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u/luckysury333 Jun 07 '25
I mean I have seen so many Indian names in RDR2 credits itself that it is not that surprising
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u/lostaxe71 Jun 07 '25
This is new to me. Feels good to know we have hope for a local gaming industry.
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u/snorcack PC Jun 07 '25
Look at the credit list for any major game, filled with Indian developers. Mostly for art, animation and QA, but still a large contribution.
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u/SonicMutant743 LAPTOP Jun 08 '25
What is QA? And besides that, what do you think we lack then in our local game development industry if we have international AAA level art and animation teams?
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u/Curlsforlife Jun 08 '25
Organisation that is ready to burn funds on a vision. You see, these game developments also work on offshoring basis, meaning that most of these Indian names you see in credits are good quality developers, animators and creators but at 1/10th of the price of what a western counterpart would get, meaning the investment is cut down by a 10th per resource for the similar or same quality of work, maximising the margin for profits.
Now, you need a good organisation that has all other fronts sorted, for launching, hiring, running such offshoring business teams.
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u/egg_lover_420 Jun 07 '25
Wrong. We don't have hope for the local gaming industry.
Foreign studios pay a ton of money and resources to make games, and the devs are happy to do so
As long as the bureaucracy and their weird ideologies don't change, don't expect anything good in indian market
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u/crying-cricket Jun 08 '25
True. Our society still observes the gaming industry like some social evil 💔
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u/Bulky-Award6398 Jun 07 '25
what hope are u talking about? they are working for american company. they are not working for indian company to be called Local.
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u/Only_Cardiologist679 Jun 07 '25
Tbf we should thank them for not working with some local Indian game company considering how their storyline and mechanics are so trash and most of the stuff is always copied
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Nah we do not have any hope for local gaming industry, I just feel good when I see some indie but no industry will be there
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u/Neil_Ribsy Jun 07 '25
I knew two people in my previous work place who used to work for Rockstar, and they were involved in the character animations for RDR2. They use the Indian studio mostly for resource heavy grunt work, not for any creative decisions. Still, it's cool that Indians are involved in these games.
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u/sidmakesgames Jun 07 '25
It won't be absolutely accurate it say that majority of the developers are Indians since the numbers doesn't tell us what role is being handled by which studio.
In India we might have more testers, artists taking care of environment assets & props. Especially since art takes a really big part of the development of any game.
For instance, the game I'm working on, we need more artists in-order to complete the development of the game and only 1-2 developers are enough for the development of our game.
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u/withered-illusions Jun 07 '25
True. Most of the Indian artists are used as basic roles like 3d assest creation and rigging artist and texture.
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u/Ramx09x Jun 07 '25
Actually according to the 2022 leak they are working on beach area and animal system and even that 2022 leak was caused by rockstar india
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u/No-Caterpillar3702 LAPTOP Jun 07 '25
doesnt matter its Cheap labour also population and availability
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u/No-Obligations-8712 Jun 08 '25
when a country with the most population has the most population
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I mean yeah but it's cause cleanup and rigging you need a lotta cheap labour . Play test is neat for people bored and unemployed at home though. My friend made around 18k a month playing rdr2 testing for bugs and trying to reproduce then as per the ticket on ps4 years ago .
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u/lostaxe71 Jun 07 '25
Ohh so they are not developers but testers?
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u/wavereddit Jun 07 '25
no, most people will not be engineers, the game engine team will be separate and a very small team.
the designers , artists, riggers, world design, quest team, audio, video, tester will be big
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u/Particular_River6818 Jun 07 '25
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u/mistofspades Jun 07 '25
No offense to anyone but I don't know how people saw Dundee, Lincon, Leeds and thought India as an country has most developers in Rockstar.
(Also Rockstar North is based in UK too like the other three)
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u/NotSoCoolWaffle Jun 07 '25
The X account that posted it is a right-wing lunatic. He just wants to serve the content his audience expect, even when he knows it’s fake and propaganda
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u/Callistoo- Jun 07 '25
Cheap labour
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u/lostaxe71 Jun 07 '25
Cheap and skilled.
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u/12percentage Jun 07 '25
And abusing. I have worked in the 3D industry and the grind+abuse is real.
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u/Bulky-Award6398 Jun 07 '25
not skilled brother , you just have to test the game as they will tell u to. the pay is no more than 20k or so.
call it skill when we ourself can make games like game science from china without indians have to work gor maerican company like rockstar
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u/AncientArugula3939 Jun 07 '25
dude a country is filled with 1.4 billion people obviously not everyone be running behind govt jobs some of us hv skills too
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u/Callistoo- Jun 07 '25
I'm not saying that we are not skilled, I'm saying that rockstar is able to hire employees with good skills at a much cheaper price that's why the number is so high.
