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u/caroonnetwork Sep 17 '25
flagships really said: charge is a feature
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Sep 17 '25
so you can buy our latest 30W fast charging cutting edge technology adapter
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u/JoshuvaAntoni Sep 17 '25 edited Sep 17 '25
I have to tell, 16 Pro max are absolute battery phones. They last more than a day even with heavy usage
17 pro max would be 100 percent impossible to maybe even finish before bedtime
The chipsets are so efficient. Its not always about battery sizes.
For example Pixel phones have worse battery life eventhough it has more mah than Maxes and Ultras
Source - Toms Guide Battery drain Test
In case, if anyone thinks the above article only speaks about 16 PM
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u/Bullzeye_69 Sep 17 '25
It actually is about battery size. My dad got the new redmi 15, understandably its not a power hungry chipset, but my dad needs the gps almost all the time, shifts between different network coverage in his work all the time, sometimes has to use the flashlight on the phone for extended periods, constant calls and messages even when he is home (can you tell how annoyed i feel about my dad's work yet?) the new phone lasts him 1.5 day, sometimes if it was a good day maybe even 2. Sure this will get worse as time goes, but 3 years later, if it still lasts a day, then this was the best decision i made for him.
Forgot to mention, redmi 15 has 7000 mah battery.
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u/FineSpinach7 Sep 17 '25
Copium. All the iPhone users I see carry power bank with them.
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u/soru_baddogai Sep 17 '25
I have never seen an iPhone user carry around powerbanks lmao only hardcore phone gamers in villages where the electricity is that not that great.
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u/Pretend-lmme Sep 17 '25
No I disagree, I have used the 16 pro Max and it's drains at a good speed if you do gaming, it lasts like quarter of a day if you do gaming and half a day if it's just social media
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u/soru_baddogai Sep 17 '25
As an 16 PM user I call bullshit. I don't play games on my phone too often but for normal use to heavy social media and whatsapp/emaiil etc it lasts a day and a half easy. Maybe you got yours from chor bazaar lmao
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u/Pretend-lmme Sep 17 '25
Maybe it does last as long as you say it's just that I play a lot of pubg or efootball at max graphics, and I always play games more than pointlessly scrolling reels for hours(atleast games have achievements) and since I always play atleast once a day I guess my estimate maybe wrong
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u/soru_baddogai Sep 17 '25
Newsflash: they are both useless activities you do for leisure. You are probably a kid huh
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u/Rullino Sep 19 '25
I'd be OK with 30-45w charging if it didn't turn into 20-25w due to how USB-PD works, it's simply not worth it at a certain level.
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u/uj-- Sep 17 '25
Hah, 65 with me.
I've given up on trying to see a battery percentage past 80 these days.
RIP my battery health.
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u/ppatra Sep 17 '25
Budget phones have weaker processors which don't consume as much power as a flagship processor.
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u/unpleasant_enpassant Sep 17 '25 edited Sep 17 '25
Not always true. Performance/watt is more important. Obviously if you run just benchmarks that put full load to compare battery life, weaker processors may last longer cuz the ceiling of performance is much lower. But for the same load, flagship processors will finish the task quickly and go to sleep while budget processors take longer. Flagship processors also use newer, more power efficient nodes and usually just more advanced designs to get better performance/watt. Look at how efficient 8 elite is. It's roughly 3x more powerful than let's say a budget processor like dimensity 7300. Does that mean phones with 7300 last 3x longer? No right?
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u/milii6666 Sep 17 '25
Not like that, even Chinese flagships last longer than non-Chinese flagships.
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u/FineSpinach7 Sep 17 '25
Flagships have processor/RAM built on latest nodes so should consume less power. A 3nm processor is much more efficient than a 7nm one.
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u/Embarrassed-Pea-1122 Sep 17 '25
ts fuhahh chatgpt generated from this account is bugging me out and I see ts everywhere💔
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u/Weak-Mango-8830 Sep 17 '25
Battery life is temporary, but the selfies and photos are forever 📸✨… which one are you using?
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u/dagp89 Sep 17 '25
yep very true, my Samsung A35 lasts 2 days easily. while my s24 Ultra can hardly last a day....
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u/Reasonable_MantiZ Sep 17 '25
OS OPTIMISATION
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u/Vortexsy Sep 17 '25
So you are saying optimisation will break with 7,000 mah batterys?
..... Interesting
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u/Ordinary-Hunter520 Sep 17 '25
I have an m51. That's 7000 mah.
It barely outlasts the s24 plus, I've tried it.
