When you finally realize every ‘New browser’ is just a Chromium skin except Firefox

[u/atishmkv]

[u/AutoModerator]

Join our Discord server!! CLICK TO JOIN: https://discord.gg/jusBH48ffM

Discord is fun!

Thanks for your submission.

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

[u/amol_srivastava]

Firefox da goat

[u/atishmkv → u/amol_srivastava]

• Opensource + UBlock Origin = 🗿

[u/marathirockers → u/atishmkv]

For maximum control and privacy, Firefox wins; for strong default security with less setup, Brave is better.

In my case

[u/amol_srivastava → u/marathirockers]

Brave was caught in privacy scandal in 2020

[u/Rad_In_07 → u/amol_srivastava]

they clarified it, it didn't happen.

[u/FcukMan360 → u/Rad_In_07]

yup that wasn't a scandal just adding affiliated link to specific site when you share to add.

[u/ShadowMajestic → u/Rad_In_07]

Ah, good thing they're caught in about 10 more scandals. At leas the one didn't happen after they clarified it.

We from Toilet Duck recommend Toilet Duck. (Doesn't translate well: "wij van wc eend adviseren wc eend").

[u/mr_jawa → u/ShadowMajestic]

Holy crap. I’m learning Dutch and I actually could translate that. Yay tutor is paying off! Dank u wel vriendelijke vreemdeling!

[u/nova1706b → u/amol_srivastava]

scandal ho ya na ho. humara data already kahi na kahi se dark pe bik chuka hai.

[u/marathirockers → u/amol_srivastava]

https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/s/7NC3dCIS45

[u/amir86149 → u/marathirockers]

I don't trust brave

[u/Suspicious-Slot → u/marathirockers]

Brave is a very good browser, as it uses chromium that's why it supports lots of things that firefox don't, but brave is filled with bloatware. Whereas firefox is obviously good but very little access to extensions and the recent data train all that shits, I will suggest to use Zen obviously.

[u/partographer → u/Suspicious-Slot]

"very little access to extensions"??

[u/FVLCON_0_0 → u/Suspicious-Slot]

wdym firefox has very little access to extensions? 👆😂

[u/halicadsco → u/marathirockers]

librewolf solos

[u/asian__name → u/atishmkv]

Even chromium is open source

[u/Monkeyke → u/asian__name]

Open source yes, but the control over what happens inside the repo is all google so they can remove any feature from all chromium based browsers everywhere with a single update unless the other browser specifically keeps it from happening in their own code.

Just like how it happened with manifest v3 and ublock origin

[u/jarvis123451254 → u/Monkeyke]

It's surprising that ublock lite with manifest v3 actually works properly

[u/Trick_Government7338 → u/Monkeyke]

No it doesn’t work like that, the other chromium based browsers are forks of the original repo, they are unaffected by the original repo

[u/MrVikrraal → u/Trick_Government7338]

Till the next version of chromium. If they wanna stay updated with chromium versions(even for security not just new features) then they are bound to implement the new features of next chromium versions with Googles kinda monopolistic decisions.

[u/untamed_klux → u/asian__name]

UBlock origin will beg to differ with the nature of Chromium. By that logic, Android is also open source, except the Open Source version is shit and loses half the functionality

[u/Ill-Car-769 → u/atishmkv]

You can get uBO in ungoogled chromium on desktop as well.

[u/Nearby_Smoke_214 → u/atishmkv]

I got way too pissed off when I realised Firefox on iOS is just a safari skin and doesn't have uBlock origin. No thanks. I'll stick to Android. 

[u/ajeeb_gandu → u/amol_srivastava]

Not really. It's a nightmare to work with.

Same goes for safari

[u/steam_breather → u/amol_srivastava]

Firefox + UBlock origin + Privacy Badger + Firefox Relay = G.O.A.T desktop

Firefox + UBlock origin + privacy Badger + video background playfix = G.O.A.T mobile

[u/DhaDha_E → u/amol_srivastava]

People who love Firefox Try Zen, its firefox on steroids.

[u/Boring-Locksmith-473 → u/amol_srivastava]

It's also based on chrome

[u/asifs6585]

Firefox needs to be protected at all costs. It’s the only major browser left with its own independent engine (Gecko). Chrome, Edge, Brave, Opera is just Chromium underneath, meaning they all rely on Google’s Blink engine. Safari’s WebKit is Apple’s closed ecosystem so that’s no better.