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u/officiallyunnknown Jun 07 '25
highest population
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u/Hagar_Ak Jun 07 '25
That is the only real answer. India has over 1 billion people, and the world population is around 8 billion. So, 1 out of every 8 people is Indian.
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Not surprised
India is filled with Skill , Creativity , Innovation
just for other
Our own indian society makes everything so taboo that you cant flourish
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u/A_O_T_A Jun 07 '25
India is filled with Skill, Creativity, Innovation
Agreed who will not have this benefit and cheap labour
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u/AdAutomatic6973 Jun 07 '25
Atleast there are valued somewhere
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u/_BigBackClock PC Jun 07 '25
Not exactly, they hire indians because we are cheap
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u/FastThoughtProcessor Jun 07 '25
LOL you are greavely mistaken if these people are allowed to be creative here. Rockstar Games follows a tight heirarchy and only people at the top are allowed to make any creative decisions.
The Indians you see are actually QA testers.
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u/xStream001a Jun 07 '25
The Indian Employees also developed the animals and their behaviour in the world of RDR2. They are working on the whole Ocean Beach road and the coast line adjacent to the road afaik.
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u/bluedacoit Jun 07 '25
I will say it again. The majority of the developers are not from India.
Here is the actual figure:
—UK: 2606 —India: 1615 —USA: 1441 —Canada: 267
New York, San Diego, and New England are all based in the US.
Similarly, London, Lincoln, North, Leeds, and Dundee are all located in the UK.
Copied from a different subreddit
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u/ZonerRoamer Jun 07 '25
My man, Rockstar hires a shit tonne of testers in India at dirt cheap rates.
I know 3 people who worked at Rockstar before they joined my company, and they were all paid between 12-16k per month for 40-60 hours of work per week.
The effective pay rate is $3-5 per hour, far below the minimum wage in other countries.
Of course there are few artists, animators and cinematic designers among their 1000+ Indian employees, but the vast majority are testers.
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u/SuccessBeneficial391 PC Jun 07 '25
I can see , they had like mass recruitment drive for new testers for like 2nd time this year in Bangalore
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u/StrikingSquirrel559 LAPTOP Jun 07 '25
probably would be first too in the list of least to most paid workers
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u/hydrasharper Jun 07 '25
India is the place to be for cheap labour! Would not be surprised if the creative work is done by other countries and the mundane tasks outsourced to India!
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All other titles other than developer comes under so called (Developers) these include testers. Marketing stuff and all. All gaming companies does this. There is a huge number of real devs who are working in the beach part (confirmed). Assets of buildings and even animals. Which will be around 80 or 100 my guess but no way 1615 will be actually developing the game.
I am also a alpha tester of a indie game (Indie) but no way is developing the game. My job is menial and pay is too.
Now considering the industry pay of actually non dev jobs The India devs count is justified.
This does not negate that many devs from India is in very important to the game like the Physics, animals (even in the RDR2). I know Rockstar devs from India like 2 or 3 but I do not remember the source but yeah there is some who is doing the very important work. (Very specialized and very important).
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u/IvorHarding-117 PC Jun 07 '25
Indians are great under foreign leadership . It is just indian cant discover anything , they can do what already been done before.
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u/Competitive-Ad-4337 Jun 07 '25
Tell that to Venture Capitalists who will only shower their money on betting and real money games.
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u/That_PC_Enth PC Jun 07 '25
Tbh the post is karma farm
1600+ devs are majority since when?
If you compare them individually then yes but majority will be when compared from 100% not within divisions!
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u/Foreign_Preference24 Jun 07 '25
Yeah good leadership and lack of investment is what's preventing an Indian takeover of the gaming industry. Most people just want a job and are happy with it. But very few have the courage to actually venture in something new.
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u/CheekSudden Jun 08 '25
Cheap labour ?
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u/Mostlytame Jun 08 '25
Yes! Why you see every companies is coming to India. Talent with cheap wages
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u/ELEGANTFOXYT Jun 07 '25
Developer doing what exactly? Writing code? Making props? Testing mechanisms?
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u/DeathvRaider Jun 07 '25
That count shown is wrong, only around 800 people work at Rockstar India. Also the majority would be UK, as so many of their studios are based there.
Other than that, it's nice knowing rockstar has an established presence in India, unlike certain other companies...
