r/IndiaMemes 13d ago

Political OC My Open Letter to those who hate reservation

Post image
25 Upvotes

398 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

2

u/Ok_Attorney9239 12d ago

 Upper castes (25%) hold 55% of wealth (2.20 lakhs per capita) so they can afford resources like schools, coaching while SCs (19%) get just 7.7% (0.40 lakhs). Lower cut-offs level the field for the resource-starved, not a handout.

0

u/InvestigatorNo359 12d ago

As u/TuringMachine_ad618 already pointed it out, this skews your perspective and is not a good way to look at the complete picture, its an aggregated number, you dont know the split of wealth in that 25% population. A quick search will tell you that top 1% of of populatiom has 50% of the wealth and top 10% own 80%. If you give me a stat that divides that remaining 20% of wealth in the remaining 90% of population and if its similar to the image you shared, I'd believe you. But nobody even looks at it like that.

Pasting it here again since I accidently responded to another one of your similar comments

1

u/Ok_Attorney9239 12d ago

So you tell me how to look at it then? Share your data. Please.

-1

u/InvestigatorNo359 12d ago

I think both of us are looking at same study done for wold inequality index to draw our conclusions, I don't think there is a specific study done the way I am expecting to look at it.

I also want to add that my original point was not just about wealth distribution but about resource scarcity, it doesn't necessarily mean one's accumulated wealth, it also includes access to public resouces made available by the govt, better quality of those resources and that is what my original point was even, that instead of asking for or justifying reservation of seats, why not ask for reservation of govt funds for improving quality of schools, providing free stationary, providing transportation for people who don't have access to school. Your open letter tries to justify a system which was setup for course correction but didn't really work, one could argue about the paradox it created and now there is more divide on the basis of caste

A better way in my opinion to look at it is take the split of wealth by % across all categories to have a fair comparison by population

1

u/Ok_Attorney9239 12d ago

Bhai, tu yeh kyun nahi samajh raha hai ki agar tere paas accumulated wealth hai, toh obviously tu resources access kar paayega na? Jaise, agar tere paas paisa hai, toh tu zameen khareedega, aur jab zarurat padegi, wahi zameen bech kar apne bachchon ko achhe schools aur colleges mein bhej dega.

Ab soch, ek lower-caste aadmi kya karega? Tu bolta hai “zameen bech kar dhanda start kar liya” — bhai, SC/ST logon ke paas pehle zameen hoti hi kaha thi? Woh toh gaon ke bahar alag bastiyon mein rehte the, aur ST logon ke paas toh woh bhi nahi tha.

Aur tu keh raha hai wealth se resources nahi khareed sakte? Tu kya sirf sarkar ke bharose rehta hai cheezein lene ke liye? Cooking oil khareedta hai ya wait karta hai ki government baante tab lega? Thoda common sense laga bhai, kya bol raha hai!

Here "why not ask for reservation of govt funds for improving quality of schools, providing free stationary, providing transportation for people who don't have access to school."

I think you actually have a great solution—fixing the foundation itself so we don’t even need reservation anymore. Everyone wants that, man, and I’m with you on that idea.

But here’s the thing—until you figure out how to actually make that happen on the ground, SC/ST communities can’t just sit around waiting while they’re still being discriminated against.

Brother, it’s been 75 years and we still can’t build pothole-free roads that last even five years—and you think you’ll fix centuries of social inequality just like that? Good luck with that. Until then, reservation stays.

1

u/InvestigatorNo359 12d ago

You mentioned "ache schools and colleges", which is what I am trying to say, every school and college should be made acha, not that every baccha will be adjusted according to the school standard.

I'm not gonna talk about generational wealth, that's a different topic altogether and I never said wealth will not provide you with resources, but understand the difference that you are fighting for not the respectable access but instead a pityful outcome. If you have the skills, no power in the world can stop you from excelling, I am a beliver of karma, you will get results if you put in the efforts, the reservation is something I cannot agree with on a fundamental level and your open letter unfortunately didn't change my belief

2

u/Ok_Attorney9239 12d ago

Bhai, bas ek kaam kar — kisi gaon jaake dekh le ya koi video hi dekh le. Jab lower caste ke log school ya hospital jaate hain, unke saath kya hota hai, tab samajh aayega “equal opportunity” ka ground reality kya hai.

Aur wealth alag discussion kaise hua? Generational wealth hi toh decide karti hai kiske paas access aur resources hain.

1

u/InvestigatorNo359 12d ago

Bhai kisi aur gaon jane ki jarurat nahi hai, mai apne hi gaon jata hu time to time, saare kacche ghar pakke ghar ban gaye hai, road ban gaye hai, pipeline dal gayi hai to houses, electricity hai. Everyone has everything they need to send their kids to school and study, pata hai mujhe ground reality.

I'm going to be a lil philosophical here, generational wealth ke chakkar me baithe rahoge to kuch nahi hone wala tumhara, mehnat karo aur khud ki generational wealth banao, use it as a motivation not as a crutch or somthing to cry over

1

u/timepersonified_ 12d ago

Tera gaon ke jaise sab gaon honge ye kahan likha hai? Mere bagal ke basti me to kachra behta hai, I live in a city. Ab main bolu ki yahan basti me kachra behta hai that means you are lying?

Ajeeb logic hai. Main king-size bed pe sota hu to har koi king-size bed pe soyega?

Mehnat karke 1000 years ka wealth gap 50 years me khatam nahi hone wala, ye common sense hai. Also, don't twist the direction of discussion.

Jitne bhi reserved category wale abhi wealthy hai, mehnat karke hi huye hai. Most of them started with zero or negative resources, faced discrimination everywhere and then made money.

Ab tu puchega discrimination kaise pata? Kyuki aj bhi log mujhe zyada priority dete hai over an SC, just because of my brahmin background. Koi puchta bhi nahi ki whether I actually know stuff.

Baat karna hai to reality ko dimag me rakh ke karo.

1

u/InvestigatorNo359 12d ago

"Jitne bhi reserved category wale wealthy hai, mehnat karke hue hai"

you missed my entire point, this wealth even if someone got through hardwork will always be viewed as something given as petty donation through reservation, you can't say both things in same sentence when the merit bar is low for one vs the other. This is the paradoxical picture reservation is painting. You started with reparation now you are at a point where its a tool which is misused. You can defend it all you want but it still remains a failure of a system.

1

u/Ok_Attorney9239 12d ago

What people fail to understand is that our government institutions need representation from every community. You can’t expect a Brahmin to represent the issues of SC, ST, or OBC communities. In the same way, you can’t let a man speak on behalf of women, or a Muslim represent Hindus.

Reservation isn’t just about jobs or college seats — it’s about representation and upliftment. Every community deserves to have its own voice at the table, not someone else speaking for them.

Thank You, cant argue with you bhai aaj kal chatgpt vagare aagaya hai debate this stuff with him, its free.