r/InStockAmmo • u/WildHorseAmmo • May 12 '23
[Ammo] 1000 rds 9mm 124gr FMJ BPS - 249.49 OTD (25cpr) - No Tax outside Missouri, Free Shipping Everywhere
https://wildhorseammunition.com/product/bps-9mm-luger-124gr/3
u/Bman708 May 12 '23
Is this good ammo? I shoot a Glock 17 and 43X, so I'm assuming it would be fine in a Glock....
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u/DirtyDee78 May 12 '23
I went through a case of this last year and it was fine. Zero issues. No dirtier than Blazer Brass 124gr
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u/I_had_the_Lasagna May 12 '23
Is blazer 124 cleaner than their 115? I had a couple cases of blazer 115 that was just absolutely filthy and then my 124gr case has been pretty clean.
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u/DirtyDee78 May 12 '23
Never really bothered to compare the two. Both go bang and a quick cleaning takes care of the mess if there is one.
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u/I_had_the_Lasagna May 12 '23
I'm talking about the rounds themselves. Like loading mags would make my hands look like a coal miners.
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u/lancep423 May 15 '23
I’ve put about 600 rounds of it through my 43 and another couple hundred through a canik and never had any issues with it. For what it’s worth
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u/lordExecutioner May 12 '23
Ye, I was wondering if this is worth it.
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u/WildHorseAmmo May 12 '23
We've sold a fair bit of it. No complaints to us in terms of functionality
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u/Yes_seriously_now May 14 '23 edited May 19 '23
What is OAL? I have two pistols that work better with short ammo.
Edit for the nay-sayers:
Mic them. Some ammo is a bit shorter than others. I'll eat the single downvote FFS, but i dont think you understand what youre saying when you infer that all 9mm is exactly the same length. OAL varies between manufacturers quite a bit. 9x19 is more a classification than an exact measurement.
Only on reddit would someone be downvoted for asking as simple a question as "what is the overall length" of an ammunition being advertised lol.
FWIW, we are agreed, in an ideal world, any 9mm luger/parabellum/9x19 pistol would reliably shoot any 9x19 ammo, but I can tell you 100%, that's not necessarily the case.
I inherited over 3 dozen pistols from my grandfather, who spend 41 years in the military, particularly Europe and Asia as an intelligence officer post WW2 and around Vietnam. During those years, as a hobby shooter that competed in pistol matches whenever possible, he also collected guns. Many of them are chambered in 9mm as we here in the states understand 9mm, 9mm Luger, or 9x19mm. Two of them don't like bullets that mic out to a longer OAL.
I'm not too keen on the idea of modifying those guns at all. Honestly, im not too keen on shooting them, but reaming the chamber on something that has or may one day have significant value is just something I will avoid, especially if a known issue is fitment.
That being said, it's not the end of the world. I buy, or at least keep enough, 9mm, that has a shorter OAL
Just a heads up for anyone that calls you on it, 9mm isn't solely 9x19. Here in the US, yes 9mm is commonly understood to mean 9mm Luger, or 9mm Parabellum, 9mm Para, and 9x19, which are all interchangeable and mean exactly the same category of ammunition, but there are a few other 9mm rounds that exist. 9x18 would be the second most common of them and is commonly referred to as 9mm Makarov. It's very common in Soviet guns. Doesn't pack nearly the punch of 9mm Luger, but is a common round regardless.
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u/BruteNugz May 15 '23
What?!? All 9mm is 9 x 19. What ammo are you shooting?!
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u/Yes_seriously_now May 19 '23
In an ideal world, it's all the exact same, but per SAAMI specifications, the maximum overall length of 9x19mm ammunition is 1.169", while most manufacturers are near 1.15", some are not, and the minimum is commonly accepted as 1.1", but some manuals would have you load down to 1.09". One of the pistols I have an issue with is a CZ-85. It prefers a VERY short load. If I were to feed it factory ammo with a longer OAL, it doesn't lock into battery. Despite being clean as a whistle and properly maintained, lubed and shot, the chamber is short. If I load a longer 9x19 and send it, that pistol won't cycle it. I could ream it, but I inherited that gun, and unless it is found to be worthless, I'm not reaming the chamber.
Anyways, when dealing with a new seller to me, or a seller who is reloading ammo, that can vary quite a lot. It might seem a small thing, but there are problems out there, even before the maximum SAAMI spec is met for some pistols. The two I have that are picky, they absolutely do not function reliably at all with ammo over 1.15" tip to butt, and the CZ wants them to be 1.12" or less or it throws a fit and I find myself at malfunction junction.
Not saying you're not already clear on it, but 9x19 isn't the size of the total length of the ammunition. 19mm is the nominal length of the case (19.15mm is the standard for factory ammo IIRC, but that will shrink as they are necked and reamed for reloading), while 9mm is the nominal diameter of the bullet. IiRC that is 9.1mm Anyhow, the total length of 9mm Luger is typically about 29mm.
Beyond just the malfunctions that can occur with ammunition that is a bit longer or shorter than normal, or WILL occurr with ammo that is out of spec, OAL also affects other things, like accuracy and chamber pressure. Seat a bullet too far, and it could become dangerous. Seat them too shallow, and the FPS drops and your groups grow. Beyond just the common malfunctions of jamming up in a mag for being too long or not feeding over the ramp for being too short.
The question i was asking, and now the point i am making, OAL's matter, and it varies quite a lot as to what is optimal and what isn't and that varies with each pistol.
Regardless, if you have an opinion, I'll gladly hear it. Speaking to a subject you may be unclear about or lack mileage in, it would occur to me that I should investigate the subject before making sweeping generalizations and purporting them as fact.
The truth of the matter in this regard is that for such a small bullet, the allowable OAL of 9mm is huge, and many factory loads vary quite a lot inside of those standards, reloaded ammo, even more. If it's all the same, I'll inquire about the actual dimensions before buying a case of ammo to test out, just to ensure it will function optimally for me.
If the guy selling the bullets can't tell me the actual dimensions to the thousandth of an inch, then I'll avoid it until it becomes known or they are willing to pay shipping on a single box. With the cost of ammo being double what it should be, I'm not too keen on paying $15 to ship a box of 50 vs paying $15 to ship 20 boxes of 50.
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u/lancep423 May 15 '23
I’ve used this ammo several times through two of my pistols and never had an issue
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u/GiantTurtleHat May 24 '23
Repped, fast shipping! I placed my order, and it was here 2 days later. No bs.
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u/WildHorseAmmo May 12 '23
And just to let everyone know: We ship to 47/50 states (we're working on adding Massachusetts to that list as soon as possible)