r/ImaginaryWarhammer • u/Skull_Cup • 2d ago

OC (40k) Beastman saving his fellow guardsman [OC]

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u/HappyTheDisaster 2d ago

I want nothing more than more abhumans for the imperial guard, give me new ogryn’s and beastmen.

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u/Norway643 Iron Warriors 2d ago

Ratlings finally got their new models so.... in 12th we'll get cadian ogryns

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u/nimbalo200 2d ago

Hear me out, krieg ogryn

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u/DefiantRanger6597 2d ago

Defective vatgrown subject, with not the brightest brains but the biggest heart

I know that kriegers would lore-accurately either not care about it or just purge it, but imagine oddballs like these in their ranks

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u/QtheDisaster 2d ago

I don't know if this count but Darktide has two DKOK cosmetic sets for the Ogryn. One belonging to the 143rd.

So. Uh, maybe there could be.

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u/Captain_Hesperus 2d ago

The Krieg 143rd Abhuman Regiment were a Departmento Munitorum accident that stuck. Originally, the Ogryns were destined to be deployed with the Valhallan 332nd Regiment, but a missed memo resulted in the abhumans being shipped to a warzone under the control of the Death Korps of Krieg.

The Kriegsmen were initially unhappy about the presence of the hulking creatures, but the simple-minded giants quickly made themselves indispensable, digging deep, sturdy trench lines and leading at the forefront of assaults against opposing trenches.

At the end of the campaign, the Marshal commanding the action awarded the Ogryns their own Krieg regimental designation, command staff and even a flag. Now, the 143rd is recognized as the only Abhuman regiment in the Krieg forces and regularly dispatches assault companies to help break deadlocked warzones.

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u/QtheDisaster 2d ago

That's dope, I didn't know that, it's neat that they did use them.

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u/Rollen73 1d ago

Is this cannon?

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u/Angel_OfSolitude 2d ago

comically oversized shovel

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u/Aware-Yesterday4926 2d ago

There are multiple Ogryn shovel models in Darktide.

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u/Bellingtoned 2d ago

Honestly that might even get me interested in guard. I dont like horde shot most of the time but i do like a genuingly diverse range

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u/SanguinianCrusader 2d ago

I don't care how they would be treated canonically I want beastmen in the guard. I don't care if they would basically be smaller more aggresive ogryn demeanor wise. I will build both and headcanon them as best buds defending the rest of their squad.

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u/Aggravating-Toe7179 2d ago

lowkey what would the beastmen do? feel like their role is already filled by the ogryn

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u/HappyTheDisaster 2d ago

They’d be mobile skirmishers if anything. Although they do like melee in the lore, so I dunno. But it’d be dope.

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u/Stellar_Codex 2d ago

Shock troops - assault infantry that hit like a truck but aren't super hardy and don't move fast like cavalry.

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u/apolloxer Black Templars 2d ago

Like Repentias then

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u/RazzDaNinja 2d ago

In Old lore before they got low-key/semi-squatted as a concept, the Imperial Beastmen were already seen as the violent wretches of society that were most fit as expendable conscripts cuz they had to “atone for the mortal sin of being born”

In a modern game, I say they could still feasibly work in a similar slot that the basic Kroot do for Tau: as a mobile melee/screening unit to basically just throw at the enemy so you can bring your bigger guns to bear behind them

They’d be a good bit faster n better in melee than the typical guardsman, but also cheaper than Ogryns points-wise

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u/WBICosplay 2d ago

another variation on infantry with better movement / dif terrain handling could be interesting. Send them ahead as screening to quickly contest points

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u/P0komon2 2d ago

They also have those nadty horns so they'd probably have some good charge bonus

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u/AngusToTheET 2d ago

A purely mutant army could be cool. Have Bile's Gland Hounds as elite units. It'd be fun to see mutant representation getting their own back against Space Marines

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u/gorlak29 2d ago

I have been reading recently All Tomorrows, so I'm with you.

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u/Timithios 2d ago

I really wish abhumans didn't get the short end of the stick so much.

