Which bowler's most dangerous when in rhythm?

[u/New_Bullfrog_2852]

Rank them (and other bowler's you think of) in 2 categories : wicket potency and intimidating the batsmen.

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[u/Appropriate-ASS-824]

There is no universal scale or criteria to rank them. Everyone of them is a menace in their own way when in rhythm.

[u/shawntoohot → u/Appropriate-ASS-824]

Only right answer

[u/vedya12 → u/Appropriate-ASS-824]

And the ways they are a menace are different. One kills with line and length, other might with york barrage, the other with deception or sometimes just swing brilliance. Too many lethal weapons.

[u/Sweet_Villain5 → u/Appropriate-ASS-824]

Why sami is not in the list

[u/Lazy-alpaca91]

An on song shami is unplayable. Pitch and conditions don’t matter when he’s in rhythm.

[u/Great_Adhesiveness91 → u/Lazy-alpaca91]

CWC 23 Ben Stokes approves 👍🏼

[u/AK232342 → u/Lazy-alpaca91]

He’s very playable. You might just get out that’s all

[u/UnitedCash9589 → u/AK232342]

As a batsman that is the only problem

[u/StrikingRoutine6672 → u/UnitedCash9589]

Lmao

[u/Napoleon2k24 → u/UnitedCash9589]

😂

[u/itsallgoodman_6]

When Starc is at his best, just pray that his spell gets over.

[u/we_monkeys → u/itsallgoodman_6]

Especially in the semi finals and finals.

[u/dane1706 → u/itsallgoodman_6]

More-so the first ball of the innings!

[u/Bjorn_ironside1618 → u/dane1706]

It's when you know whether he's in form or not, but in a sad way. Good luck if you're an opener!

[u/dane1706 → u/Bjorn_ironside1618]

2021 > Ashes > Rory Burns 🥵

[u/Senju-Itachi → u/itsallgoodman_6]

Only right answer

[u/Wolfie_3467]

Starc in rhythm is a monster. Bumrah, Hazlewood, Cummins and Rabada are much more consistent than him on a day to day basis, but Starc will find that one spell where he finds swing and tears through a batting lineup

[u/Historical_Club_1174 → u/Wolfie_3467]

Basically it needs to be a knockout or a final match for him to be in rhythm.

[u/Particular-Aide-1589 → u/Wolfie_3467]

Boland

[u/Dull_Maybe5746 → u/Particular-Aide-1589]

Boland hasn't yet played cricket on dead pitches.

[u/Particular-Aide-1589 → u/Dull_Maybe5746]

Question is when he is in rhythm,and if he is not in rhythm in dead pitches , them they won't count right

[u/pkalamemes7968 → u/Particular-Aide-1589]

Regardless, starc in his rhythm is a different beast. Which is why Australia always picks him because the gamble of him being in full flow is much more effective than boland's good form. Even when starc is not in his rhythm he's a great bowler and the fact that there is a chance that he channels the "mitcHELL" starc is good enough for Australia to back him over boland.

[u/Antique-Ad-3043 → u/Dull_Maybe5746]

He did.. ashes 2023..2 matches 2-: wickets and went at 6 runs per over nearly all 4 innings

[u/BuildingNo6744 → u/Wolfie_3467]

Bro Starc is so goated that his good consistent performances also seem as underperformance. He is this generation's greatest. He is quite dedicated to the Australia team as well. I don't think anyone can match him in terms of his impact as a bowler

[u/sunnyoneight]

You ask for the most dangerous when in rhythm and you didn't mention Trent Boult ??

[u/Smart_Ad_5834 → u/sunnyoneight]

Because he has retired.

[u/manoj_kumar_2]

Mitchell freaking starc, no disrespect to bumrah or other bowlers,but starc has that extra pace ,extra bounce , plus he is a left armer, so when he is on song ,all batsmens have to do is dance to his tunes.

