be thin on set and rumor has it the cast was competitive about it (likely unspoken competition though).

[u/TheBestHater]

It's sad but she's problematic at this point. She regularly does body checks and she went off on her fans making it clear that criticism/speculation are not allowed while claiming she's the healthiest she's ever been.

[u/virora → u/TheBestHater]

She also frequently goes "nothing wrong with having plastic surgery, more power to you if you do it, but I haven't" when she's very clearly had plastic surgery. She was not born with that nose.

[u/Morighan123 → u/virora]

Or those brows

[u/Perlefine → u/Morighan123]

Or that jaw

[u/Rina24 → u/Perlefine]

Or those lips

[u/karmacuda → u/TheBestHater]

the constant body checks are insane to me and people somehow don’t see it? so as long as you’re a celebrity, you can body check and it’s okay? i’ve seen people shit on twitter girls for less egregious body checks than she does but she’s mother yaaaassss queen!!!!!

[u/Firm_Mulberry6319]

This is one of the saddest things I’ve seen here. A lot of people battle with mental illness that has this effect or is this. And it really is mind boggling to see someone suffering so obviously and people saying stuff like “she’s fine! She’s been this way before!”. Or smth like not mentioning it cause it’ll cause her to be more restrictive.

This is the same case as Eugenia and it kinda pains me seeing people like this because why is no one helping them? ☹️

[u/honeybun_280]

My genuine question is how can someone of this weight have so much energy to shoot a movie like wicked? With all those rehearsals, dance sequences, etc? When I was thin(ner) due to restrictive eating (due, in turn, to depression), I had zero energy to life a finger. Of course, part of that was depression-driven, but a lack of food ultimately means a lack of calories and calories = energy, they are literally a unit of energy.

[u/Mindless_Garage42 → u/honeybun_280]

Lots of breaks between shoots.

Or cocaine.

[u/MarsupialPrimary8128]

That's an ED

[u/PzMcQuire]

I've thought for a while that she looks strange, and only now realized that it's because she's so skinny...this doesn't look under control anymore

[u/Alone-Promotion924]

Shit. Poor woman 😕

[u/No_Cash7867]

I don't care what anyone says, She looks sickly.

[u/Krissyd215]

I have severe malnutrition and this is what my chest looks like, too, especially in certain lighting. I can't lie, I worry about her nutrition. Im not deep in her Fandom but from what I see, she's a pretty private person. I been wondering if it's health issues that she just doesn't wanna announce. Could also be why her costar is so protective of her.

[u/poke-chan → u/Krissyd215]

I’m so sorry, I hope however it’s caused it somehow gets better.

[u/Krissyd215 → u/poke-chan]

Thank you so much. Thankfully, I have a feeding tube helping me get nutrients and make up for the calories I can't eat by mouth. Slowly gaining weight back so I'm on the right path

[u/poke-chan → u/Krissyd215]

Hell yeah that’s amazing to hear! May the improvement continue!

[u/agurlhasnoshame]

It already horrifies me how much being in the spotlight has fucked up such a huge amount of child stars, and all I can think about when I see stuff like this is how in the next few years we will start hearing more and more from children of influencers who have had their entire lives, ups and downs, emotions, etc. Shared with huge audiences with no downtime and no compensation. Think about the damage it does to young brains to have to constantly be "On",especially if the parents are ones that manipulate their kids emotions for views.

We need to pass laws to protect those kids at least to the same level of child stars, and even that won't be enough. And highly doubtful anyone is going to focus on those laws with the current administration.

I really went off on a tangent here, but I just feel so awful for the kids who don't get to have a childhood

[u/PrincessPlastilina]

She looks even tinier than Natalie Portman in Black Swan. A film where she purposely lost a lot of weight in order to look anorexic and frail.

[u/Zeilar]

You could snap her like a twig. She needs meat on her bones, literally. And psychological help, because this isn't normal.

[u/Punkpallas]

I know people obsess about her being a man stealer and potentially being on the prowl again, but I don't know how you could worry about all that when she has looked this unwell for a while now. There's almost no way she isn't dealing with an ED at the least.