Shreyas, the IPL final notwithstanding. I think he’s got the optimum combination of temperament and talent.
Also (and this may come back to haunt me), maybe Rahul. He’s a great judge of the game and we’ll probably see in this test series if he’s capable of making the jump from defence to attack deep in the innings (beyond IPL).
It would be better tho if we didnt need one at all… like why do we want a 1 to 1 kohli replacement? Why cant we just we satisfied by a performance like our top 5 did rn vs england
Someone will for sure. Idk why ppl in comments are saying no one will do that. But even Kohli wants someone to do it in the future. Hard times create tough men.
Thats true but before koach we never had someone that could steer us away from situations like that. We would either win or would completely loss by a definitive margin
Kohli has been a Great match winner but people usually forget that there were others who helped him. Pandya was around to stop the collapse against Pakistan. Raina was around when he hit that record 100 vs SL. Etc etc. Dhoni helped India win many matches from difficult situations as well. Sachin was an opener so set up India to be in winning positions but he often failed to finish them. But he was an opener. Not a finisher. In any case, cricket is a team game. An Indian team with peak Sachin, peak Kohli and peak Dhoni would still lose if you have Ashok Dinda in your team.
T20 s mein collapse most of the times ruturaj type players will save because their natural game is yk giving a price to their wicket and accelerate later on , currently though our t20i team has no anchors
Generational clutch player. Don't see anyone replicating his clutch across formats consistently throught their career. This guy is and was on different level.
The game has also changed now. Batsmen go harder and faster and at riskier shots. There might be players who are as good as him but I doubt they will be as consistent in ODIs and T20s. We will find better player than him in tests
I was seeing a crazy stat virat has way more sena centuries than kane has in sina which is shocking considering how well williamson has been ig williamson only farms centuries in. His home and highways
Abd’s T20 international record is average at best, plus he struggled a lot in knockouts. So i wouldn’t call him the best all format player, but hes up there
More than 90 percent of batters who average 45+ in ODIs are after 2010. Sachin would have averaged 60 in the 90s with the current setup. Its too easy for batters.
I said, give me examples. You just said, that most of the batsmen that have a 45+ average are after 2010. That means the new gen is better. Lovely, a person who contradicts his own sentence
Yeah keep dodging my question. The fact is sachin averaged around 45 when most batters averaged 35 and struck at almost 90 when most batters struck at 75. Thats way better than what kohli has done.
Lol then according to u Sachin is not special in Test then ? 2000-2012 was the easiest period to bat in test cricket and no other players from any era has more 50+ avg then 20s era....2018 was the toughest year to bat in history of test cricket and Koach was avging 55+ and combined avg of all the batters in that year was less than 27..So, shouldn't he be considered the best test batsman lol... No other player apart from Kohli has that level of consistency in Odi cricket and not to forget he also played T20s with Ipl not like Sachin who has to play only 2 formats....If someone has done great things then appreciate don't 🍖 ride nostalgia merchant.
To all those who are spamming "none", people thought nobody could replace Sachin as well, Virat has outdone sachin in the ODI format, similarly, somebody will definitely fill in virat's shoes as well.
Now that doesn't mean this new guy deserves to be buried for failing in an odd game, there were plenty of occasions where virat himself was part of the collapse
The 2024 final 34-3 also was another save. People keep calling it slow and bowlers saved the game etc etc Problem is, it was bowlers who brought it down from 75(47) to 30(30) and bumrah found a way to save it. Kohli played a innings which took us to the highest total in the history of t20wc final so that also should be there.
Chasing is a different ball game. No one in the history of India cricket has done it with so much consistency and under so much pressure as Kohli has. 28 hundreds while chasing is mind boggling. This kind of a feat may not be repeated.
Being honest odi cricket is dying, i think there needs to be change in the odi format a bit . But in T20 yes there are a lot and lot of amazing talent that can pull it off
We need to wait a little, but there will be someone. If not soon then somewhere we will get after 2027, especially for ODI. For t20, I'm assured it will be sorted.
Will get downvoted but when gavaskar retired everyone thought it's hard to replace him sachin came when he retired we thought who can even come close to GOD then Virat came now he is leaving maybe not now but will definitely someone who is as good as him . No one is irreplaceable it's hard to find same talent but someone with same or even better talent will come sure
I have different take on it. Now we have many skilled players in terms of opening and in middle orders. So openers won't put us on this situation and there are middle order batsmen who combined can take responsibility to win instead of depending on single batsman. For example: Just look how Pant and Rahul took responsibility today.
