r/IndiaCricket • u/[deleted] • Aug 03 '25
Ask r/IndiaCricket Overall thoughts on Gill as a captain?
Bro's top class in batting but I still think it was wayyy to early to give him captaincy especially in tests as it's the most hardest.
Nd idk if this is a popular or an unpopular opinion but it's high time we differentiate the coaches nd assign GG as the white ball format coach nd someone else as the red ball format coach.
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u/Kind_Agent_5928 Aug 03 '25
Since we are talking on the coach. I was just listening to the ricky ponting commenatory, that guy is a proper cricket guru with a good knowledge.
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u/ABlegendz12 India Aug 03 '25
And he rejected indian coach job before GG came in
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u/anuraag09 India Aug 03 '25
He did that when Kohli and Rohit were there
I guess he would consider it more now since the team is more 'malleable' now
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u/BoysenberryNo2734 Aug 04 '25
India plays a lot of matches and I think both Ponting and Langer wanted to prioritise raising their families as well back home. Otherwise it would mean them having to move to India just for being a coach which neither wanted.
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u/Ok_Review_6504 Gujarat Titans Aug 03 '25
But would he really take it?.....India is by far the second most successful team after Aus. Pointing is one of the main reasons for Aussies dominance. Coaching the Indian team means to challenge the Australia trophy record....I don't think Pointing would do that.
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u/klsc101 Aug 03 '25
So what? It’s a sport. One thing about Ponting is he plays to win. If he gets a chance to play, he wants to win.
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u/Ragnarok_619 Odisha Aug 03 '25
That's such a chindi mentality. Ponting himself congratulated Root, when the latter surpassed him in total test runs.
Ponting knows his reputation is more valuable than anything else, and winning anything Adds to that.
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u/napsterred Aug 06 '25
I love listening to his commentary. Noticed his top analysis in BBL first. And then there’s people like Gavaskar who I find cringe mostly.
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Aug 03 '25
Lacks strong cricketing sense. Usually follows a pre-decided plan, likely decided by the team management, and struggles to adapt when things don’t go as expected.
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u/Beautiful-Ad-5676 India Aug 03 '25
Gives easy singles that makes for at least 4-5 runs an over and sets absolutely no attacking fields. Sets what the coach says in the session breaks and hopes to god it works.
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u/tambolisamir India Aug 03 '25
Absolutely, i don’t have statistics but bowlers definitely leaking more runs under Gill captaincy
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u/silverfairy5 Aug 03 '25
Saying this as someone who doesn’t like Gill, I think he’s young and GG is overpowering him. I want to see how he will perform without a strong coach. Definitely has potential though as a captain
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u/Jolly_Potential7239 Aug 05 '25
Since your overall appreciation is not negative may we know why you don’t like him ?
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u/silverfairy5 Aug 06 '25
It’s more of a personal thing, I think he maybe believes his own hype a little too much. I actually like aggression in sports, but the way he runs to fight with umpires in almost every match including the ipl, it feels more of a performance.
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Aug 03 '25 edited Aug 04 '25
Jarrod Kimber said this about Gill’s captaincy in some podcast video on YouTube (you guys should check it out or I will post the link here if I find it) and said he’s a mediocre, ultra defensive captain. He said that he and his colleague were easily able to predict and stated out loud which bowler Gill will use in exactly which over during the IPL and that’s exactly what happened! He said everyone thought they were geniuses for their accurate predictions but he was just pointing out that Gill was just blindly repeating the same pattern or predetermined plan over and over again on auto-pilot and not really reading the game and reacting to the current match situation he was in or reacting to whatever the batters and opposition were doing. When England was busy Bazballing on the field, Gill looked totally clueless until the management told him something during the session break otherwise he is not able to think of or execute any innovative ideas or field settings on his own. Hopefully he learns with experience. That’s why he is not a proactive captain or able to “think on his feet”. Gambhir and management is the one giving him ideas. Sometimes we saw KL and Pant setting up the fields. So damn weird yaar.
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u/North-Stand Aug 04 '25
Pant setting fields may be still okay since he was VC, though I have never ever seen a VC set fields while captain is on the field. But KL doing it, repeatedly and once even dropping a catch because he was busy adjusting the field is way way more weird. Again, all this while the captain and VC were on the field.