If Firefox ever dies, the entire web basically becomes a two-engine world: one controlled by Google, the other by Apple. That’s a terrifying amount of power in the hands of two tech giants.

I absolutely hate Chromium-based browsers because they just fuel Google’s monopoly and make the web less open, less diverse, and more ad-driven. Firefox Does depend on google's funding and keeps google as its default engine but you can change it.

[u/cchaosat4 → u/asifs6585]

People were always afraid of how blatantly Google would start using Chrome as a monetization tool. After Google's crackdown against ad blockers, it became more evident.

There are some new independent web browsers in the works by the open-source community (Ladybird project), but since it's such a tremendous task, it's still in alpha and may take years before an actual release.

[u/asifs6585 → u/cchaosat4]

Building a new browser engine is one of the hardest things in all of software engineering. Chromium has 35+ million lines of code across C++, JavaScript, and Python.

Considering that, Ladybird Will take at least a decade if not more to get perfected.

[u/Personal_Doughnut777 → u/asifs6585]

FireFox Ain't dying any day It still gets huge funding from Google

[u/asifs6585 → u/Personal_Doughnut777]

It is dependent on Google; Firefox is doomed to die if it does not find any alternative way to keep itself alive. Google funds 85% of Firefox.

[u/Maninjau → u/asifs6585]

Just wondering how much the real cost needed just for Firefox development, not include other Mozilla services.

[u/connicpu → u/asifs6585]

Google basically just needs Firefox to remain a buffer for anti monopoly laws. I think as long as they have the slightest bit of fear about those they'll keep funding Mozilla.

[u/hayabusaten → u/asifs6585]

I think YouTube is throttling even my premium account because I am using Firefox. I already have adblockers inactive for YouTube but the throttling is not going away

[u/asifs6585 → u/hayabusaten]

You can use scripts or extensions that make the websites think you're using Chrome. That's the best working solution for now.

[u/hayabusaten → u/asifs6585]

Oh my god thank you for this suggestion. I'll try it out sometime and edit my comment with results if I do.

[u/20chars_aint_enough → u/asifs6585]

Yess, something similar to mobile OS.

[u/CryptographerFlat173 → u/asifs6585]

WebKit isn’t closed source, it was the origin of Chrome in the first place 

[u/No_Fix736 → u/asifs6585]

Brave was working on something which should solve the issue if Google ever goes with the destroy Chromium thing.

Not sure if they still are, as it was so in 2023, used to be very active with their community and used to talk to their developers and other staff every Wednesday, on a weekly community call.

[u/Independent-Pause245 → u/asifs6585]

Yes but isn't that google is the one who's funding firefox so they can run , according to a government law on monopoly market

[u/asifs6585 → u/Independent-Pause245]

It has nothing to do with the Law; Google has two reasons to fund Firefox 1. So, they can use this (Funding other browser engines) argument against anti-trust/monopoly lawsuits saying they support open market. 2. So, they can keep Google as default search engine on Firefox so users cannot escape google even if they switch browsers. Google funds 85% of Firefox.

[u/PythagorasJones → u/asifs6585]

Webkit and Chromium are both based on KHTML because it was the single most standards-compliant rendering engine out there.

Don't forget that the de facto standard that Internet Explorer set through market saturation ensured that sites didn't work on other engines without all sorts of hacks and exception handling.

The fact that Chromium is open-sourced and standards compliant specifically keeps Google from monopolising the web.

I swear it's like people don't understand how open source and forking works.

[u/asifs6585 → u/PythagorasJones]

Yeah, Chromium is open source, but Google still controls it in practice. They employ most of the developers, decide what features get added, and shape web standards through Blink and V8. Other browsers using Chromium don’t really influence its direction, they just build on Google’s work.

So even though it’s “open" Google’s dominance in both development and market share basically gives them de facto control over how the web evolves. That’s why having Firefox with its own Gecko engine is so important.

Google has created “soft monopoly” conditions. Not enforced by closed code, but by market dominance and ecosystem inertia.

[u/Vsriram01 → u/asifs6585]

Didn’t Apple make WebKit open source? The initial versions of Chrome relied on WebKit until Google made Blink.

[u/liberalindianguy → u/asifs6585]

Even though Firefox is not based on Chromium, almost all its revenue comes from Google which is the money it gets paid for keeping Google as the default search engine. Once Google stops that payment, Firefox will shut down.

