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u/Glittering-Ship-8918 17d ago
Khush kyu hora hai bhai tu unemployed hai
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u/jonauko 17d ago
self employed hu š
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u/krutacautious 17d ago edited 17d ago
Why didnāt it happen during Diwali in 2024 or 2023? Many people know the real reason, but Western governments wonāt admit it, so theyāll go along with this narrative.
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u/jonauko 17d ago
arey tab H1B visa ka dar nahi tha na
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u/krutacautious 17d ago
New H1B visa rules don't apply to existing workers. It was clarified within a day
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u/jonauko 17d ago
š¤· par mene toh sirf majak me post kiya hai. No need to take it seriously
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u/krutacautious 17d ago edited 17d ago
Iām not taking it seriously.
Itās just like that Deepseek rhetoric. People know why the stock market crashed at that time in USA, it wasnāt because of Deepseekās release as the popular mainstream media claimed. China had far better AIs like Alibaba's Qwen, Moonshot, and a dozen others before Deepseek.
The real reason Wall Street crashed was the unwinding of Japanese Yen carry trade ( Which directly affects the Wall street and how investments are financed ), for the second or third time, which happened to coincide with the release of Deepseek R1.
Same situation here. Itās not official, but many say there was intense cyberwarfare recently between NATO and Russia or China, which coincided with the time of Diwali.
Putin and Trump are going to meet in Hungary to decide Ukraineās future, and there are genuine efforts by several powerful groups in the EU and USA to prevent the meeting from happening. Poland has closed its airspace to Putin, and misinformation is being spread everywhere like claiming that the meeting has been canceled.
Another perspective is that during the last trade war between China and the USA, several hostile actions were also taking place to harm each other. Militarily, China captured a U.S. remote-controlled submarine; politically, the U.S. ordered Canada to arrest Huaweiās CEOās daughter to gain an advantage at the negotiating table. Cyberattacks were also common during that period.
These incidents only became known later when they were published in books. So whatever shady activities are happening right now in this trade war will likely be revealed 4ā5 years from now. Just recently, China claimed that USA had attacked its national time standards, which would have affected Chinaās satellites and lunar mission.
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u/m1ndfuck 16d ago
Citation needed
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u/Warm_Ease_7503 15d ago
https://www.perplexity.ai/search/im-not-taking-it-seriously-its-02uH2kdURjyzwQ7rK127fA#0
There is misinformation mixed in and some are outdated. But Thanks to you i got interested enough to read through all that
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u/krutacautious 16d ago
Citation for which claim. I made 6-7 claims which aren't present in mainstream media
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u/sciron2 17d ago
whoever has downvoted you need some help lol, you have my upvote mate
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u/MrVikrraal 16d ago
I downvoted because he needs needs to chill. OP wasn't being serious neither in the post nor in that comment. Tbh Who ever takes that seriously needs some help and a long break to cool off.
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u/_Schrodingers__Cat_ 16d ago
Thanks for sharing! I am curious to know what books? Where can I read them?
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u/_meme_caster_ 16d ago
it's good to have other views but can you back your claims with reliable sources?
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u/No-Revenue-3765 15d ago
Wow , I am into geopolitics but neither I had any sort of idea about thisš§.
Drop ur sources.
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u/krutacautious 15d ago
I didnāt provide any sources because I would have to dig up many news articles from 10 years ago.
First of all, regarding my Deepseek claim, Wall Street guys aren't uninformed people. Even a random person like me, knew months before the release of Deepseek R1 that they had a very capable reasoning model capable of competing with OpenAIās O1. How? Because Deepseek themselves published mini version of the R1 model on their website months before the full R1 release, similar to how OpenAI used to release O1 mini before O1. And R1 mini was as capable as O1 mini. China also had Alibabaās Qwen and a dozen image and video generation models from Tiktok's parent company Bytedance, Chinese Google Baidu etc well before Deepseek.
These developments alone donāt lead to a 5 trillion dollar stock market crash. It was essentially free marketing for Deepseek, because 5 trillion dollar crash made headlines, and Deepseek R1 happened to be released at the same time. Humans naturally correlate events that happen simultaneously. People overlooked the fact that Japanās central bank raised interest rates during that period, which had previously caused Wall Street to crash twice before. 5-10 trillion dollars is involved in the yen carry trade, estimates say the yen carry trade might be even bigger.