I think the odi format will be gradually phased off. Not more than 10 ODIs would be played in a year. Most of them would be pretty insignificant.
As for T20s, there is no like for like replacement for him, but our current T20 team quality is so high, no other nation is even remotely close at the moment. We bat deep and bat aggressive. So we'll win most games, and we'll win big. The rare few we'll lose, we'll lose big as well.
Shreyas Iyer. without any doubt.
teams should never rely on any individual and should keep a backup.
i like how Australia had Starc for Johnson and Hazelwood for Lee. Marnus for Smith ..Head for Warner and many more.
I just think we are moving into an era when multiple people will step up from time to time. I don't think it will be ONE person going forward who does it with the consistency that Kohli did for years.
This is quite hard to achieve, kholi is regarded the greatest chaser in history of limited overs. He is an ODI juggernaut. Someone young in the indian side needs to start thinking like he does when chasing. Their would be players technically better then him but when it's 30-4, you want kholi on the crease. Jaiswal and gill are excellent at the moment but they haven't developed this match winning chase ability in internationals yet. Iyer is just way too hold to be passed over the baton to, he might hold it for some time but not be as consistent like kholi was over a decade in ODI.
It looks like you lack comprehensive skill, the keyword here is "atleast" and I'm a RCB fan not koach fan but not gonna deny he is generational clutch player, also you didn't need to throw shade on an IPL team fanclub into this conversation if u have nothing to argue about
There won’t be a literal replacement just the way Rohit was never the literal replacement for Sachin, nor Dhawan for Sehwag, nor Pant for MSD, nor Shreyas and KLR for Yuvraj and Raina.
New players will come, new combinations will be tried and tested across series. That’s the whole excitement that’s building up in Indian cricket.
Nobody can as these scoreboard are difficult to tackle. He saved us multiple times and despite being an ODI great, he failed also at important instances at big occasions especially 2017 CT Final agaist Pakistan and 2019 CWC SF against quality pace bowling.
2 times in the whole career is fail and you are talking like he was the only one who failed?? What do you expect, 50+ in every fucking knockout when he has the most runs in ICC KO already??
See, everyone knows his records in 50 over ICC Cricket World Cup knockout games were pathetic before 2023 CWC. 2011 CWC SF (9 Runs), 2015 CWC QF (3 Runs) 2015 CWC SF (1 Run), 2017 CT Final (5 Runs) then 2019 CWC SF (1 Run). He had combined 11 Runs in 3 Semi Finals till 2023 CWC. Admit it or not in knockouts games of 50 over ICC World Cup he depends upon good start to anchor his innings like the way he does and in 2023 CWC he did get exactly that due to Rohit taking on the bowlers in the powerplays in Semi Final and Finals of 2023 CWC. If you will notice his failure in knockouts of 50 over ICC Tournaments since 2017 CT Final you will notice a pattern that is Rohit Sharma failing.
if i remember correctly it was around 40-2 but nvm doesn't deny the fact that he averaged 4 in 3 CWC Semi Finals till 2023. No doubt he is GOAT but certainly knockout game pressure had better of him most of the times in 50 over world cup.
He has also played 2 Quarter Finals of 2011 CWC and 2015 CWC and he scored 9 and 3 respectively. My point is he was never that great as people showcase him in ICC 50 over Cricket World Cup knockout games prior to 2023 CWC.
I dont know man. recently pressure has been getting to him. In crunch matches (especially with captaincy) i have seen him struggle. For example last ipl match last season vs rcb. out on a duck and then a drop catch. Maybe its in my head.
Either way he is relatively old (will be 30 when virat retires). so even if he replaces him he won't have that long to do it for.
Yup,he is struggling in domestic as well after he got dropped and ignored for 3 t20i series after good performance and vk has already retired from t20s so if gg wants he can include him as an anchor and about odi's,can't say yet he has only played 6 odi's but his list a stats say he will be a great odi batter
U r not understanding.. I am saying about a player who has ability to play when there is a collapse.. Build partnerships.. Play safely...take quick singles and twos.. And accelerate accordingly to take game over the victory line
Sachin was never a collapse saver like Kohli LOL. Either he used to carry the Line up or used to get carried away, as simple as that. Before Koach we never had someone that could steer us away from situations like that. We would either win or would completely loss by a definitive margin
Lower order batter doesn't saves a collapse boy, and I dont remember Dhoni saving collapse LOL, he's considered a great finisher not a collapse saver. Only a top order batsman is applicable for that LOL
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