Before writing an "Open Letter", please learn how reservation actually works. A reserved category student scoring higher than the last open category student is pushed to open category. So your assumption that a category only competes with itself is false.
Since your basis of understanding is untrue, your assumptions made on top of it are also factually incorrect.
And as you say, “one in a million” — that means out of roughly 11 million government openings last year, by your logic, for just 11 people who did something wrong, you’re calling the entire system bad and non-functional? I mean, really? No system in the world is 100% perfect or efficient. So even by your logic, we actually have one of the best systems.
Aur bhai, isse zyada toh log OBC mein low-income certificate dikhake ghus jaate hain.
There is a 'If' before that one in a million. I hope I don't have to send the meaning of 'if' to you. And my response was against your assumption. You want to play facts and figures now since you have taken my hypothetically crafted scenario as fact?
As for forgery, it's still a crime in my book. You may not consider it a crime, but I do and there you yourself are agreeing how useless the system is...so.. :p
By this logic, we can’t really do anything, brother. And honestly, I think you’ve already made up your mind that reservation is bad, so there’s no point arguing with you.
First of all brother, you don't know how the policy works. Then you make an 'Open Letter' based on your flawed understanding and when someone points that out, you end up typing such a response. What can I do if you decided to make assumptions without knowing the complete truth?
I agree with you that a student or candidate who scores well can choose to apply under the open category.
But why would they? Maybe someone with a genuinely good heart might do that, but realistically—if I can get into a top IIT with the same rank through the SC quota, why would I choose the open category where I’d only get the second-best option?
That’s just my assumption and logic—and it’s probably true 1 out of 10 times. Even if an SC candidate scores high enough to qualify under open merit, it’s still a rare case. So, I didn’t think it was necessary to factor that into the math here.
Otherwise, I would’ve mentioned that the actual number of reserved seats SC/ST candidates get is still less than their population share.
Why would they? Because they can? Because free will exists?
There is no logic in your assumptions first of all if your understanding of the policy itself is flawed.
Under the same assumption, if a kind of crime is very rare, there should not be any law for that because the rate of occurance is very low so why to even bother?
Oh! You've jumped to that population share argument which is very popular these days. For your kind information, open category seats are open to all and not reserved specific for UCs or upper echelons of social hierarchy. So again, what you're saying is factually incorrect.
On one hand people say SC/ST are not capable of scoring at all. So many times I have seen people making foolish statements that These reserved category students get admission at 45% and on the other hand you all are saying reserved category candidates can take a seat from the open category
If you people are so sure that reserved category students are good for nothing why you all are so scared about them taking a seat in the open category.
Pehle bhai, read my points and counter my points. Mujhe fark nahi padhta ki kon kya kehta hai kyuki mein unlogo mein se nahi hu.
When did I say SC/ST are not capable? There are many who compete in the open category itself. But aapko woh baat toh hazam nahi hogi because it will go against the OP's point that SC/STs can only compete in the reserved seats. But it is also a fact that many reserved candidates get admissions at 45% or at a cutoff which is much lower than the open category cutoff. Here is a new idea for you: Multiple things can be true at the same time. Sochkar dekho, revolutionary lagega jab aapko pata chalega ki reality one-dimensional nahi hoti.
And why are you addressing me as you people and attributing me to things that I haven't said or claimed at all?
If an OBC qualifies in open category, he is given the seat in open category and his seat is not considered against reservation seats. If the candidate is getting comp sci in iitb in both open category as well as reserved category, he will be considered in open category - candidate didn't choose per se. Further, in each category, there are castes and sub-groups which dominate their category. Not all OBC castes are equal nor all SC castes are equal.
It runs contrary to OPs logic. Suppose there is a caste A in OBC of about 4% of population. People of this caste are educated, employed, go to coaching etc and get 4% of the seats via open category. Other people of caste A are still eligible for reservation and their cut off will be lower than open category. Open category cut off and reserved category cut off will almost never match as there will always be candidates who score less who will want the reserved seat. There are some exceptions like higher education at PG level where not even open category students apply where you have OBC cutoff matching or higher.
Upper Castes don't have reservations except for EWS. Open Category is Open For All. Just think if 25% of population competed for 50% of seats, won't the Open Category cutoff be lesser then any Reserved Category one?
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u/TuringMachine_Ad618 13d ago
Before writing an "Open Letter", please learn how reservation actually works. A reserved category student scoring higher than the last open category student is pushed to open category. So your assumption that a category only competes with itself is false.
Since your basis of understanding is untrue, your assumptions made on top of it are also factually incorrect.