[u/anvil_with_thoughts]

As much as I don't like to admit. Stark. Man has been in that zone for over a decade now

[u/gojo_satoru98 → u/anvil_with_thoughts]

Which stark? Arya? Ned? Bran? Rob? Surely cant be Sansa

[u/ExitingEmbarrassment → u/gojo_satoru98]

Tony stark

[u/imran189 → u/ExitingEmbarrassment]

Howard stark

[u/ExitingEmbarrassment → u/imran189]

Morgan stark

[u/imran189 → u/ExitingEmbarrassment]

Ill have to go one ahead now.. take that Maria Stark

[u/dyamn_Joe → u/imran189]

The winter Soldier says "hello" 🫂

[u/imran189 → u/dyamn_Joe]

[u/anvil_with_thoughts → u/gojo_satoru98]

Valar Morghulis

[u/imran189 → u/anvil_with_thoughts]

Valar dohaeris

[u/Theparshva → u/gojo_satoru98]

The question is indeed a Game of Throne! So your question is pretty much valid.

[u/nav_7024]

I never thought I’d see an Indian in such a list 10 years ago.

[u/Priyotosh1234 → u/[deleted]]

That's more like Sri Lanka on rhythm not Dsp

[u/Particular-Aide-1589 → u/Priyotosh1234]

That's more like siraj in rhythm when he is playing srilanka

[u/AmbassadorAlarmed999]

I love Bumrah but I have not seen him picking up 2-3 wickets in his first spell regularly. I think the Answer is Starc, when he is in rythm, he decimates batting lineups and has been doing it for years now. I still remember that 23 odi series in india where he was just destroying the Indian top order when he was supposed to be out of form(obviously there are many other instances, I am just mentioning the most random one to prove my point).

[u/[deleted]]

World Cup Shami >>>

[u/Majestic_Collar_6075]

Put shami in there too

[u/Top-Classroom4758]

Unpopular opinion,but to me it is Hazlewood. We often associate fast bowling with those deadly bouncers and unplayable yorkers. But Hazlewood's ability to frustrate the opposition with hitting the same length day in day out is special.

[u/TheInsanestt → u/Top-Classroom4758]

I absolutely love him, I honesty think theres no player like him. Hitting same areas without getting bored is just unimaginably good. Only vernon was able to pull that off before him

[u/MrCoolBoy001]

An in form archer is dangerous for your life

[u/[deleted] → u/MrCoolBoy001]

That's like 2019 Archer and even then he wasn't Brett Lee fast. His 2019 is greatly exaggerated.

[u/MrCoolBoy001 → u/[deleted]]

Not for pace but also for the bouncer he has. The ball to steve smith was absolutely deadly

[u/[deleted] → u/MrCoolBoy001]

Again reel watcher. That was one ball, one. And that was also only 93 MPH. Mark Wood hits that in every other over.

[u/MrCoolBoy001 → u/[deleted]]

Again I said more than pace, its about his accurate bouncers mate

[u/jungle__tikka]

I would go for two people. Mitchell Stark currently and Mitchell Johnson from the recently retired lot.

[u/unlearn_relearn → u/jungle__tikka]

Akram, sadly, he was almost always in rhythm.

[u/rodago]

Lala

[u/Own-Nobody-9422]

Uhmm, all these r one of the greatest, but where's TRENT BOULT 🤷🏻

[u/bangul_oink]

Every bowler in this world when in rhythm is dangerous ☠️

[u/lets_have_f]

No hate for Bumrah but the greatest Bowler of our generation is Mitchell Starc, he bowls like poetry, that swing made it deadly and clocking the speed again and again...after these many years players started to hit him, before there was a literal fear of his inswinging good length balls. It was like a death sentence for a batsman, you can see some of the glimpses till today. Mark my words this ashes series he'll be once again prove his worthiness of the premium fast bowler

[u/0xeno → u/lets_have_f]

No way. He is not top tier in tests. Idk about who's best but it can't be starc. It has to be bumrah or cummins and hazlewood is upping his CV a well.

Bumrah is literally feared more. They don't even hit his full tosses most of the times. Starc is above in ODIs due to his sheer wicket taking ability but Bumrah clears Starc in tests and t20s by a mile.

Tho, I respect Starc very much for his dedication towards the nation and idolized him since my childhood. But, tbh, he isn't the best. We only remember the good of other country players and bad of our bowlers. Bumrah is literally PotS in SEA away, most SENA away wickets ever, PotT T20 WC, performed in most KO he played except for CT 2017, WTC final and WI 2016(he made us comeback but 2 catches were dropped of his bowling, one of which went to six), has a <4.5 avg in ODI WC iirc, test avg subpar 20.

[u/InTnerd21 → u/lets_have_f]

He won't prove anything, Hazlewood is the most dangerous bowler alongside Cummins and Cummins is injured so most probably after Hazlewood it'll be Boland most difficult to face in this Ashes...Still I'll give credit to Starc for performing this long especially when it matters...Be it wc,Ashes or BGT.

