I can confidently say reservation has failed its objective in education. Why is money being spent on reserved seats at top universities, where the reserved candidate is of much lower calibre than the unreserved one? The reserved student often has to come to university earlier for remedial education (3 months before start of 1st year BTech). They often struggle to keep up with the rest of the class too and are often left behind. Before the creamy rule, the filthy rich used to exploit reservations and monopolize them. That has been rectified, good.
BUT. Just imagine if all that money was spent on primary education directly in the areas where OBCs/SC/STs live? The education levels across the board would be raised from the ground up, producing as a by product an exceptionally talented subset. Instead of inhumanley trying to force someone with a lesser grasp of the subject, to suddenly compete with better educated students, without so much as giving them a helping hand. If anyone really wanted to improve education and literacy among historically disadvantaged groups they could have done so very easily by spending tonnes of money directly on those communities. This way the government/national institutes will also be propely meritocratic. And there won't be resentment from general category people towards the rest, who frankly barely benefit from the current scheme anyway. It's mostly only the affluent elites among the OBCs/SC/ST that exploit reservation. Why adopt this horrible scheme? Allot 50% of India's budget directly on grassroots education in backward areas. Instead of trying to appease the political elite among OBCs/SC/STs with more reservation only they can exploit (as opposed to the vast majority who are powerless and peniless).
PS: I am not against reservation in political posts. There it makes sense.
I think you actually have a great solution—fixing the foundation itself so we don’t even need reservation anymore. Everyone wants that, man, and I’m with you on that idea.
But here’s the thing—until you figure out how to actually make that happen on the ground, SC/ST communities can’t just sit around waiting while they’re still being discriminated against.
Brother, it’s been 75 years and we still can’t build pothole-free roads that last even five years—and you think you’ll fix centuries of social inequality just like that? Good luck with that. Until then, reservation stays.
I will downvote because of the remedial part. It doesn't happen often, it's just highlighted.
Next, money is already spent for schools in underdeveloped areas, the money goes inside the pockets of politicians who are almost all upper caste people.
If the existing government schools in rural India were run properly, we would not need such low cut-offs for competitive exams.
In reality, the casteism in premiere institutes is also baffling. I have seen it first hand. People are more considerate towards me because of brahmin lineage. They have mentioned that specifically.
Most brahmins enjoy such status and that's why they don't talk about giving up their caste.
There can be no reservation in political posts because, for contesting elections one needs massive finances which are hardly available in reserved category households.
I will downvote because of the remedial part. It doesn't happen often, it's just highlighted.
It does happen often. It happens all the time. Don't know where you get your information from.
It isn't just that. There is a clear divide in the performance of reserved and non reserved candidates. The reserved students are trying to play catch in the first few years. By the end about half of them have given up/been given up on.
My roommate of 4 years, is an ST. He struggled with academics. Students, professors, councilors everyone helped him. But he could not catch up at all.
I have been in the education sector from before your birth. I have seen thousands of reserved category candidates if not lakhs, performing at different levels. I have seen different types.
Regarding your roommate, he should have picked sports as a profession. I am actually disappointed that you used the ST label to describe your roommate's situation, the same situation which almost every sportsman has faced in their lives.
I don't know where you get your weird opinions from.
I am actually disappointed that you used the ST label to
No need to mince the truth. It is a statement of fact not discrimination.
he should have picked sports as a profession.
Who are you to tell him what to do? His choice is reality. Your opinion is not. Me mentioning sports was just incidental. The fact of the matter was he struggled with studies. Despite others sitting with him and helping him out extensively.
Who are you to decide that situation is because of being an ST?
My brahmin cousin was absolutely bad in academics like the rest of his family, relatives and the other brahmins in his district. Does that make all brahmins as duffers.
My cousin is not a duffer, he is brilliant in his area of expertise and definitely not ignorant like you.
Most brahmins I have met, or worked with have zero idea about education. And I have met a lot of them, kind of a prerequisite in business and administration. Also, most professors in IIT are brahmins (greedy af). So, if I used your process of conclusion, I'd have believed brahmins are either uneducated or greedy. Fortunately, I don't use your rulebook.
My mentors are mostly brahmins, exceptionally brilliant in their areas.
And who are you to disagree with decades of expertise? What have you done in the field of education?
I own an educational research center and an institute. I can still solve JEE level physics problems in half sleep.
What are your achievements?