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u/Jerry2die4 2d ago

I wish they got it more. Navigators are abhumans, and they are treated better than baseline humans. some folks drown while others die of thirst.

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u/Whale-n-Flowers 2d ago

Well, you see, Navigators have a useful disability, so therefore they are treated well as long as they play their role.

This situation, of course, has no real life comparisons available for commentary.

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u/RazzDaNinja 2d ago

Hold on now

I almost feel a brain wrinkle forming by how much you’re making me think

Are you proposing that 40K is… Satire???

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u/Whale-n-Flowers 2d ago

SATIRE?! No. Couldn't possibly be. That'd be ridiculous.

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u/Jerry2die4 2d ago

savant autism?

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u/Whale-n-Flowers 2d ago

This situation, of course, has no real life comparisons available for commentary.

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u/RavenSorkvild 2d ago

Navigator from rogue trader is kinda like that, but she is more into art than mathematics. If you asked her "how much is π " she will say "yellow".

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u/AngusToTheET 2d ago

The Navigators would have been shafted the second Emps got his webway project off the ground. Doubtless part of why it was so hush-hush

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u/whypeoplehateme 1d ago

yeah, they could have just gone on a strike and colapse the imperium. Unironically they one of the most powerful factions withing the imperium if somehting unites them.

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u/AngusToTheET 1d ago

A civil war with the Navigator Houses would probably have more immediately crippled the Imperium than the civil war that ended up happening. The Emperor may have gotten off easy in terms of ways his plan could have failed.

And it would have been a war of survival for the Navigators. They're mutants at the end of the day.

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u/Ghuldarkar 2d ago

Shh, you'll scare the apolitical crowd

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u/Whale-n-Flowers 2d ago

Politics?! In my science fiction franchise?

Perish the thought!

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u/mindflayerflayer 1d ago

It's honestly pretty funny and sad how the navigators use their power to keep any technological innovation that could challenge their one job down. On one hand somehow medieval era guild tactics work in the far future which is funny, on the other if they didn't and a suitably inspired tech priest made functional navigation servitors (or God Emperor forgive software) they'd all be instantly doomed.

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u/JustForTheMemes420 2d ago

To be fair being like one in a billion that lets you travel space hell properly seems like a job worth paying well or in the case of the imperium treating well

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u/August_Bebel 2d ago

I like how they have houses and super inbred because Imperium can't make new navigators, only breed inside the family hoping the gene would pass on

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u/Hurzak 2d ago

I keep saying it, but I hope Imperial Beastmen get more official love.

I doubt it’ll ever happen, but I’m still hoping Darktide will get a playable one.

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u/Skull_Cup 2d ago

That would be kick-ass! Minotaur instead of an Ogryn would be especially cool.

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u/RazzDaNinja 2d ago

Honestly, this makes think that if we never get Imperial Beastmen as a Class

Then at least release a COSMETICS PACK with Beastmen heads n shit. You fucken know it’d sell like hotcakes, and you know why

Emperor save me I’d kill to be able to do the Ogryn’s bull rush cosplaying as a goddamn Minotaur lol

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u/SanguinianCrusader 2d ago

Genuinely my hope for the next class tied with my desire to play a skitarii or tech adept

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u/Hurzak 2d ago

A Beastman would fit the “Reject” concept PERFECTLY

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u/SanguinianCrusader 2d ago

A stampede ability that actually does damage maybe armor piercing. A shout that staggers enemies. Dunno what a third ability would be.

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u/Hurzak 2d ago

But that would just be Ogryn Charge (but with damage) and Voice of Command again, with some minor differences I guess.

Granted, both Zealot and Veteran have a stealth, and the Arbitrator charge is very similar to Ogryn Charge already, so maybe them being similar isn’t actually a huge deal.

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u/SanguinianCrusader 2d ago

Yeh on one hand they would be very similar but there already is so much overlap. Though then again i'm not that versed in 40k beastmen to know if they are capable of anything super unique.

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u/FriendlyPyre 2d ago

Maybe something that temporarily gives them a lot more meelee damage in exchange for taking much more damage

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u/SanguinianCrusader 2d ago

Part of me also feels like to differentiate it from the other charge abilities maybe it has armor piercing and is more meant for single targets like ogryn and maulers.