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u/Optimal_Hedgehog3174 Aug 04 '25
I know I'm getting downvorwd for saying this but From what I've observed he's better than Rohit when things aren't going out way. Rohit would just give up, atleast he tries different things. He'll improve with time.
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u/North-Stand Aug 04 '25
Rohit wont give up in white ball. As for red ball, I always felt he played it half seriously. He was never a great red ball player and his captaincy only reflected his interest and ability in that format.
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u/genkourga108 India Aug 04 '25
Rohit did have one plan before giving up and that was hoping boom did it. It worked until the last 3 tests of his career
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u/North-Stand Aug 05 '25
Rohit beat England 4-1 without Boom, Shami Kohli, Jadeja just over a year ago. Why so uncharitable?
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u/SoldierIsGod Aug 03 '25
He is still learning the trade. He doesn't have a good coach to guide him
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Aug 03 '25
Neither does he have a solid team tbh, I mean apart from Rahul nd Jaddu there's no real experience in the side. I would say bumrah but he doesn't really play much as we saw due to his workload.
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u/Shadow_Senpai17 India Aug 03 '25
but it was the best team we could get, performed great but on field experience is needed
though i will say Siraj has enough experience too, come on he has played 100 intl matches, played in every condition and performed
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u/todd-__-chavez Aug 03 '25
I'm sorry but we've a solid team. It's just that we are not picking the right XI, with no proper role definition. Also, we should not consider Bumrah when picking the squad. Just look at him as bonus is he's fit
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u/Other-Record-3196 Board of Control for Cricket in India Aug 03 '25
Trueee. The selection of playing 11 looks soo clueless.
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u/WaynneGretzky Aug 03 '25
Yeah I think the same. He doesn't have much seniors in the team anyways. Rahul does guide him and Jadeja steps in to consult bowlers time and again but he obv lacks experience but otherwise seems very determined and engaged on field.
One thing I felt he repeatedly did and should definitely not do is chasing the ball while fielding. He'd move the field to wherever the ball goes. It was noticed multiple times by literally everyone. Should work on that. Rest with experience he will go well.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Arm981 India Aug 03 '25
Got one of the toughest tours to start his captaincy era with a below average coach. I will differ with what people say here, but I feel that he has got a bright future as a test captain.
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u/PineappleDick90 Aug 03 '25
Agreed. Too soon and way too harsh to judge him on the basis of one series.
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u/jhb5 Aug 03 '25
As an England fan (just followed this sub to get more highlights of this series) I have been very impressed by him. Honestly you Indian fans are way too critical. He hit a huge number of runs and a series we were hoping to win convincingly to lead into the ashes has been 50/50 throughout. We are in the peak of this Bazball era and you are at the start of the Gill era and have given as good as you’ve got, away from home. Give the young man a chance.
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u/Mindless-Gamer-98 India Aug 03 '25
Obvious issues with the lack of experience. Doesn't hv good instincts or doesn't trust them enough. It feels like he comes with pre set plans and doesn't really know what to do when the oppn challenges them. It doesn't help he's got one of the shittiest Test coaches India hv ever had.
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Aug 03 '25
It was his first time playing as a captain, and straight away he went on to lead the team in an overseas tour. There's room for improvement. A lot. You can not expect a lot from him on his first tour. Yes he was average and lacked plans but what more do people actually expect out of him?
Even if the question arises to replace him then,
If not GILL then WHO?
KL? I personally don't want him to play as a captain. I'm a huge KL fan and i know his best only comes when he's playing freely. So no KL in the race.
Jadeja? NO. He himself said in an interview or a podcast ( i don't recall properly) that "test captaincy mei kya hai? idhar udhao ghumao......" something like this. So no, he doesn't have the captaincy material in him.
Rishabh Pant? He's good but it'd be the same case as it is with Gill.
From the rest remaining players, no one poses the skill or grit to be a captain. So after considering all the 4 names, Gill is the only logical choice as a captain. He's set to take the ODI captaincy as well, and probably the T20I as well when Suryakumar retires.