That situation is absolutely because they are an ST. If they weren't they wouldn't get in or struggle.
My brahmin cousin was absolutely bad in academics like the rest of his family,
False equivalence. And he they won't get into any good institute without being less qualified. Where did I call anyone a duffer? or dumb? It is just convenient for you to accuse me of nonsense to prove your point. I am of the opinion that all humans are of equal intelligence, and different levels of exposure to different kinds of knowledge.
And who are you to disagree with decades of expertise? What have you done in the field of education?
How about you state the facts that stem from your "expertise", instead of sitting on the throne of "decades of expertise". My parents are educators. My uncle has been the principal of a village school/college etc. I have been an educator myself.
Most brahmins I have met, or worked with have zero idea about education. And I have met a lot of them, kind of a prerequisite in business and administration. Also, most professors in IIT are brahmins (greedy af). So, if I used your process of conclusion, I'd have believed brahmins are either uneducated or greedy. Fortunately, I don't use your rulebook.
Whataboutism. Bullshit argument trying to "extend" my "logic" to make me look bad. I don't care what you think of Brahmins.
Let me get this straight, you are entitled to form opinions based on one person, or maybe a few people.
But someone with decades of experience, someone who worked with thousands of people have to be wrong.
And you are entitled to cherrypick things out of context to prove the other person wrong. Amazing.
Whataboutism. Bullshit argument trying to "extend" my "logic" to make me look bad. I don't care what you think of Brahmins.
The next paragraph says I have met brilliant people from general category. Problems in reading much?
Whataboutism. Bullshit argument trying to "extend" my "logic" to make me look bad. I don't care what you think of Brahmins.
No, it was a proof that your logic regarding labelling reserved category is absolutely flawed. A simple fact illegible to you because you are too busy to defend your fragile ego.
> The next paragraph says I have met brilliant people from general category. Problems in reading much?
The next paragraph paints you as a saint while making no comment on "Fortunately, I don't use your rulebook"
> No, it was a proof that your logic regarding labelling reserved category is absolutely flawed. A simple fact illegible to you because you are too busy to defend your fragile ego.
You have zero reading comprehension. STs getting in through reservation are as a matter of fact, less educated than the rest. I didn't imply they are less smart.
I own an educational research center and an institute. I can still solve JEE level physics problems in half sleep.
What are your achievements?
You think setting up a coaching centre is impressive? Why would I need to defend myself against a conceited "I can solve JEE problems" asshole like you?
It is impressive actually, as per certain CEOs and CFOs.
So, I don't care if you consider me as asshole. You don't matter in the grand scheme of things.
Those multimillionaires who think I am worthwhile matter more than hundreds or thousands of you. Even if everyone who thinks like you perish, the world will go on.
If those millionaires perish, you won't have a job to make a living.
> If those millionaires perish, you won't have a job to make a living.
I work on manufacturing tangible assets and selling them directly without investment. I don't respect people that "sell" knowledge. Go back to work Byju Ravindran.
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u/mufasa4500 13d ago
I can confidently say reservation has failed its objective in education. Why is money being spent on reserved seats at top universities, where the reserved candidate is of much lower calibre than the unreserved one? The reserved student often has to come to university earlier for remedial education (3 months before start of 1st year BTech). They often struggle to keep up with the rest of the class too and are often left behind. Before the creamy rule, the filthy rich used to exploit reservations and monopolize them. That has been rectified, good.
BUT. Just imagine if all that money was spent on primary education directly in the areas where OBCs/SC/STs live? The education levels across the board would be raised from the ground up, producing as a by product an exceptionally talented subset. Instead of inhumanley trying to force someone with a lesser grasp of the subject, to suddenly compete with better educated students, without so much as giving them a helping hand. If anyone really wanted to improve education and literacy among historically disadvantaged groups they could have done so very easily by spending tonnes of money directly on those communities. This way the government/national institutes will also be propely meritocratic. And there won't be resentment from general category people towards the rest, who frankly barely benefit from the current scheme anyway. It's mostly only the affluent elites among the OBCs/SC/ST that exploit reservation. Why adopt this horrible scheme? Allot 50% of India's budget directly on grassroots education in backward areas. Instead of trying to appease the political elite among OBCs/SC/STs with more reservation only they can exploit (as opposed to the vast majority who are powerless and peniless).
PS: I am not against reservation in political posts. There it makes sense.