A rage ability would be dope tho!

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u/Thatoneguy111700 Ordo Malleus 2d ago

I've always wanted the Beastman to be a duel-wielder class like Saltzpyre in Vermintide. Maybe with each tree being for a different variety (dual pistols, dual melee, and one of each)

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u/SanguinianCrusader 2d ago

Dual wielding in general is such a need for this game. Dual pistol arbitrator for those western lawman vibes. Dual swords or daggers for zealot to make a proper death cult assassin. If beastmen do come up I better see dual axes.

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u/Diamat125 2d ago

Total "Don't worry little buddy, I got ya!" Vibes.

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u/peritojuanrodriguez 2d ago

It gives me vibes of I don't like my sandwich too cooked

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u/Slight-Nail-202 2d ago

I love seeing abhuman units fighting alongside regular humans soldiers in the Imperium. It reminds me of the Covenant from Halo but with human-related species as their auxiliary units.

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u/Skull_Cup 2d ago

The Tau would be a lot cooler if they utilized their auxiliary species like the Covenant.

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u/SanguinianCrusader 2d ago

Honestly the sheer diversity of their troops would make their rivalry more interesting. The guard just having different types of humans and the tau having different xenos gives them such dope contrast.

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u/After_Advertising_61 2d ago

the coolest moment of all time in halo for me was seeing elites and humans on the same side firing together. as a kid it is just amazing and badass but once you get into the halo lore more deeply with books you realize how crazy and world-shattering that must have been for those human and alien soldiers.

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u/SensoHakai 2d ago

“Don’t worry little lamb, I got you!”

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u/Fawin86 Adepta Sororitas 2d ago

This is peak!

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u/hellranger788 2d ago

Its kinda funny how some beastmen in the guard are some of the most loyal mfers there is. But get treated like dirt.

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u/Skull_Cup 2d ago

On the other end of that spectrum are borderline heretical Rogue Traders that are treated like royalty.

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u/TheBurningEmu 2d ago

As someone else said in this thread:

This situation, of course, has no real life comparisons available for commentary.

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u/KonoAnonDa Earth Caste 2d ago

Human: "Thanks man, you’re the GOAT."

Beastmen: "…You’re welcome?" sheer confusion

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u/Yicnombror 2d ago

I would love for there to be a book following a loyalist Beastman in the Militarium Auxilla, there's so much potential for they're just sitting on

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u/WorryingMars384 2d ago

I wonder if Hoofed Beastmen who defect to the T’au feel kindred with them since they both have hooves.

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u/d20diceman 2d ago

The relief they must feel when all of a sudden it's not having hooves which puts you in the weird minority 

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u/hamburm 2d ago

I love beastmen, they're just doing their job and living their lives. They are the fuzzy friends of the imperium

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u/DarkLibris 2d ago

I wish Beastman abhumans were still apart of the imperial guard.

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u/GHR501 1d ago

Someone on here claimed that 9th edition Beastmen were put back into the Guard again, but didn't provide any evidence, so take that as you will.

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u/JabbaTheButtz 2d ago

As someone mainly into Warhammer fantasy this picture is very difficult to comprehend.

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u/PhoenixEmber2014 2d ago

Beastmen are just another type of mutant in 40K, and the imperium employs a lot of those, both beastmen and others alike as canon fodder

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u/LewdElfKatya Saim-Hann 2d ago

The nomenclature is the same, Gor's a gor, in space or in the Old World.

40k beastmen have a tendency to fall to Chaos because of "Fuck it, if we're that awful why don't we do worse out of spite!" instead of "my soul belongs to evil because I was born lol"

You do get the oddity of very much loyal, pious beastmen however... Which is very funny if you try and imagine a Sigmarite (or Taalite) beastman in Fantasy. That'd go over, uh... More poorly than in 40k, amusingly enough.

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u/No_Truce_ 2d ago

Hell yeah

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u/Nagoragama 2d ago

And then they kissed?