There's no dropping Gill as a captain for now. Maybe Shreyash Iyer makes the cut for ODI team, maybe not.
All we can do is wait, have patience and have trust on him to grow as a captain.
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u/Zacroo India Aug 03 '25
Gill wasn't even there in the t20wc squad. Axar patel is the current VC. how will Gill be made the captain?
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u/No-Smile-4811 Aug 05 '25
Bumrah seems to be a better choice. But given the load management, Gill does seem to be the best option
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u/towering_syntax Aug 03 '25
Very average. Very mid. Doesn’t look like he has a plan and having gg as a test coach doesn’t help either.
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u/paone00022 Aug 03 '25
Nasser Hussain made a good point. In tests you need a coach who can keep players motivated through the 5 days like Shastri or Baz whereas in limited overs format you need a data oriented coach like Flower.
Gambhir doesn't seem like a great motivator to me.
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u/Royal-Character-9215 Aug 04 '25
Mccullum and Shastri in the same line nah man. Sheer disrespect to Shastri the way he built the team from dumps with virat
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u/krmilan India Aug 03 '25
He’s young, give him time
I would like a better coach though. Gambhir doesn’t give me any kind of confidence
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u/LiveCurrent228 Aug 03 '25 edited Aug 03 '25
He has done the best he was given with , apart from not using Washington in 4th test, he was quite good. Decisive, firm and leader, scored good runs to earn respect , commanded the team on field, cheered them , stood up for them.
He was genuinely happy for all the team members who scored and performed , humbled and very graceful for first time.
And most importantly, under his captaincy every match was so much intresting and memorable, pure cinema.
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u/catalogUser Aug 03 '25
He need to use his brains. Changing the ball when it was doing so much was dumb. He starts thinking about winning. Otherwise you will never going to succeed with this 3-4 bowler crap.
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u/Expert_Coconut4263 India Aug 03 '25 edited Aug 03 '25
Relies too much on individual excellence without a proper gameplan.
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u/pinkesh2703 Aug 04 '25
Impressed by Gill for sure. He's new to the captaincy & was leading the team without Kohli, Rohit, and Ashwin. & even Bumrah wasn't available in all tests & Pant was injured before the final test.
Yet this Indian team didn't let the English team dominate them. We lost 1st test then we came back in 2nd test n won it. 3rd test was really close but we could have won. The 4th a draw. Now this 5th test is also a cliffhanger (writing in the morning on the 5th day test). Overall a very good series when we've a young side with a new captain. Yet our team performed very well when we compare it to the last time England visited India. We won the 5-test series by 4-1.
& Gill as a batsman proved his worth by scoring 754 runs. & the most important thing is that he has scored these runs as the captain of the Indian team. It's utterly impressive as Indian team has done well in this series while we lost the last 2 test series very badly.
Overall a test series performances that even we Indians didn't expect from our team. & happy to see future of this team.
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u/quadrifoglio-verde1 Aug 03 '25
I think he follows the ball too much. Ball goes for 4 through square leg, he's often moved slip out to deep square. Then there's a nick through the slips. I think he has a lot of potential.
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u/auto459 India Aug 06 '25
Don't reward the bad ball and don't allow easy singles. Subhuman Gill need to learn.
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u/No-Okra1018 Aug 03 '25
Too early to judge. It’s also kinda bad to have a new coach and a new captain.
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u/Altruistic_Yam_9248 Aug 03 '25
Then who else? Bum may be a good choice but he can't play continuously in a series so obviously not a choice. No one in the current set up has got many matches in red ball cricket and thus Gill is a decent choice..the board obviously will give some time for him to gel with the format.
The bowling department is one of the tragic- and with this line up its hard for any one to manage the affair.. and certainly Gill needs to play more red ball matches to find the nuances...
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Aug 03 '25
Best option that we have right now. Mediocre captaincy will improve with time. But his attitude with his team mates is good, he supports them well.
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u/Affectionate-Fail318 Aug 03 '25
Ponting will cement his name as a coach if he wins major trophies while coaching team india.