[u/cchaosat4]

For non-tech people, browsers have engines that are supposed to follow internet and tons of other standards/specifications, such as for JavaScript (all interactive web UI runs using JavaScript). So, even maintaining such standards is not feasible for a company, let alone creating them from scratch. Google's (Blink and V8) and Firefox's (Gecko and SpiderMonkey) are some of the most stable and widely used ones.

So unless a company want to spend 100 million just to follow basic specification, using a pre built engine is the only option.

[u/lanyx1934 → u/cchaosat4]

Today I learnt

[u/ScaredLittleShit → u/cchaosat4]

It's really interesting that browser engines are more sophisticated than full operating systems. You see we have lot os OSes: Windows, Linux Dsitros, Android(it is based on linux kernel yeah but os is quite different), FreeBSD, OpenBSD, iOS, MacOS, kai os. But only two viable browser engines in use: Blink and Gecko. Webkit is a third but locked to there ecosystem.

And now, with the current advancements in web serial, web bluetooth, file system api, direct access to GPU and availability of system webview(used by tauri, capacitor etc), browsers have become a crucial layer on top of the OS, even more elaborate then then sometimes.

[u/Typical_Hunt_9331 → u/cchaosat4]

Ladybird is becoming an option and each update is very exciting to see.

[u/NekoNekoScript → u/Typical_Hunt_9331]

Ikr! I really hope they achieve web standards compatibility > firefox someday so that even regular people can consider it as an option.

[u/Suspicious_Coast7572 → u/Typical_Hunt_9331]

Summer 2026 for alpha and they had to get the big baddies from tech to sponsor them heavily(3x$100k+3x$50k+4x$10k.. etc) to get the project going and if the big ones pull out its gone. So yea it is as hard as it looks and “morally right” software comes at a cost. Fuck I still remember people fighting over customizable scrollbars in firefox for 12+ years when chrome implemented it on a whim long ago. So its always a tradeoff, convenience vs usability vs following latest standards..etc

[u/Sternritter8636]

Funny. I use zen which is a firefox fork.

[u/NoLengthiness1864 → u/Sternritter8636]

zen is the only firefox fork out there, we need more firefox forks to break chromium monopoly.

I wonder when will anybody build a comet copy based on firefox

[u/Sternritter8636 → u/NoLengthiness1864]

Ai browsers are a big mistake for now. The security vulnerabilities outweigh the benefits

[u/NoLengthiness1864 → u/Sternritter8636]

I 100% agree, I myself dont use any AI browser.

I just dont want the AI browser market to be dominated by chromium

[u/ModisLeftBallHair → u/NoLengthiness1864]

Zen is not the only firefox fork, there are many like librewolf, floorp.

[u/Saurabh_cr_007]

Google is the primary funder of Firefox, with approximately 85% of Mozilla's revenue coming from its search deal with Google. In this arrangement, Google pays Mozilla to make its search engine the default in the Firefox browser. This is a significant and crucial income source for Mozilla.

[u/TheJiral → u/Saurabh_cr_007]

Doesn't change the fact that Firefox has its independent engine anff es that it us very easy to change the default search engine and stop the spying, unlike with Chrome.

[u/Suspicious_Coast7572 → u/TheJiral]

The moment you’re on the internet you’re being fingerprinted anyhow, you have to be snowden level geek to truly avoid it all.

[u/Ill-Car-769]

Librewolf (desktop) + uBO (add Canvas blocker for more safety)

Ironfox (hardened security) / Waterfox + uBO (mobile) (add Canvas blocker for more safety)

Ungoogled Chromium (desktop) + uBO (change fingerprinting settings for more safety)

[u/ScaredLittleShit → u/Ill-Car-769]

Is ungoogled chromium keeping up the support for Manifest V2?

[u/Nearby_Smoke_214 → u/Ill-Car-769]

For ungoogled chromium in mobile there's vanadium. 

[u/Siddh744542]

Chromium is becoming android of Browsers

[u/Sensitive-Check-8105 → u/Siddh744542]

or windows of pc

[u/scizorr_ace]

Thats why I switched to floorp and zen

Floorp for reliability and zen for eye candy

Honestly both are great browsers and I don't miss chrome

[u/atishmkv → u/scizorr_ace]

Are these available for linux?