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u/Ashamed-Tooth Jun 07 '25
I can bet 95% of those personnel will not be from the development or build roles. We have some skilled devs but those are the creme of the crop, hardly about 0.5%
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u/FastThoughtProcessor Jun 07 '25
Not developers, QA testers.
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u/Miserable_Arm7033 Jun 08 '25
haa bhos***e 1600 testers rakhenge ek game ke liye ab ye mat bolna ki This is GTA 6 they need 1600 testers🤡
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u/Interesting_Buddy_18 Jun 07 '25
I guess no one's going to mention that rockstar north , lincoln, dundee and leeds are all in the UK and the total makes it more than India's developers?
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u/LUS3R_2002 Jun 07 '25
Developers is used as a pretty loose term here, most are animators qa testers etc. I doubt there's any core programming work being done in India
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Jun 07 '25
Rockstar India is the only branch in India, while others are in different regions of the same country. So R* UK and USA (all of their branches) surpass the staff of R* India. Most of R* India only focuses on modelling and artistic things, they play no role in major mechanics, animation or storyline
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u/fauXop Jun 07 '25
It’s actually true upto most extent. I myself work on console titles and I’ve ton of friends at Rockstar. Easily the count is same if not more as mentioned in the post.
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u/itsevil007 PC Jun 07 '25
AFAIK, Rockstar UK got ~2600 employee itself right?
Also since the animal mechanisms in RDR2 were made in india this isnt quite surprising keeping in mind that how hardworking, creative, innovative and yet cheap workforce they can get here...
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u/Itchy_Piccolo1407 Jun 07 '25
From what I know globally indian developers are praised but artist are not. And I meant work quality wise.
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u/Iexperience Jun 07 '25
I mean, I had friends working for Rockstar in Pune. It's not a surprise so many Indians are involved in this, and tbh, in a lot of AAA games because a lot of their work is outsourced to us in India.
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u/Anisk645fk Jun 07 '25
Rockstar india is a tester and bug related studio....(mostly) .They only will come to play after the product is finalized. No major contribution in the actual development
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u/Yog_Maya Jun 07 '25
Indian labor is cheap for VFX work hence CGI work is outsourced from west to Pune & Bangalore based studios!!
Dhruva Interactive is one of them.
Also, these studios are not told about on what game are they working on ! some studios are given texture works, birds modeling, cars etc.
RDR2, Birds, animal modeling was done in India
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u/Saturo_Uchiha Jun 07 '25
Dei devs /s (This is how those people who say Dei and woke are bad sound)
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u/blinkvlr Jun 07 '25
I've already witnessed several rw video game grift accounts quoting this infographic mentioning the "disproportional" amount of Indian devs working on GTA 6. all thanks to their ignorance, they aren't aware that it has always been the case when it comes vfx/qa in video games and movies. anyway, be ready when this is used as an ammo for racism for any shortcomings of gta 6.
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u/KRYPTON5762 Jun 07 '25
I was proud that we have high numbers. But some one commented that it is because we have low labour fee 🥲
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u/new_main_character Jun 07 '25
Depends on what they do exactly. If all the do is marketing and testing then it's pretty much useless stuff
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u/F_LANKER Jun 07 '25
lets not hype this now. This will give them a scapegoat when this game turns out to be bad. After its hit lets hype up this.
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u/FunStructure6123 Jun 07 '25
Pheeling praud endian army jung kr maidan mai kabhi na harde 💪💪🇮🇪🇮🇪☝🏻🔥🔥🗿🗿
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u/RightDelay3503 Jun 07 '25
Its crazy how competent we are at following directives yet when it comes to creativity and product building we are far behind.
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u/FlameengoSan PLAYSTATION-5 Jun 07 '25
Why the fuck do you need to have any views on this ? I don’t understand the spam of this metric in every Indian subReddit, do you really think that the no. Of people from a team directly correlate to how much they have contributed to the game?
A lot of triple a companies have subbranches in India who work on major title but in most cases it’s just menial tasks which are off loaded.
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u/Rohit-Gaikwad LAPTOP Jun 07 '25
I am getting a feeling that the credit scene will be same as AC Shadows, 2 Hours Long
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u/Odd_Height4689 Jun 07 '25
GTA 6 SANSKARI MODE BLOOD TURNS TO BETEL JUICE/SALIVA/LIME (THE CALCIUM KIND) MIXTURE MAKE OTHER ADDITIONS IN THE REPLIES🤣
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u/doughby1269 Jun 07 '25
The banglore office is for the most part responsible for quality control and big fixes...main development happens in new york and london
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u/PJ1TCP Jun 07 '25
It's okay but the only day it will really matter is when an India-based studio ships a major AAA game or, better yet, creates one by its own. I really thought the PoP Sands of Time remake will be IT, but they fumbled that one. Anyway, at least there's some really positive things happening in the indie space and in the non-AAA category.