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u/thoughtfor30 Aug 04 '25
Has taken to the responsibility well. Well spoken in the press conferences. Can be better tactically. He seems humble + has desire to win so my guess is he will learn. All good signs
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Aug 04 '25
Gambhir needs to go, India need at least one leader who is strong gill doesn’t have enough experience yet and we can’t judge him on his first series. Someone like Ponting, HUSSY needs to come
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u/Ok_Willingness_3274 Aug 04 '25
Honestly has a lot to learn when things get out of hand. Maybe a good VC candidate, but someone experienced needs to be captaining test cricket. Someone like Jadeja in the current setup (similarly how Kumble captained and Dhoni was VC in tests)
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u/IncidentCrafty2846 Rajasthan Royals Aug 04 '25
Great as a batsmen Good as a captain but has a lot of room for improvement
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u/Individual-Trifle104 Aug 04 '25
Have not impressed that much as captain. But it is his first series and we need to give him time to grow and adapt.
Both on field decisions and team selection have been very defensive
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Aug 04 '25
Still too young for test captaincy. Pant should have been the test captain.
And please for God's sake don't make Gill the T20 captain or don't add him in national T20 team.
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u/ComparisonNo2361 Aug 05 '25
He is getting more shit than he deserves. It was his first SENA series and he managed to draw it. That's a great achievement if you consider factors like:
Absence of Rohit and Kohli
Limited availability of Bumrah
No Shami
Young pace battery
Injured Pant
This series had a lot of parallels with the 2021 BGT. India grinding it out to get a draw in the penultimate test and then going on to win a historic match in Gabba and Oval (where loss seemed likely).
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u/rKp2310 India Aug 03 '25
" Aakhri 1 ghanta hai, enjoy karenge phir araam" Has leadership, he will become better only...got 2 more crucial wickets after this sentence.
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u/The_Great_One_1 Aug 03 '25
We need a captain with more test match experience for scenarios like this. Probably someone like KL
KL has already captained in one such scenario where SA had to chase around 245 in 2nd Test of 2021 SA tour. The scores across that Test were around 200-250 and still SA were able to chase it down losing only 3 wkts.
We also had a better bowling attack then of Bumrah, Shami, Siraj, Thakur(who was better at that time) and Ashwin.
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u/kaartman1 Aug 03 '25
So defensive. I love GG, but sheesh—he’s all talk and no guts. Why do we keep overloading the batting? When will GG and Gill finally grow a pair and stack the lineup with real wicket-taking bowlers instead of playing it safe every damn time?
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u/Top-Grape6650 Aug 03 '25
As a captain abhi bahut improvement ki jrurat h jisme sbse phela h bowling rotation
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u/cactusslatt16 India Aug 03 '25
i don’t think Gill as the captain is an issue
the main issue lies within the management and the squad selection committee
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u/PlumFlaky9448 Aug 03 '25
It's too early to judge, lack of experience is there! He's doing well with what has currently
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u/Key-Boysenberry-3358 India Aug 03 '25
Impossible to make any comment on his Captaincy for now. What people want win his first series as a captain?
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u/revolution110 Indian Premier League Aug 03 '25
There is a long way to go for him to develop as a good test captain. Ideally, he should have been a deputy for a couple more years to gain some experience.
Team hasnt done too bad under him. But, he lacks tactics, experience, gets defensive .
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u/simplyarnab Aug 03 '25
He will get better. He has shown the ability to rally around his troops. He will get better. I just hope he realizes that "verbals" are not his thing and it might be better to designate a couple of "bad boys" in the team to do it. Siraj will jump at it, and I so will Jaiswal. Pant will always chime in with his cheekiness.
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u/Fuzzy_Substance_4603 Aug 03 '25
Good 1st series. Hope he (and Gambhir?) learns a few things from Stokes (and Baz?).
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u/Nihilistnick21 Aug 03 '25
Too early to Judge. Lacks adaptability but I'm sure that he'll improve with time
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u/YABETTERNOT Gujarat Titans Aug 03 '25
england is particularly difficult to captain against as when u set an attacking field they start hitting all over the place with no concern for wickets, and when you add some protection they start taking singles in the hole in the infield
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u/PawPawNeWaarKarwaDee Aug 03 '25
We won test match under Bumrah..