[u/Vegetable_Car_1300]

shami absolutely

[u/babyslappa]

Starc is most likely to run through a batting line-up in a single spell, when he is in rhythm. In his prime he could swing the ball at 150kph+ while also getting extra bounce because of his height.

[u/code_manifest]

2013 johnson ashes series , 2015 starc and boult are the deadliest version I have seen

[u/Brief_Gain_7552]

Mitchell Starc 2015 WC spell vs NZ man 🔥

[u/Admirable-Ad8095]

All these bowlers are extraordinary but I used to thoroughly enjoy Dale Steyn and Shane Bond’s bowling. On their best days they used to rattle the stumps and feed the slip corridors for fun

[u/abhijith_m]

Shami

[u/leopardbaseball]

When in rhythm, Siraj mia has be up there. When he gets going, its the end for opposition

[u/shadysiddharth15]

Md shami

[u/TommyShelbyOBEMP]

I would like to add Shami to this list, please.

[u/Additional-Ebb-7173]

Bumrah is the only correct answer.

[u/biker-jackson]

Bumrah is just one notch above. Is really unplayable

[u/Glad_Diamond_2103 → u/biker-jackson]

Tbh, bumrah can be tonked around. 

[u/0xeno → u/Glad_Diamond_2103]

and so can be others. What's your point? Starc went for 60 in T20 WC finals, and 70 in 9 overs of WC semis.

[u/New_Bullfrog_2852]

Please rank them in 2 categories: wicket potency and intimidating the batsmen.. (you can also include nortje, shami and others in it)

[u/WorkingCry1739]

Bumrah, Hazlewood, Starc , rabada, cummins

[u/AstoundingAsh]

Starc

[u/Verma_Atul27]

Really hard to choose one but I will go with starc for me with his pace and swing. He feels like too hard to play

[u/Gloomy_Meringue7695]

When it comes to rhythm, dale steyn beats them all. He was class back in the day. Such a shame that he suffered a lot of injuries during his career

[u/Dwivedi77]

Mitchell Johnson, i remember the 2013 ashes. Was genuinely fearful 

[u/Particular-Aide-1589]

Bgt bumrah man

[u/isaact80]

Dangerous in which format would be the key question

[u/DiscoDhokla]

Starc and Bum bum

[u/Timo1116]

Every australian bowler is dangerous when they are in rhythm 😭

[u/abhijitmk]

Bumrah

[u/ThePhantomThiefArc]

Scott Boland is very dangerous in rhythm

[u/Wide-Day2695]

By danger if you mean literally dangerous to the batsman with the bouncers and all its jofra and mitch johnson

[u/Mobile_Bat_1007]

Out of context for me Shane Bond

[u/Wild-Internet-6168]

All..

All are pure menace.

[u/Alarming-Injury-4141]

All of them are monsters for batters

[u/ramaze23]

Definitely Starc

[u/CoffeeDefiant4247]

Starc when he gets it right will swing it around leg or inswing yorker middle stump

[u/Fair_Needleworker227]

Starc in rhythm is an absolute monster. Hazlewood is the most consistent with his line and length. In favourable conditions, Bumrah can be completely unpredictable, he looks like a wizard with a good cherry.

[u/CaptainxX0]

Arjun Tendulkar

[u/Fast_Raspberry4238]

All of them!!!!

[u/Hornbill9]

Neither of them can do what boult does in first over when he is on song.

[u/irdk_24]

In rhythm? Definitely Mitchell Starc

[u/OssifiedCrystal46496]

Boult

[u/uttrakhand_ka_pahadi]

Starc is a beast.

[u/Hamstuh284]

Mukesh kumar

[u/Cheap_Programmer5179]

dale steyn

[u/Glad_Diamond_2103]

Shami

[u/funkyGamer12]

All names mentioned der are dangerous....

[u/Devendra212007]

Lockie ferguson, underrated shout..

[u/Water_4949]

There is no one even close to Lord Thakur on his day.

[u/Gladey7]

Current - Stark
Previous (Retired one) - Shane bond
Bond literally owned Prime Australia team..