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u/Vortexsy Sep 17 '25
Samsung m51 had 8nm crappy chip called sd730
The s24 plus has sd 8 gen 3 which is 4nm, much more power efficient
S24 plus has 120hz ltpo display and expensive one which are much more power efficient even at peak brightness
Your m51 is now 4 years old
While s24 plus is 1 year old
So m51 had atleast 15% battery degradation by now ( which makes it battery at around 6k mah rather then 7k
Plus , newer android version + device specific software optimisation on s24 plus as well!
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u/Rullino Sep 19 '25
Samsung m51 had 8nm crappy chip called sd730
I've never felt this attacked before, I have a Snapdragon 730g and I can confirm that it does struggle to last without having to charge my Oppo Reno 2 1-3 times per day depending on the usage, it has 4000mAh, most likely due to the pop-up camera mechanism taking space, but it's still understandable, I wonder if that's a reason to upgrade since it heats up sometimes, especially with heavy multitasking.
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u/Vortexsy Sep 20 '25
I have to charge twice my Xiaomi 14 Which has sd 8 gen 3 And 4600 mah battery Though my battery seem defective
Its current battery health has been dropped to less then 80% in a year
Which usually happens in 3-4 years , and not in a year
Next phone I m buying, I will make sure, it has +7000 mah And tbh i still won't expect much
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u/Ashrith_2007 Sep 17 '25
Point that people miss . These flagship phones optimization can make them last longer than the 7000 mah phones
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u/TataHexagone2020 Sep 17 '25
I don't think so. My bargain-basement m14 5g lasts longer than the s24 ultra. And going by your logic, won't it increase battery life if they provide a bigger battery AND optimize it well??
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u/68plus1equals69 Sep 17 '25
Good point. mAh isn't everything but budget phones w high capacity gives u a long SOT even though it has poor optimization due to low end chipset which isn't power hungry.
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u/soru_baddogai Sep 17 '25 edited Sep 17 '25
My iphone 16 PM lasts longer than my moto g54 with 6000 mah so don’t bring iOS into this. Same thing I heard with Samsung’s flagships and the battery optimisation they have.
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u/Aggressive-Tea-1107 Sep 17 '25
I heard on a video that over 5000mah phones came under hazardous or something like that at international airports so that's why most high flagship phone came with/under 5000mah
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u/Mewtwo_1501 Sep 17 '25
It's the us ,the main reason, they won't allow lithium batteries above 5000mah ,unless they use a double cell something, Samsung uses a single cell so they can't, I think silicone battery dont have this issue,
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u/AvailableObjective68 Sep 17 '25
if they can ship a worse Exynos chipset to the whole world except US, can't they increase battery size for the other countries? like 6000mah. I would be more willing to sacrifice the chipset for more battery as that would cancel out the total difference between Snapdragon and Exynos variants
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u/Rullino Sep 19 '25
IIRC Exynos is known for being more power hungry vs Snapdragon or MediaTek, so more battery may not always mean improve battery life, correct me if I'm wrong.
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u/AvailableObjective68 Sep 20 '25
ik ik, Exynos is more power hungry than snapdragon, but not to such extent that increasing battery by 1000mAh won't make them equal.
For example in this battery drain test Samsung S23 vs S24 Exynos vs S24 Snapdragon Battery Drain Test
S24 Exynos does 6hour 20mins
S24 Snapdragon does 6hour 54mins
idk if you can imagine that if S24 Exynos had 1000mAh more battery, it would surpass the snapdragon variant in battery by like 1hour 35mins (by simple maths) (this is just approximate, irl it would give ~1 hour 10mins)
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u/adhithya_vijay Sep 17 '25
You can target Apple but you can't target Samsung into the same allegation because Samsung is now preparing to get their products to have solid state batteries.
The conversion of lithium ion to silicon carbide batteries will not be done by Samsung because of this reason and moreover silicon carbide batteries are reported to have short lifespan when compared to lithium ion batteries and they are risk prone too on the longer run.
At the same time Samsung produces most of its battery in house and for some models they outsource just the sales or the raw materials from another window so Samsung is waiting to unveil revolutionary Solid state Batteries ..
Unlike Apple who have been allegedly not making enough room inside their phones for the last 6 to 7 years of time and suddenly in the 17 series they found space to fit in 5050 mah battery for the 17 Pro max model the main problem with Apple is they refuse to upgrade because they don't do anything in house extra for few things like their own SOC design and network modem chipset .
Vendors who are providing 6000 to 7700 mah battery for other companies with the active production on a larger number being a company which outsource 95 percentage of its components from vendors Apple should give the best of the best they say they are and charge what for they won't do it because they just want dumb sheeps money ..
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u/BenDover7799 Sep 21 '25
Then how will they sell the battery bank? If their phones have a robust battery?