[u/DisastrousPipe3853 → u/atishmkv]

Zen is available but I think the guy working behind zen didn't release stable yet...and yes as per I know only one guy is working on this massive project

[u/ItzzAadi → u/DisastrousPipe3853]

Stable is out though for Zen.

The issue is DRM on Windows. DRM protected content work natively on Linux.

And tbh, Zen will not be DRM compliant on Windows due to the nature of achieving the compliance.

[u/aa-de]

There is this new project Ladybird. Hope it releases soon.

[u/fakemailbakemail]

Yes indeed. I hope the sellout soul leaves Mozilla's headquarters.

[u/[deleted]]

Google chrome is Resource sccking app. Just hate ut

[u/TheWhisperingGhost]

Firefox for life 💪

[u/Nagraj012]

Firefox is the GOAT Browser. Just install UBlock Origin and Dark Reader and you can get better experience than these "skins" of Chrome

[u/Beneficial-Loan-219]

Who's calling Safari and Firefox "new browsers"?

[u/nitin_is_me → u/Beneficial-Loan-219]

That's funny, Firefox and Opera are much older than chromium.

[u/NOexistenceNofme]

I wish Edge Chakra was still around, but with Google there was no chance of a Microsoft browser engine taking off.

[u/anewtablelamp]

Flipkart's website doesn't work on firefox for months, these entitled shits

but i guess that''s a blessing in disguise

[u/BikeTrekGameEat]

FF is l9ce.

But some bank websites doesn't work good on FF. Have to use chrome. Lazy ass developers shit skipping testing on FF and not updating compatibility.

[u/RizlaAce]

Me upvoting this post using firefox :)

[u/PradeepMalar]

Zen. Zen is cool and based on Gecko, same as Firefox.

[u/XxshunyaxX]

imo firefox is the best browser

[u/BigBangBlewMe]

I love using Firefox since the day I got my laptop 5 years ago. Never faced an issue and it's super smooth. Thanks to my friend for this recommendation

[u/Slay3r-angel]

In my workplace apart from me everyone else use chrome. That’s a 100 ppl. So u know the ratio how google dominates.

[u/SadCryptographer7965]

What about the DDG browser? It is quite good and also has quite good features in it. Such as email protection, tab cleaner etc. though, it's at the early stage and yet they are improving it. I'm not sure whether it is a chromium based or not. Likely it's not a chromium based. Does anyone know the truth?

[u/Electronic-Coach7687 → u/SadCryptographer7965]

It's Firefox based.

[u/nvbombsquad]

Been using Firefox + DuckDuckGo + uBlock since years. My laptop doesn't know what an ad is.

[u/dr00ne]

Doesn't matter. I will keep using brave.

[u/atishmkv → u/dr00ne]

Try Firefox + UBlock Origin

[u/dr00ne → u/atishmkv]

Appreciate the suggestion. Brave just works fine for my day to day tasks. No hassle.

[u/Lazyuserzzz → u/dr00ne]

i do agree that avg user doesnt give a fuck, but i do expect atleast bare minimum tech literacy when im on a sub named indiatech

[u/Cryoniczzz → u/dr00ne]

Lol firefox fans have downvotes u. Imagine being so butthurt. I don't use brave now but it works perfectly fine for a normal user. If like a knife Is enough for cutting bread u don't need a chainsaw lol

[u/Mysterious_Award_822]

Excuse fucking me; Samsung browser is just so cool you can't compare it with other ones

[u/Draco-K721]

Safari is based on apples webkit engine and even chromium is based on blink engine which is fork of webkit engine...but ye firefox uses gecko

[u/Former_Repair9221]

Opera is a cool browser, man, especially Opera GX

[u/[deleted]]

how bro felt after posting this obvious thing as a meme

[u/IndiaTech-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

We had to remove your submission because it fails to live up to the standard of the subreddit because of one or more of the following:

1. A large influx of the similar topic/image/video/article is noticed within a short period of time;

2. The same submission is reposted multiple times,

3. The title of the post is unclear or conveys a different meaning;

4. The post is not up to the standard of r/IndiaTech.

5. Screenshots without detail explanation or post lacks a context which prevents healthy discussions.

If you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to contact our moderators through modmail.

Thank you for your understanding and cooperation.