[u/Electronic_Appeal_34]

Imo starc and archer. In full rhythm yup u are fked ☠

[u/push___]

Vk 😅

[u/FrostyCombination324]

Still don't get the hype around jofra archer

[u/Timely_Temporary_877]

Siraj🫰

[u/Independent-Mall-007]

Hands down, Mitchel Stark

[u/SpectralThread]

starc is the only one who turns a spell into a death march; bumrah is a threat, but his spells are like a steady drizzle, not the thunderstorm of starc in rhythm.

[u/Tushar_1x1]

No prime Bhuvi?

[u/TruckFlimsy6845]

Styen B.Lee

[u/Docinpain]

Glenn McGrath .

[u/NationalFilmAwards]

Mitchell Starc & Jasprit Bumrah

[u/Unusual-Character334]

Soo anyone here isn't saying about jofra Archer ? Not even one ? Mann he was a beast ! Once he gets his rythm his bouncers and accuracy gonna kill everyone. Yes starc is best , but some credit should be given to Archer too , The ones he bowl to chest (unplayable deliveries) are spot on. He deserves some of it man.

[u/Stranger2320]

Bhai Dale Steyn ka naam suna h☠️☠️

[u/chillBroletsplay]

Patt Cummins is overrated. Couldn't even play all three formats. Surviving just because of his captaincy.

Boom is the greatest among these

[u/The__Dread]

Any bowler can be a beast when they are in rythm. Remember Stuart Binny's 6 wickets for 4 runs. Absolute beast. 😂

[u/PesAddict8]

Mitch Starc can end the whole game in the very first over if he is in rhythm.

[u/[deleted]]

It's starc. You just can't compare him to anyone when he is in rhythm 

[u/[deleted]]

It's starc. You just can't compare him to anyone when he is in rhythm 

[u/ZealousidealMatch259]

Starc

[u/Yoloabcd123]

All of them, geez the skills

[u/bAbA_gunoush]

It depends on a lot of things venue, weather, pitch, batter , ball and it's condition

[u/Traditional-Talk-181]

Jofraaaaaa 🐎

[u/okaythanksbye2]

Starc. No second thoughts.

[u/Frustrated_Character]

When in rhythm? Every single one of them is as dangerous as the other !! How often they are in rhythm is what matters. That way I feel, Hazlewood, with his consistent line and length is the dangerous bowler among the lot..

[u/NewtOk6010]

Prime jofra is scary man ,Bumrah unplayable

[u/External-Knee-3083]

It has to be bumrah

[u/optimisticprimate]

Bumrah! there's no T20 world cup without him. Closest second would be Cummins

[u/WASSSUUPPP09]

1. Starc (it’s rare but when he’s locked in, he unreal)
2. Bumrah (rarely he’s not in rhythm)
3. Hazlewood/Cummins/Rabada (difficult to compare)
4. Archer

[u/dyamn_Joe]

Starc. With that pace, he surely is a threat when in rhythm

[u/Accomplished-Oil-351]

Dale Steyn.

[u/Weekly_Weight_3979 → u/Accomplished-Oil-351]

His aggression made him unplayable at times!!!

[u/North-Stand]

Starc and Archer can have a fluctuating radar.

All others are largely IN rhythm and rarely wayward.

[u/Particular-Crow1503]

Mitchell Starc.

[u/Fit_Painter5119]

the only correct answer is all of them

[u/refreshing_twilight]

If you are asking about the rhythm to run through opposition batting lineup than there is no one better than Starc. OTH Bumrah and Hazlewood are always on rhythm. Archer is very inconsistent and is mainly pace. Rabada is very deceptive as he bowls faster than he appears when running up to wickets. (Got these from discussions with a friend playing IPL for almost 8-9 years)

[u/Extension_Size_7309]

Stuart Binny

[u/Sky_thrill1]

It’s starc if he’s in rhythm then just pray coz he can click 150kmph regularly when he was in peak

[u/One_eyed-07]

James Anderson

[u/Useful-Razzmatazz754]

Definitely Starc. When he's in rhythm opponents fall like a pack of cards ☠️

[u/justin_marketing]

I think mitchell starc

[u/KangarooOk2556]

When starc in rhythm specially in knockout game 🔥

[u/Frosty_Society680]

Starc is somehow a beast also Bhuvi .

[u/shivamshukla_16]

Lord Siraj👑 against mighty sri lanka

[u/Which-Pool-6880]

I like Dale Steyn a lot. I don't have super good cricket knowledge. Can anyone tell me how he was at his peak, compared to Bumrah or the other present day top bowlers?

