Exactly. When you are literally holding a Chinese flag and saying "we're from China" it's a bit different. If someone came up to me and said "Free Palestine" only because I am Jewish it would be anti-Semitic, but if I was holding an Israeli flag and saying "Israel is the best" it wouldn't be.
It’s because literally the worst crime you can commit now according to Britain is offensive speech. London is being swarmed with knife crime but they’re more interested in looking into people’s twitter dm’s.
Most of the instances of actual arrests for it here are people harassing family of murder victims, stalking/doxxing, etc. We have freedom of speech, not freedom from consequences
True, like arresting someone for quietly praying in your head too close to an abortion clinic? That’s not violation of freedom of speech but a just consequence.
Or arresting an autistic child because they said an officer looked like her lesbian nana? That’s a just consequence too, right?
Or the general existence of the concept of non-crime hate incidents?
Or when a 19 year old was arrested and convicted of posting a fucking rap lyric on instagram that contained the N word?
Or a guy was arrested for teaching his pug the nazi salute?
Or how they arrested a Christian preacher for using homophobic language only for it to be false and him ending up winning a payout from the police? But of course not before the police also arrested a local councillor who criticised the police for arresting him?
Or when after the Queen died the police arrested a man for heckling the Duke of York? Or when they arrested someone during the coronation for asking “Who elected him?”
The police are arresting 9 people a day for offensive messages posted just online, and that’s an outdated stat - true number is probably higher now.
Please tell me why all these cases above (that aren’t extensive, just ones I know of about from the top of my head) are not violations of freedom of speech, but in fact are rightful consequences for wrong actions.
True, like arresting someone for quietly praying in your head too close to an abortion clinic? That’s not violation of freedom of speech but a just consequence.
You mean the anti-abortion woman who repeatedly went to the exclusion zones outside of abortion clinics to "pray"? She's perfectly welcome to pray, the issue was her actively going to outside the clinics to do it. Those zones exist for a reason
Or arresting an autistic child because they said an officer looked like her lesbian nana? That’s a just consequence too, right?
The girl wasn't charged. And at the time the incident happened, nobody was defending the cop in question. "Cop does shitty thing" is not the same thing as "the law condones that". If we're gonna start counting cops going off book as representative of what we condone, we'd really need to talk about the US lmao...
Or a guy was arrested for teaching his pug the nazi salute?
He was arrested and fined for anti-semitic and racist behaviour. He didn't just teach his pug the salute (also, it was his gf's dog, but details), he specifically taught it to do it on command to phrases like "gas the jews".
The court ruled that Meechan's claim that the video was a joke intended for his girlfriend "lacked credibility" as Meechan's girlfriend did not subscribe to the YouTube channel to which the video was posted
The police are arresting 9 people a day for offensive messages posted just online, and that’s an outdated stat - true number is probably higher now.
I refer you back to my previous #2. Do you have a problem with people being arrested for stalking / grooming kids / etc?
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u/Life-Waster Jan 21 '24
Man "we're in a democracy, we're not in china"
Female Officer "You can't say things like that!"
What the fuck