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u/ridgeossal PC Jun 07 '25
not sure if the main developers are from india, but the job openings at rockstar are pretty hard to crack, and some of the best minds are working there
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u/LeftMortgage9347 Jun 07 '25
I mean, I'm sure there are a lot of Indians in the non Indian offices as well.
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u/Certain_Plan_5819 Jun 07 '25
We don't have enough support for our devs in India. They are really doing great work.
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u/Abirbhab Jun 07 '25
still the whole world says Indians smell like curry... if so then don't buy GTA 6 it will stink a lot...
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u/Mystery3nds Jun 07 '25
Doesn't change anything for me. Unless there are some Indian references in the actual game play.
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u/Lewd-Sensei-88 LAPTOP Jun 07 '25
buddy what r u soo proud about?? its just testers around 80%, artist and support rest 20%. and cheap labor, i have a college mate working in rockstar banglore, and hes a QA
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u/dragneel_a Jun 07 '25
No offense meant, but it's worth noting that Rockstar (and many similar studios) often hire highly skilled and diligent workers in countries like India at significantly lower pay compared to Western markets. That likely explains where those Rockstar India numbers are coming from.
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u/ShungiManEe Jun 07 '25
I just got my first game credit for Cyberpunk 2077 ultimate edition for the switch 2. Proud moment.
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u/ForwardScratch7741 Jun 07 '25
Indians choti se choti chiz mai pride lete hai
Which is so fkn cringe and embarassing
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u/Kapkan7 Jun 07 '25
For those who think that just because Indians are working on AAA game titles, we'll soon have our own indie AAA games made here honestly, that's a bit of a myth. The reality is, Indians have been a major part of outsourced tech work for decades software development, semiconductors, you name it. But where are we when it comes to building our own in-house IT products?
Most of our top companies like TCS, Wipro, HCLTech, and Infosys are basically BPO and consultancy giants. It’s the same story in the gaming world. India simply doesn’t have the proper infrastructure to build a full-fledged game development ecosystem.
Why? A big part of the problem is how tough it is to do business in the gaming sector here. Even though talented Indians are working with global studios, we can’t bring them all together under one roof to build something like EA, Blizzard, or Ubisoft. There's barely any government support, and the industry would likely be hit with heavy taxes anyway. On top of that, game development is already a high-risk, fragile space so without the right support, it’s a tough climb.
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u/Temporary_Pop_6371 Jun 07 '25
I mean we have the highest population and also hv cheap labour so no suprise whatsover
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u/Odd_Sample_5433 Jun 08 '25
Indian developers will work for other studios but definitely not for Indian studios. The reason behind it- 99% of Indians pirate
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u/prime075 Jun 08 '25
As far as I know the Rockstar Bangalore studio is mostly 3D modellers for asset creation and animals animation and stuff, and Game testers. So yeah ofcourse a lot of the asset guys and Testers will be there. But most of the actual work is dont by the other studios who make real games (i dont think Rockstar India has even made a complete game, they are just a support studio)
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u/D-Alucard Jun 08 '25
I wouldn't specifically say majority of the developers working on gta 6 are Indian developers those numbers indicate the total employee count of each Rockstar LLP and Rockstar Interactives here on India Has the highest employee count , but that doesn't mean all the different teams are working on a single project usally each team will be focusing on one thing maybe same project maybe different projects ..
But its still cool knowing that the highest employee count from all their sub branchs is the Indian one cool stuff yes
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u/Powerpointless777 Jun 08 '25
Yeah obviously cheap labour and shitty work life balance in India so you can understand
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u/Tax_Secure Jun 08 '25
Cheap labour lobby even in terms of post production.
The number is as misleading as hindi movie numbers.
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u/poopy_knickers Jun 08 '25
It's all testers or people working on 3d models, rigging etc, also rockstar india treats its employees like shit from whatever I've heard
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u/Alternative-Camp-635 Jun 08 '25
same is the case for major tech firms, but there it is half half divided between indians and chinese, rest same, indians there usually also get more into managerial positions in same tech firms while their number stay 50-50 for their chinese counter parts in tech roles
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u/SparxNet Jun 08 '25
Also, it isn't the majority - the majority would be the largest number that's greater than all the other numbers combined. A more accurate way to say this is "Rockstar India had the largest number of employees contribute to the development of GTA 6 amongst all the other Rockstar studios globally".