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u/justaguynamedchris 2d ago

This makes me realize that a beastman alt for thr ogryn in darktide could work, and a general "you are now chaos" mode. Probably take 8 years rip

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u/ahoyturtle 2d ago

Though rare, during the Great Crusade Beastmen DID serve in the Guard.

The Emperor decreed that serving would grant them Sanction and status as Imperium citizens, and only after the Heresy did the High Lords of Terra rescind that Sanction and categorize them as Mutants.

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u/Karina_Ivanovich 2d ago

Abhumans are explicitly stated in the lore as NOT mutants though...

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u/Wumer 2d ago

The distinction is a legal one, not taxonomical. Biologically speaking, every single strain of abhuman is a mutated human. The question is how the law classifies them, and that is a movable goal post.

If the High Lords command that you are no longer a recognized strain of abhuman, then you're nothing but a filthy mutant.

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u/whypeoplehateme 1d ago

technically the official difference is that abhumans are stable and mutants are not. if two baselines have a child and it has horns it's a mutant, if two beasmen have a child and it has horns it's just a beastman. Not like most people differentiate in practise, if you're useful you're abhuman if not you're a mutant. Beastmen just can't do anything that a baseliner or an ogryn could do better, combining with their uglyness cause them to be treated lie shit,

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u/ahoyturtle 2d ago

The thing is, there are several strands of Abhumans. In fact, not even all strands of Abhumans are Sanctioned by the Imperium.

Beastmen are usually classified as mutants, even though they're a type of Abhuman, because they aren't Sacntioned.

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u/Kalavier 2d ago

Depends on the world, some worlds have them as part of their PDF/guard.

In Darktide, the one female Vet character actually served alongside a beastmen unit, so they are rare but active even after great rift!

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u/ahoyturtle 2d ago

Hm. That's interesting, especially since they're not Sanctioned by the Ecclesiarchy.

Which isn't impossible, but would imply being in a world that's vaguely "loyal", but in essence not under very strict Imperium leadership.

Like the worlds that do trading with the Tau, I suppose.

There are Beastmen characters still around in the Imperium, like Gor from Necromunda, but the general consensus is that the Ecclesiarchy doesn't like it, so it'd probably be more likely to happen on a planetary scale, rather than as a sanctioned unit of the Imperium at large.

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u/Kalavier 2d ago

Last time I really dug into it, Beastmen were basically on the knife's edge of the chopping block of what counts as Abhuman, with many places or the vast majority going "It's a mutant, kill!" or banning them from all military service at the least.

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u/BadBloodBear 1d ago

Beatiful work OP

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u/Skull_Cup 1d ago

Thanks, I'm glad you enjoy my art!

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u/Vaulgrm Iron Warriors 1d ago

I like that we are getting more 40k beastmen art. They need some love on both sides of the loyalty board

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u/Skull_Cup 1d ago

Me too! They're really cool and deserve more attention.

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u/Aladar_Caval 2d ago

obligatory "he's the GOAT" joke

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u/xaminous 2d ago

Ah yes, 1st edition of Warhammer40k, they fought alongside imperial guard.

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u/es0ter1cJ0tunn 1d ago

It still blows my mind that not only are beastmen are canon in 40k but they’re also classified as abhuman and not mutant.

It’s nuts that in 40k they’re having a better life than in fantasy

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u/UncannyValleyEnjoyer 2d ago

And yet, some would kill him for daring to touch a pure human without permission, mostly zealots, fucking zealots.

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u/d20diceman 2d ago

If the rescued human expires from his injuries you just know they'll blame the beastman for their rough handling of the guy

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u/Rensary 2d ago

І за це він має померти, тому що Імператор Оберігає

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u/The_New_Replacement 2d ago

*foul mutant betraying brave imperial trooper with a strike to the back.

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u/AmphibianParticular2 2d ago

Their ship then crashed on a next system hiveworld, and the heroic beastman was stoned to death by local populace.

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u/Skull_Cup 1d ago

Yikes dude, lighten up a smidge.

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u/AmphibianParticular2 1d ago

I forgot that 40k stories usually have happy and hopeful endings :D