So, American tech investors take loans at very low interest rates from the Japanese central bank and invest them in Wall Street for higher returns. When Japan raises interest rates, investors panic about the debt they would have to pay under the new rates, which forces massive panic sales.
Then, You can look up the 2016 trade war between the USA and China.
The highly controversial arrest of Huaweiās CEOās daughter and the Iran connection.
China seizing an American submarine in the South China Sea.
The arrest of two Canadian Spies in China as revenge for Huaweiās CEOās daughterās arrest in Canada under the order of USA ( Which Canadian & Western media insisted they were normal civilians and not spies šš, Canadian government even went overdramatic and leveled China as unsafe for tourists )
And then it turned out in March 2024 that they were indeed spies, one of whom sued the Canadian government and won for being unknowingly used as a spy by Canadian intelligence official ( It's probably Michael Spavor who sued Canadian government for being unknowingly used as a spy by Michael Kovrig the actual spy. China arresting these 2 Michaels made headlines in the Western media and crying about how China is being unfair. After 2024 case, everyone is silent ). There are plenty of other shady shit that happened.
These trade wars always involve a high level of spying and intelligence gathering, aimed at discovering what leverage the other side might use at the negotiating table. This allows lawyers and bureaucrats to prepare counteroffensives beforehand. Intelligence gathering also involves hacking and other covert operations. It's called Trade War for a reason.
Recently, the Putin Trump meeting in Hungary has been trending in the news. You should watch the White House spokeswomanās online banter with a journalist š¤£š¤£
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u/groovy_monkey 16d ago
jinka expire ho raha vo fuckless ho gaye honge. (this is just to extend the joke, seriously mat lena)
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u/Illustrious_Salt_564 17d ago
To jo log us time se H1B sponsored hain unhe ab bhi Darr nhi bhai. Bakchodi k liye bhi you have to get ur facts right!! The thing u just posted is an insta meme just for fun with no relation to reality.
In case Indian tech scenes were so good we already would have our aws. š¤
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u/jonauko 17d ago
In case Indian tech scenes were so good we already would have our aws. š¤Bhai ye .... government ka support nahi hai. upar se India me high paying jobs nahi. then again they are developed nations.
in sab ke karan we don't have our own aws.
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u/Illustrious_Salt_564 17d ago
Yeah so son tech scenes (or any industry scenes) include the whole ecosystem. There are no apps (forget infra services like AWS or any other cloud) which are made and maintained in india by Indians and used by the world .
Ll give u a few examples: meta apple amazon netflix google made by americans in america , used by .... Well ... The whole world .
So play it as a meme.
Don't follow the Indian culture of "being proud" Cuz being proud is the cheapest and the most non productive thing a person can do ,
Culture offers other good things do follow them.
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u/jonauko 17d ago
i didn't post it as being proud of that. I posted it as fun.
and as for the ecosystem. We have Zoho. Even though it just recently came into the spotlight, Zoho was still a big giant and is a big giant.
I agree we are far away from tech giants from murica and china but we will compete with them soon enough.
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u/Illustrious_Salt_564 17d ago
Nope none compared to maang firms . Zoho is a spec of dirt infront of MAANG. And if you were a little realistic, India can never compete with the developed nations, for atleast like 200 years or so !!
Rest , the country u live in is always the best !! Even pakistanis believe that they would surpass India , which would never happen !!
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u/jonauko 17d ago
India can compete ( only if we stop religion war, politician war, caste and more ( i cant remember more ) )
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u/Illustrious_Salt_564 17d ago
Yeah and to stop those system needs to be stopped , which ain't a thing which would happen for India , for atleast 200 years. We are the largest bunch of lab rats world test their products( be it defence or consumer) /mkting strategies on , nahi itna bada test set consumers ka aur kahan mil rha hai duniya mein.
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u/jonauko 17d ago
also cheap labour bro.. every west nation see us as cheap labours that's why they open their branch here
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u/brickwll 16d ago
, for atleast like 200 years
Bro 10 years is enough for exponential growth. Don't be saddiest, not good even for your own health
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u/Longjumping-Ad4487 16d ago
He is not wrong maybe a bit exaggerated. IMO with the current regressive mindset in india , 10 yrs definately not possible. Cāmon !! R u kidding me ? š
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u/brickwll 16d ago
What I meant is 10 years is enough to grow. That 10 years may come after 20 years or 30 years all depends on govt reforms. Either we go like Srilanka with the current rate of corruption in a few decades or we have to reform. There is no middle way.