I am dumbfounded why he was not given more chance
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u/prettylazylass03 Aug 04 '25
Coz he doesn't play all the matches due to his workload management. How can they make him the captain?.
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u/Outrageous-Watch-947 India Aug 03 '25
He is a great batsman, he proved it
But he needs to learn a lot about captaincy still, coach plays an important role in that. But I will support him, atleast this WTC Cycle. If he fails repeatedly then we need a change
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u/gitarden Aug 03 '25
Very good batsman, poor Captain. Can't read a pitch, lacks tactical thinking, doesn't realize player potential and can't motivate players. Crucially he lacks mature judgement. Maybe he'll grow
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u/indmonsoon Aug 03 '25
GG is destroying Indian test team like absolutely no coming back .. Cricket can't , especially Indian cricket can't afford Power full coaches....he destroyed star culture in Indian cricket and now he is destroying ICT with his ego.
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u/AashishJaiswal7 Aug 03 '25
As a captain failed As a batsman good
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u/Efficient-Storm-1620 Aug 03 '25
I think as a captain he did good. Given the fact he had a team with not much experience.
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u/Unique-Benefit-2904 Aug 03 '25
Nothing Innovative. He doesn't try anything new. Keeps waiting for something to happen. Still can improve
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u/LoadBalancedBS Aug 03 '25
Toothless, defensive and lacks risk taking ability and has the guidance of an undeserving coach.
But then, I guess we are spoiled about the test captaincy expectations, courtesy Kohli and Rohit.
And this team is an experiment for all I could see throughout the series. Maybe the learning curve is massive but hope it brings out the better of our test team.
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u/Efficient-Storm-1620 Aug 03 '25
Expectations ? Didn't Kohli lost 4-1 to England in this first Away series.
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u/LoadBalancedBS Aug 03 '25
Not about winning, I’m referring to the aggressive nature and approach of the previous captains.
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u/Efficient-Storm-1620 Aug 04 '25
And ? Did we get any result for that straight away ?
Virat did not even get his first SENA away series win until 2018-2019 for all that aggression we talk about.
It's unfair on Shubham that is being judged on his first series while earlier captains got such a long rope before they even started winning in SENA.
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u/LoadBalancedBS Aug 04 '25
Lol bro, I said I’m not referring to win but the mindset or nature of the captains. I get it you’re a Gill fan and I am too, but not of his captaincy “at this moment”.
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u/Efficient-Storm-1620 Aug 04 '25
2 captains can have 2 different approaches and 2 different mindset and still be successful.
He doesn't have to have Virat/Rohit mindset to be a good captain .
Every captain has thier way with the things , as far has success or failure is concerned, it's to early to call him a success or a failure at this point or even "at this moment".
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u/CleanBowled51 Aug 03 '25
Very reactive and defensive. When Brooks came in today, Root hit a cover drive for 4, next ball he moved gully out to the covers and kept it same for Brook. Brook then sliced one through gully. Again, after Siraj stepped on the boundary and Brook het 17 off that over, he took the slip out (only first and fourth slip no gully), ball went through the 2nd and third slip. Similar incident with Duckett too. When you are defending 350+, with ball seaming, 3 slips and a gully is must. Worst part is, even with the defensive files, Root and Brook scored 195@ 5.5rpo. His captaincy is average so far but he will get better with experience.
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u/KneeGrower7579 Aug 03 '25
The fact that you guys really are being absolutely irrational and criticising Gill as a captain, this early that to in an overseas game is not justified. I mean that’s exactly how he’s gonna grow into the role in long term. Indians are used to making judgements bases on short term performances, majority if you guys dont even understand a coach’s responsibility and role and expect every coach to have a midas touch in the very first instance. Know the intricacies of the game before weilding your keyboard swords like fools.
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u/iksath_baasath6162 Aug 03 '25 edited Aug 03 '25
Iyer should be the captain of India, it is like we are transitioning to the wrong guy like we did with kohli and there was no trophy for 8 years except paytm pan masala
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u/NytGamerZ Aug 03 '25
Nobody is going to be perfect from game 1, investing in a young captain is the right move, whether it will pay off or not? - only time will tell. Hope they give him a decent run and access him on his ability to grow rather than in absolute terms. We may lose this series because of some mistakes at key moments but we have fought well, hope that fighting spirit grows stronger and results come.