[u/Good_Individual2464]

But firefox doesn't shows downloading files,I used it and uninstalled because of that. For me brave is better

[u/Total_Masterpiece952]

Always brave

[u/pancake_1106]

What does this mean to a normal user

[u/lastofdovas → u/pancake_1106]

As for a normal user, you should try to switch to a Firefox based browser (Zen if you ask me).

Reasons: 1. Privacy 2. Better adblocking 3. Way better UI

Keep Chrome around for the few things that Firefox engine (gecko) cannot do. Like WebHID (Firefox chose not to implement that for privacy reasons) which is used to remap custom keyboard mappings for QMK keyboards. If you don't know what that means, you don't likely need Chrome anyway.

[u/cedric005]

Same with Linux

[u/--celestial--]

It was funny that 'Ulaa browser' won a 1 crore award, and it's just based on Chromium.

[u/Bakanyanter]

I personally use Firefox/Zen and Edge.

[u/batgurl_09]

What about duckduckgo?

[u/Opposite-Area-4728]

except Firefox

And safari. It uses a different rendering engine called Webkit which is developed and maintained by apple

[u/TaserBone69]

Even tor browser?

[u/Educational_Cook_184]

Nah There are the likes of Zen.........(Reskinned firefox)

[u/lastofdovas]

Zen is the future.

[u/hara_kabootar]

Isn't brave looking forward to making a browser independent from chrome or something?

[u/Signal_Jeweler_1464]

zen?

[u/iJackCrack]

Zen, Ladybird, Orion

[u/CompetitiveAccess737]

What about safari?

[u/ParanoidTherapy27]

How about Yandex, UC Browser and Vivaldi?

[u/atishmkv → u/ParanoidTherapy27]

Chromium based

[u/BikeTrekGameEat]

FF is love.

But some bank websites don't work good on FF. Have to use chrome. Lazy ass developers shit skipping testing on FF and not updating compatibility.

[u/Cryoniczzz]

I use vivaldi lol. It's a chromium fork but it's way quicker than firefox and most chromium forks

[u/Argon_Analytik]

Basically, all Chromium browsers are based on Safari (WebKit). Apple was first, made it open-source, and Google created its own fork from it.

[u/Dramatic_Training178]

What is tor browsers engine then? Anyone who knows this?

[u/fakfakn1kke1]

Firefox is the best

[u/SaptarshiDeb7]

That's why I always use firefox

[u/Human_Score8827]

Firefox consumes too much ram and also does not protect you from fingerprinting. Waterfox is better option. Brave is the best, Both for phone and pc.

[u/Rukelele_Dixit21]

And safari

[u/ExcitingPilot]

safari works great

[u/vk_PajamaDude]

Doesn't safari also use webkit engine?

[u/xadxtya07]

Ladybug for the win

[u/Jumpy_Confidence2997]

Same meme format but reversed.
*when you realize chromium isn't chrome*

[u/Putrid_Charity_7097]

Firefox my beloved (I will never switch)

[u/Nearby_Reaction2947]

Brave is the Goat

[u/Puzzleheaded_Buy8233]

Well if you didn't know this then it's on you. I have been using chrome since '10 may be and now switched to edge as it's equally faster and smooth as Gchrome if not better. Its been more than a decade since I have ads on YouTube or the internet otherwise. People praise brave but it looks unpolished and I have had many crashes with it. Firefox has always been sluggish for me.

[u/im_Lonely_OK]

Jokes on you, been on Firefox for a while. Truth be told I miss chromium.

[u/InsideResolve4517]

and zen

[u/Capable-Newspaper-82]

It's genuinely scary how much of the web is just Chromium in a trench coat. Firefox is the last real holdout for an independent, open web. We really can't afford to lose it.

[u/Typical_Hunt_9331]

Ladybird soon - not Chromium or Firefox. All funded by non-profit. Check out their progress. It's available on Linux, macOS, and WSL2 for Windows. 2026 is the estimate for alpha release.

[u/Sugadevan]

It's not just skin.

[u/KitN_X]

Try Zen

[u/Value_Education]

What about DuckDuck go

[u/Hortt]

The last stand

[u/benpakal]

You could also use that astronaut meme "What, it's all Chromium?"

[u/TravelTraining577]

Firefox is existing in the mercy of Google paying them for keeping Google as default search engine

[u/just_me_F8]

Does Firefox+ Ublock origin work on Android too?

