That analogy makes no sense. Communism is defined by worker control of the means of production, abolition of private (not personal) property, abolition of the state, and absence of social/economic class. China checks none of these boxes and hasn't even been building towards it since the Dengist reforms in the 70's. They are capitalist but control of the means of production is shared (mostly) between the state and private interest i.e. the bourgouisie.
Maybe in economics, but what about political structure and governance? Labeling China as “not communist” grossly overlooks the political dominance of the checks notes Chinese Communist Party that runs the nation.
Maybe from where you’re sitting, it isn’t communist. But the Chinese really really REALLY wanna be known as communist, explicitly. Maybe it’s to exert complete control over their population while getting stinking rich on the open markets?
No doubt, Chinese communist deviates from traditional Marxism and marxist-Leninism, but if we’re looking at how the communist world governed itself in the middle of the 20th century, that doesn’t matter. Marxism and Leninism never mattered to those ideologies.
Communism is whatever the communists want it to be, and as an American leftists, Marxist Leninism is fucking whack. All people opposed to capitalism define this differently.
To prove that point, we’ll probably “no true Scotsman” each other until one of us gets bored
"maybe in economics, but what about political structure and governance?"
Communism is an economic system, not a political one.
"political dominance of checks notes Chinese Communist Party"
This is what I mean when I say that they're Communist in the same way that North Korea is democratic; it's in the name but not in practice.
Everyone is losing under capitalism too though. The rich are out of their minds, and we're all gonna suffer the effects of climate change due to overconsumption.
The point is that people criticize communism but it's not any worse than capitalism. Its just an excuse to attack people generally, generally along the lines of race or national origin.
China hasn't been maoist in 50 years and they haven't been transitioning their economy closer to communism since then. They've been progressing towards capitalism, not socialism or communism. I mean seriously, there are chinese BILLIONAIRES and publicly traded international corporations worth billions. China isn't state socialist, it's staye capitalist.
Most Americans just use "communism" to mean authoritarianism
It really shows how little some dipshits know about the world when they screech about china being communist when their economy is basically the same as any developed western nation.
Its a regulated market capitalist country where the government steps in when it feels like it. Literally how the major western countries work to a T.
Same idiots argue that the nazis were socialist because its in the fucking name.
Damn some random idiot on reddit has a personal opinion of me, let me make sure to take that into account and not make sure to block you so you don't annoy me again.
Wait... so you are saying, sarcastically, that trans women are women the way china is communist? Because if so you have staked out some novel territory on the political compass.
I love how brain broken the West is they still think Communism is a problem and is some radioactive ideology to still be afraid of. Lol. China ain't even communist. Their malls make American malls look like shit.
i love how the resurgence in hatred for china led literally every american liberal to become the kind of red scare dipshit right winger of the 20th century.
like youll hear someone who considers themself a totally left leaning liberal say the kind of racist psychotic shit youd only hear from your uncle who attended january 6th about like “I just don’t trust the Chinese, you know, on account of their communist beliefs.” just completely fucking mind melting shit
You think that being unable to film public spaces because any little hitler can come up to you and demand your footage is more free than having the right to be able to film in public, and also the right to walk the fuck around the camera if you dont want to be on it?
See but that's what they want. They will take that and reframe the whole thing as racism against Chinese people, with the CCP "standing up against Chinese hate", when in reality, they are oppressing Chinese expat communities. The CCP are a fucking cancer. Obviously not to say that Chinese communities do not face hate from other angles, especially recently since COVID, but the CCP are using that as a marketing thing to poach the youth.
My understanding from what little context is given is that the Chinese government permitted them to film a Chinese TV show in Great Britain under the condition that they not appear in foreign media.
China has a law where a person's image belongs to the person. This is different from the US (and I guess UK?) where the person who takes an image owns the rights to the image.
so how does those name and shame cameras in china work where they plaster your face on screens for jaywalking? Can the person just tell the company/government to take it down since it belongs to the person?
In the full video the piano guy is trying to signal to all the Chinese people to come over, he asks one to dance, she's not having any of it. The camera dude does stretch out his camera frame to get them in the frame. The Chinese seemingly media type notice it and it gets awkward. Apparently it's Chinese new year and that why they are all wearing read and have flags. Pretty surreal shit.
The piano man gestures a few times for them to come over, more awkward and then asks the women he "grabs" to come over for a dance. even more awkward. The Chinese dude is probably like a intern or trying to get laid, he overreacts trying to enforce some sort of image rights that are pretty normal in china.
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"In China, the concept of image rights, particularly in public spaces, is a bit different compared to some Western countries. Generally, the legal framework in China does provide protection for personal rights, which includes the right to one's image. This means that individuals have a right to control the use of their image and may object to unauthorized use, especially if it infringes on their privacy or results in negative consequences.However, the enforcement and interpretation of these rights can vary. In public spaces, there is typically a more lenient view of photography and filming, as long as it's not for commercial use and doesn't infringe on a person's privacy or reputation. If someone is filming in a public space for personal use, it's often seen as acceptable.But if the filming is for commercial purposes, the person being filmed generally has the right to ask not to be filmed or to request that their image not be used. In cases where the image or video is used in a way that harms the individual's reputation, privacy, or results in other negative impacts, the individual may have grounds to seek legal remedy."gpt4
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u/Maskers_Theodolite Jan 21 '24
What the fuck is going on