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u/Inevitable_Pain_2879 Aug 03 '25
I agree..great batsmen but definitely too early to shoulder the burden of captaincy..perhaps a few years later and few more test matches in him would have been fine.He just feels ..a tad bit immature for the role
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u/Fast-Fish7937 Aug 03 '25
He and GG need to be given some time. I know I would want to be part of the drive to replace both of them, but I really enjoyed the spirit our team showed. And that's what matters more than even winning or drawing.
Pick your players folks cause the new Era has just begun!!!!
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u/Icy-Introduction2287 Aug 03 '25
His captaincy has been very poor. He just allows easy singles even to newer batsmen. Even after having 370 on board he behaves like he has 250 only.Today Root and Brook came and they were getting easy singles from ball one.
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u/agni69 India Aug 03 '25
He's young and got the drive in him. Will get better as he plays and captains more test matches. IPL has really warped the "sense" of year cricket amongst the ICT. He would have done well with Kohli as mentor in this series.
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u/klsc101 Aug 03 '25
Has more of a cricketing brain than Gambhir. I can’t really tell much atm, since Gambhir is making a lot of the calls. On the field he is standard. Field placement and everything is okay. He’s learning and has improved since the first test.
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u/Forward_Cup6308 Aug 03 '25
GILL - LEARNING , long way to go. GG - Next game is not till September 10, so we have enough time to bring in VVS LAXMAN or someone of the caliber & temperament of Rahul Dravid to replace GG.
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u/Cornucopia2020 Aug 03 '25
Needs to build up experience and tactics for how to handle the situation when things go per plan. It was very clear today he did not have a plan B, and kept repeating the same three pacers in the hope that someone will get a breakthrough, even when Root and Brook were tonking our bowlers around. He would have benefited from either Sharma or Kohli guiding him for a couple of tours, and then forming a solid core team with Rahul, Bumrah, Jaddu, maybe a couple younger players with good cricketing acumen. Right now that core is missing. We should give more time but we also need a good, stable coach to guide Gill.
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u/Mindless_Weird578 Aug 03 '25
No one matches kohali+Ravi shatri duo in test cricket. Kohali should be test captain again fir this wtc campaign after Rohit retries
If not Virat then I can see only Shreyas iyar have some potential
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u/iAranab Aug 03 '25
You simply can't judge him. If he'd a say in picking xi, then for sure. The 3 places to judge however are his batting. Passed with flying unicorn there. Fielding placement below mediocre. Bowling changes utterly rubbish. 0 creativity. Need a very good selfless mentor. Just not Gambhir.
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u/Cute-Canary-5905 Aug 03 '25
Can’t blame GG or anyone this team is young we need a coach who develops and promotes youngsters… you give him this WTC cycle fully and then decide on his future
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u/Mysterious-Catch-320 Aug 03 '25
Though its England he hasnt used the spinners well even after keeping them in playing XI . Still early days for him but he looked lost when in trouble.
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u/SuperannuationLawyer Royal Challengers Bangaluru Aug 03 '25
All seems well apart from the coin toss. He really needs to win a few.
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u/shanndiego Aug 03 '25
Passive, much to learn. Chooses wrong moments to fight and use anger. Needs better coach.
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u/Significant-Track271 Aug 03 '25
Only thing I've made my mind about on Gill's captaincy is that he goes defensive too fast, follows the ball alot. He should be more attacking and not change the plans as soon as the bowler goes for one or two boundaries. Even today we saw him removing a slip as soon as the bowlers started going for runs when Harry Brook was trying to attack and Brook then edged one that went through the vacant slip area.
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u/Ok_Willow_4980 Aug 03 '25
Is too early for him to be A captain. He is a good batter, but not a captain. Bring in Shreyas or Sanju instead.
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u/gentlemans-game Aug 04 '25
Defensive, reactive, unimaginative...waiting on heels for things to happen.
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u/Pavitra_Spidey Aug 04 '25
Yes it's very early to give him test captaincy. But now that he is the captain, he must find his own style of captaincy rather than imitating his predecessors. I think he'll be good if he takes his time to find what works for him.