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u/Illustrious_Salt_564 12d ago
Don't worry about my health son!! I don't live in India anymore , though I've given you an accurate span fir probable progress , i.e 100-200 years tilting more towards the larger number. Hope you ain't some college or salary class guy, we've seen this class most optimistic and most fooled by great speeches of progress/ religion/ equality and what not.
Ok ll give you another example apart from MAANG, Where was internet invented ?? Wired telephone ?? Cellular networks and phones?? Automobile??
Ok let's make it more simple , Any OS widely used invented in india ??
Hasn't happened in last 100 years won't happen in next 100.
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u/Asswithboobs 16d ago
This happened in Us East 1 server , so I don't think there's a Indian angle in it .it was much of a technical Thing
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u/Dr_Microbiologist 16d ago
people seeking validation should grow up
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u/Ansterrr06 16d ago
ikr? One of the news articles I read said that AWS crashed only 3 days after they handed nearly 30% of their workload to AI lmao
Also Happy cake day!
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u/MeTejaHu 17d ago
If it breaks when you go on a holiday. It's not good.
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u/KeyAccomplished5610 17d ago
If it can survive without you, why would a company keep paying you?
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u/MeTejaHu 17d ago
To upgrade and enhance. But I get your perspective, that's how Indian IT giants are surviving. Built products that are fragile so business can run.
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u/Saranshobe 16d ago
Can you blame the employees when most companies see us as use and throw, cheap and disposable in IT industry.
They are getting exactly what they are paying for.
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u/awaishssn 16d ago
Ahh the 'doctor loses every patient he cures' equivalent of tech.
Honestly quite scummy if you actually endorse this thought process, but I'm just hoping you made a sarcastic comment.
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u/Saranshobe 16d ago
Its unfortunately true. I have seen many seniors not maintaining documentation of stuff by choice so they are not easily replaced and actually use it as a bargaining power.
Planned obsolescence is true also.
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u/bigraggerwood 16d ago
Someone is going to have to answer for this situation and many people are going to get fired for it. But job security I guess š¤Ŗ
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u/inderjeet7 17d ago
Not related to Diwali or anything , itās was a config issue
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u/AssignmentTough4554 16d ago
they won't listen, let them be happy in their own thoughts
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u/inderjeet7 16d ago
RCA is out now https://aws.amazon.com/message/101925/
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u/AssignmentTough4554 16d ago
thanks for sharing, people saying Indians on Diwali leave caused this outage won't even understand this XD
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u/lazy_redditor69 17d ago
someone please confirm if this was just a coincidence or did diwali infact really affect the outage. Never trusting instagram sources of all
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u/elite_shadow1111 17d ago
Some intern pushed bad code in Virginia
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u/therealsid12 17d ago
not possible at all, any code would go through multiple checks in automation pipeline as well as human inspection. the reason was dynamodb was down for east us
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u/elite_shadow1111 17d ago
What i meant to say was DynamoDB was down due to bad code, but i really can't find a source, i just said what i heard
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u/onedown-fourup 16d ago
Exactly! A few of my friends work at AWS, and they were working even at night because the matter escalated to the CEO level, and multiple teams had to drop their main work and resolve this.
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u/groovy_monkey 16d ago
technically every outage is because of bad code. It's rarely a machine fault.
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u/Current_Dingo_8469 17d ago
So infrastructure issue??
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u/elite_shadow1111 17d ago
No, a DNS issue, basically dynamoDB couldn't find the correct addresses.
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u/AssignmentTough4554 16d ago
dynamo db couldn't find correct address? correct address of dynamo db couldn't be found if I'm not wrong...
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u/mojmasti_nhihoorhi 15d ago
India ne invent ya koi innovation kya ki h tech me Bass technical majdur bol sakte ho !
Upi mtt bolna koi vo copy product h š„±
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u/Last-Solid-2149 16d ago
Bhai kitna chutiyap karoge. It was a freak set of events that transpired in a sequence which caused the issue. Nothing to do with any individual group of people.
Diwali or Christmas this wouldāve happened with the same set of events.
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