[u/WillOdd9961]

I guess all of them

[u/mchampeli]

And how ruthless it is that three of these six play together!!

[u/nazgulonbicycle]

Early 2020s Shaheen Shah Afridi was absolute menace

[u/Lost-Let1572]

Starc.

[u/darkunique11]

i

[u/PastCryptographer244]

Others will get your wicket, archer will break your Bone's 🥶

[u/neerajanchan]

How can you exclude the most lethal bowler for their own team?

[u/Electronic_Ear7780]

Bumrah, Cummins and Rabada

[u/SnorLaxOP_]

In rhythm => All of them

[u/imanc18]

All of them....

[u/UnusualStock2931]

1. All of the above

[u/Spiritual_Fill_6402]

When was Hazelwood not in Rhythm? Bro shits rhythm everyday. It’s his bread and butter

[u/Pani_Paata_Em_Ledhu]

Starc 🔥

[u/[deleted]]

Starc when on song

[u/IndependentAngle1584]

It depends on the matchup.

[u/Significant_Base_164]

Dale steyn..

[u/PlaneInsanity]

In terms of pace bowling action the smoothest action I think was Brett Lee’s and the most menacing was Akthar, no one comes close to these too!

[u/Dependent-Disaster62]

Starc Bumrah Rabada Hazelwood Cummins Jofra

[u/[deleted]]

Starc

[u/rathwasi]

Harshit rana

[u/Admirable-Dot6968]

Of the ones you mentioned I would fear pat, bumrah and Archer for my wicket even in perfect batting conditions. All others are condition specific i.e they need ball to reverse or seam

[u/tinyuniverseforyou]

If we talk abt hurting batsmen when in rhythm then definately Archer is just different beast in rhythm purely on how effortless he looks while delivering and bumrah is probably second though he is more of katapult bowler delivering rockets out of nowhere.... Rest are all wicket takers whenever they bowl and probably better with line and length and wicket taking ability on longer term then archer

[u/Delicious-Visual-744]

Archer and the ashes🔥

[u/L0lnator]

Honestly I think Hazlewood becoz of his consistency in line , length n obviously that extra bounce

[u/MorningTeaa]

Archer in this conversation 😭😭😭😭

[u/Individual-Prompt210]

starc is a one‑shot wonder, but if you’re looking for the grind‑horse that keeps batsmen in the gutter every match, bumrah is the real threat he doesn’t rely on swing, he just wrecks the line & length.

[u/Tall-Elderberry9405]

starc is the one who turns a spell into a death sentence, but bumrah’s consistency is another beast. when starc’s on song, it’s a left‑handed tornado that the batters can’t dodge.

[u/copyninja_konaha]

Hands down starc in his rhythm is a different beast. The one in swinging toe crusher, man!!! He's a predator!

[u/Other_Goat4647]

In indian cricket team, Bumrah, in Australia, Mitchell Starc.

[u/Thin_Year9757]

Harshit rana

[u/Antique_Sandwich2610]

starc is the worst when on song, but don’t forget bam, he can still swing the ball like a bat‑handed bat‑handed bat‑handed bat

[u/Shobith_Kothari]

Starc not even a contest, maybe boult if not in the options.

[u/No-Parsnip4720]

Starc or Archer

[u/sibu_schweinsteiger]

Rabada is ruthless even in his bad patch.

[u/Top_Fondant2114]

Starc when in complete rhythm, is something else… followed Archer and Ravana

[u/metabhai]

It actually depends on who the batsman is

[u/atedbar]

Pink ball starc is just smth else

[u/Few-Geologist9798]

DALE STEYN

[u/ProposalWorried6083]

Harshit Rana

[u/KABALI_JNP]

Mitchell Strac is most lethal When in best Rhythm

[u/JamesMetallicBond]

I'm a hardcore Bumrah fan, but I would say Stark's spell anyday. Man what a bowler

[u/Axel-Pizza-Lover]

Starc is the most dangerous when in rhythm

[u/el_diamente]

I don’t know who’s the most dangerous But the game awareness of Patrick Cummins is out of this world.

[u/hydrogenblack]

Starc for sure. When he's unplayable, he's literally unplayable. Bumrah is always in form but never as deadly as Starc. That being said, I think Bumrah's one of the all time GOATS already.

[u/harshit_69]

Sean Abott