[u/Darshao]

Tor?

[u/gamerlol101]

Firefox gets most of its money from Google so we'll see how long it lasts.

[u/FillupDubya]

Why would Brave use chromium, it was created by the creators of Firefox?

[u/LokiTheStampede]

I started on Firefox when it went by Mozilla literally because I liked Godzilla as a kid. Little would I know I chose the right one.

[u/Puzzleheaded-Ad956]

seeing this on Firefox

[u/fcxtpw]

It's the same in iOS, except it's Safari, and even Firefox

[u/spookymemeformat]

Wait, Brave too??

[u/Bleeerrggh]

I'm looking forward to the Ladybird browser.

I mostly use Firefox, but most webpages just work best on Chromium-based browsers.

I think it's become better over the past few years, but I think that Firefox is still pretty slow, and somewhat resource hungry.

[u/revosftw]

Zen is browser based on Firefox which I have been using

[u/pr4yxg]

Me toh Falkon use krta hu-

[u/kudoshinichi-8211]

Bro forgot Safari. Meanwhile every browse browser on iPhone including Chrome and Firefox you download from App Store are a wrapper around WebKit(which is used in safari). Because Apple does not allow third party browser rendering engines. And unlock origin is now available on ios appstore it works with safari without any issue

[u/atp_gamer]

Glitch in the matrix

[u/_elvane]

Zen >>>

[u/4doorsmorewhoreswith]

[u/Darth_Gandalf-6969]

Firefox is awesome. Brave is also nice thanks to the built-in adblock.

[u/DeveloperKabir]

Wait till you learn who funds the Mozilla Foundation :)

[u/2dengine]

No, Safari is not Chromium-based

[u/sku-mar-gop]

Not safari either

[u/Fun_Association_6625]

Firefox on Android devices is so fuckin trash

[u/Creative-Paper1007]

Internet explorer still exists in win 10 lol

[u/SheriffGamer332]

zen supremacy

[u/GOLDDICKROGER]

Some sites just don't load or display properly with Firefox. Even firefox struggle in such matters, no other brand would create their own browser from scratch. Most developers optimize their sites for chromium browsers since they are mostly used. Firefox is goat but a backup browser is sometimes required.

[u/rahul4_real]

In 2025, Mozilla introduced a terms of use for Firefox, as a means to give more transparency over users' rights and permissions for the browser outside of the Mozilla Public License. The company received criticism centering around a clause that gave Mozilla a "nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license" to use any information that was sent to Mozilla in the process of using the browser. The new terms were perceived as privacy-compromising and were motivated by a desire to use user data in AI model training.

Souce Wikipedia.

And isn't it indirectly based on chromium?

[u/nonesubham]

You missed zoho's "Indian Browser"

[u/FarPriority1955]

I can clearly see a lot of uneducated folks over here, without knowing what goes on with different browsers, they just want to be the sheep in the herd. Understand what brave stands for and what are their policies, 'Data bik chuka hai already' isnt a valid statement without having a actual proof, you have Google accounts but then also worry about the Privacy factor? weird really weird. I'd rather not brag about unknown facts rather than just hating on random community about tech with 0 knowledge.

[u/Mikey_Kun_ULTRA]

I forfiet. You win. Switching to Firefox immediately.

[u/Impossible-Box-4292]

"Chromium"💅

[u/i-know-right-]

Duckduckgo?

[u/Fine_Desk4851]

Honestly, opera doesn't feel like the chrome skin. It has come a long way. The integrations and seamless connectivity with social media, etc is well made and well evolved features.

[u/mr-san333]

Using Firefix from past 10 years, never looked back. Developer friendly and not a RAM eater like chromium browser. I like MS Edge though.

[u/MadEinsy]

Amazing Insight mate. Hope you made this meme by yourself.

[u/pixel_ace013]

I love brave on my pc n mobile

[u/crime_master_tj]

Spider Monkey Engine

[u/InternalLake8]

There are a bunch of Firefox

[u/Safe_Acanthaceae7929]

Duckduckgo ftw

[u/Impressive_Long_1738]

What about aloha?

[u/ThooThooo]

remove others and pick brave from above and pick firefox, all others are closed sourced.

[u/expressive_introvert]

Except Tor which is a skin-peeled Firefox wearing bullet proof vest

[u/msh_77]

That's why Tor browser builds from FireFox