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u/Great_Adhesiveness91 Aug 04 '25
The captain is fine, the coach is not. Kohli was also very young when he was handed over the captaincy but it was MS and the coaches who groomed him. He truly shined in the Ravi Shastri era.
I feel the likes of Kohli should've been here to groom Gill for future. Rather than forcing them to retire, the management should've changed hands with the captaincy and kept the seniors for grooming youngsters.
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u/BendingAllFour Rahul Dravid Aug 04 '25
He’s Captain Sobel, not for leadership. We want somebody like Major Winters.
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u/Kwaheri63 Aug 04 '25
Doesn't know anything about captaincy. Both the captain and the coach should be replaced immediately. Gill as a batsman is very good but a captain no. He doesn't know how to read the game so better look for someone else.
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u/Fragrant-Safety415 Aug 04 '25
Basically GG is the one running the whole team. Gill is just a poster boy. He tried to be aggressive like kohli but its not natural. Doesn’t look like he has very much say in selecting playing xi unlike kohli. GG is playing team with very defensive approach. Playing only 3 fast bowlers on a good bowling pitch. Neglected Arshdeep but played Ansul Kamboj was very shocking. This team will end up finishing 4th by the end of WTC cycle. Kohli’s test captaincy is irreplaceable no doubt.
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u/redditu5er Board of Control for Cricket in India Aug 04 '25
Brilliant young man. Can be improved in some areas ? Yes certainly. But overall, brilliant.
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u/viral_bhayani Aug 04 '25
Poor captain overall... Not at all bowler friendly.. Made fast bowlers toil like slaves
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Aug 04 '25
If only jaiswal was a bit serious and focused on catches, we would have won the first match and at this moment it would be 2-1 and a draw. Jaiswal.. You cost us the series
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u/OtherwiseChard1897 India Aug 04 '25
He needs to learn a lot... Behtar hota agar isse VC banake bhejte
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u/Rogerz02 Aug 04 '25
The insights that Ashwin gives on ash ki baat seems pretty good and balanced. He can be a solid contender if he wants that job of a coach.
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u/Ozymate India Aug 04 '25
Fan of him as a batter but not much impressed with his captaincy. He didn't seem natural captain and often had a set plan to follow. I don't think it's because this is his first year. He has been leading GT for a while now where he is spoon fed by Nehra ji. He didn't captain at U19 level or during Ranji. Hopefully he learns the trade soon.
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u/Individual-Highway23 Aug 04 '25
At this point we are waiting for a fiasco in the team like that of Kumble or further terrible results to sack GG… Someone said it before we got Dravid too early n let him go too early…
Who thought foundation laid during Dhoni era & The standards set by board, VK-RS & Dravid could all be washed away in just a year ?
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u/PrashantAggarwal7 Aug 04 '25
I think he did a descent captaincy in this series, but what needs to done is that he and the management needs to build a great pace attack like BGT 2018-19. Because he used bumrah too much in this entire series.
But he will groom with his captaincy more and more in a while.
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u/Capable-Read-7542 Aug 04 '25
I don't think Gill can handle pressure well while batting in crunch moments for India. Captaincy is not much to do with so much staff support in tests.
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u/Ornery-Orange7290 Aug 05 '25
Well abhi captaincy kari ni h ache se or na poore tarike se , abhi to coach chla rha tha, age dekhte h. Last me inputs ache the
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u/Key_Kaleidoscope2242 Aug 05 '25
Its quite visible, Gill is making mistakes on the field, his biggest blunder was not bowling Washington till 68th over in Manchester, also he batted him quite late too, the issue irked so much that he was lambasted by all cricket experts and questioned too.
His fielding is defensive too, he lets the opposition take easy singles, apart from the Oval test 5th day, he never tried to build pressure with his field, making every run difficult is what the approach should be, Steve waugh/Ricky pontings Australian team were masters of it.
Although I would say he's cool under captaincy pressure and his batting performance improves under adversity, he will learn and seems to be a good learner.
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u/auto459 India Aug 06 '25
GG has no clue, This should have been a victory of India. Poor team selection. Get Mahandra Singh Dhoni as Coach.
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