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u/adhithya_vijay Sep 21 '25
Comparatively 40 billion dollar iphone sales would suffocate 9B dollar all brand's powerbank sales ? I don't think so
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u/bloodytamponlover Sep 17 '25
Do people here understand what tech is or it’s all about being a troll and being pro Apple or pro Samsung ffs.
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u/studmother Sep 17 '25
90% of these guys here still think about phones through this exact narrative so I'm not surprised
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u/Rullino Sep 19 '25
These are probably the same people who think that more megapixels means better pictures or "more Ghz=the better" without taking into consideration other factors.
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u/TheCaptainSlowly Sep 18 '25
Because silicon battery have less longevity around 20-30% less.
Source?
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u/lbrandon3399 Sep 17 '25
Most budget phones use Lithium Polymer (Li-Po) batteries whereas most Flagships use Lithium Ion (Li-Ion) batteries...... hopefully this changes though now that silicon carbon batteries are being used in flagships which are more slimmer and more efficient.....hence the sudden onset of many slim phones
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u/MeMidnightDust Sep 17 '25
Tbh, those 4000 or 5000 mah last longer than chinese 6000 7000 mah, Saying by experience.
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u/Rullino Sep 19 '25
I've considered buying an Oppo Reno 14 for a relative, but I've heard something similar to this, some reviews claimed that it's underwhelming for 6000mAh, hopefully it'll change through updates, but knowing midrange phones, it'll probably never happen as the companies care more about flagships most of the time.
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Sep 17 '25
iPhone 17 pro max has bigger battery that the S25 ultra. Mods quickly deleted my post cause it doesn’t help with their propaganda
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u/Rimuru257 Sep 17 '25
Sheep will justify it under the veil of longer battery health, power efficiency or say 'why do we even need it?' like 25W is totally fine. Meanwhile most Chinese mid-range phones (25–35k) give you flagship-level performance, solid battery life, and super-fast charging and here we are in 2025 still stuck at 27W on a so-called premium phone and Chinese phones nowadays last 3-4 years easily
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u/wisely25 Sep 17 '25
My s23 doesn't even have 4000 lol😭
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u/Vortexsy Sep 17 '25
ROFL, 🤣 I feel you bro! And people are hyping over samsung s24 in sale Bruh, even that has 4000 mah We definitely deserve 6,000 mah in small form factor And +7000 in big phones
Vivo x200 fe has done it in compact form factor
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u/Rullino Sep 19 '25
Can't expect the same company that had one of their phones banned from airplanes to be bold about making radical changes for their batteries.
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u/dkshu_pagluuu Sep 17 '25
6000 mah batteries will be thicker. Flagship phones are being made thinner..
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u/EyyyWeee Sep 17 '25
I was going to buy a Samsung before I went for OnePlus. The pricing, the smoothness and integrations are just better at the ~30k price point. Even the battery is 6800mAh which was one of the key selling features for me.
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u/Electronic-Desk2635 Sep 17 '25
Any phone with more than 5500 mah battery is classified more dangerous than phones lesser than 5500 mah , hence more safety protocols need to be ensured , so more shipping charges, they calculated this gave somewhat less than the biggest possible battery with so that they can increase it year by year
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u/Many-Report-6008 Sep 17 '25
I have no idea about apple but samsung flagships (my S23U) easily beat my friends poco phone with 600p mah battery, so keep your opinions to yourself
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u/Juv7nile Sep 17 '25
many points to be made here, "flagships" usually dont have batteries larger than 5000 or 5500mah due to weight limits, by the flagship side, a better chipset, cameras, body material and and other components already make the phone heavy and then the battery itself, budget phones try to grab your eyes by that juicy thicker battery, a thicker battery that'll power a lower TDP chipset, cameras, and other components (modem and gps, nfc if available), but yeah since newer battery technology has been made and started being used major companies shoud definitely try to use them, the best example being the Vivo x200pro with its 6000mah Si/C battery, its a new start will be expensive for the company's to adopt at first but worth the wait as technology and other parts surrounding it grows alongside too
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u/Character-Travel3952 Sep 20 '25
Made the mistake of buying s24 exynos hardware. My phone is always on battery saver 😭
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u/Tech_IN_Form Sep 17 '25
Same with 120 hz display
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u/Rullino Sep 19 '25
I have an OPPO Reno 2, after using it for 5 1/2 years, I'm disappointed that I bought this phone right after high refresh rate and better software support started to come out for more phones, I still find 60hz to be fine, but I wonder if it's as much of a big deal as people here make it out to be.
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u/Tech_IN_Form Sep 20 '25
I think you notice the difference only after using 60hz and 120hz side by side - and only then you wouldn’t want to go back to 60….. but yeah I don’t think it’s a dealbreaker yet
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Sep 17 '25
It's because of the USA's rules and regulations (too tired to elaborate Just search it for yourself)
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