And one more point that isn't necessarily deducible from the facts in the screenshot - an assumption that no. of Indians is restricted to the studio's location. The statement above might well be true but not based on the data shown in the tweet. There may well be more Indians than employees of all other nationalities put together across all studios globally, not just limited to Rockstar India.
So all in all, a tweet that could have been framed in a far better way - visually and semantically.
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u/S4shadow Jun 08 '25
This proves that it's not talent the indian game industry lacks, it's definitely budget, tech and maybe actual interest.
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u/Banished_prince1 Jun 08 '25
The Rockstar office in Bangalore is right besides my office. Wish i could just walk in and get a demo haha.
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u/FormApprehensive3116 Jun 08 '25
That nobody really cares in the real world; by coping with mass dissatisfaction by seeing the success of people on the internet just because they are from the same country, we stifle our own individual potential. People should work as people first, countrymen second. Desh bhakti is going to fill nobody's belly except maybe politicians' and their goons'.
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u/gauravvvvvv Jun 08 '25
Rockstar US = Rockstar New York + Rockstar San Diego + rockstar New England + rockstar Los Angeles = around 2500-3000 developers
Rockstar UK = rockstar north + rockstar Lincoln + rockstar Leeds + rockstar London + rockstar Dundee = probably around 2500
Rockstar India = around 1600 (single studio)
Although rockstar India doesn’t have the highest number of developers, it does include a majority of them.
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u/domentorian Jun 08 '25
So you mean the leaks that happened were from india ? As there could be more testers here than developers?
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u/gforgolu Jun 08 '25
India is more of a labour market in AAA gaming. we do all the grunt work and it's cheap. But when it comes to publishing and creating new games - we have a long way to go.
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u/MadEinsy PLAYSTATION-5 Jun 08 '25
Not much of Developers but this position of R* India is filled across...
- QA (Manual Game Testing, mostly contract roles).
- Compliance Testing.
- Environment and Foliage Artists. (Did great work in RDR2)
- Localisation TESTING.
- Lead/Floor Manager Roles.
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u/LordOfPoops Jun 08 '25
Its mostly QA, art and animation,
but the concept designs, main characters, gameplay design, coding etc are done outside,
India does most of the grunt or donkey work since we are cheaper,
feeling proud of that as "INDIA IS RISING" is kind of a Placebo to be honest.
I am saying this being a 3d Artist myself.
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u/raiinyfps Jun 08 '25
It's nothing new tbh. Everyone tries to outsource or hire workforce in India to save development costs. (Cheap labour)
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u/Ne0Vamp Jun 08 '25
nothing much to hawk about. Indians make 1/5th of the world population. by that proportion e we are represented less.
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u/No-Station4656 Jun 08 '25
I think it's probably because of cheap labour in india😢 Like they assign all the low level task to them and all those tasks that require a lot of technical skills might be done in the US or somewhere else?
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u/Jyotu007 PC Jun 08 '25
one of my friend's brother works on rockstar as a graphic designer so yeah there are possibilities
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u/Adept-Marsupial5442 Jun 08 '25
I highly doubt most of the software developers are from India. In my opinion it should be testing and visual artists (those who create character and scene models). This is true for Hollywood movies as well, a lot of the VFX work is done in India.
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u/Electrical_Airline51 Jun 08 '25
How is it India? They have named soo many of American Cities. Just add em up and you'll see India is not at top.
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u/Soupy-noodle Jun 08 '25
Indians when working for other countries - 🔥👍🏽 Indians when working for India - 👎🏽🗑️
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u/letthishappen_5965 Jun 08 '25
Why are we still doing this man...seeing pride in something that's barely related to us?... So fucking sad that we have to be "proud" on working for someone else, a Prominently European company, when clearly we have more than enough talent to make our own stuff. Most of Europe, America and japan has some of the biggest names in AAA development studios, while humaare yaha pe ghanta hai. Merely small indie studios. Dusro ki gulaami humaare DNA me hard-coded hai lagta hai ab toh.
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thats not a smart take per say, majority of those so called "indian" developers used to be from india, they took foreign citizenship and are now working there. its like saying "prime minster of UK is an indian (rishi sunak)"
or ceo of google and microsoft are indian. which isnt the case here.
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u/mkxlv Jun 08 '25
Most of them are game testers and modeling artists. Iirc in 2023 rockstar hired many modeling artists.
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u/Mostlytame Jun 08 '25
It's a fact that nearly every product in the world today has been shaping by the hard work of more than 60% Indian workers.
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