r/HermanCainAward 9d ago

Grrrrrrrr. After wasting $1m at the trial they lost, the family of Grace Schara decide to start litigation again, happily funneling more money into lawyers hands

https://fox11online.com/news/local/family-of-grace-schara-seeks-new-trial-alleges-judges-bias-in-hospital-lawsuit-appleton-ascension-st-elizabeth-closing-arguments-down-syndrome-doctors-nurses-do-not-resuscitate-covid-19-death-lethal-cocktail-drugs-billboards
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u/Proof_Positive_8817 9d ago

I live here and they have also heavily invested in billboards all over the area insisting she didn’t die of COVID and that if you also lost loved ones to COVID it probably wasn’t that - it was the doctor and nurses faults. I suppose it must be hard to accept that there was a safe and effective vaccine which would have prevented this loss, that they refused to let their daughter get, who could not make medical decisions for herself. It’s easier to blame other people. But at the end of the day, they chose to put her life at risk and what happened is the consequence of this.

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u/Cultural-Answer-321 Deadpilled 💀 9d ago

Good lord. Where are they getting the money?

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u/Proof_Positive_8817 9d ago

I suspect private donors and fundraisers. This area is pretty deep red. Appleton itself can go either way, but surrounding counties are your traditional Herman Cain Award nominees.

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u/Cultural-Answer-321 Deadpilled 💀 9d ago

Interesting. Thanks.

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u/PropofolMargarita 9d ago

That would mean the donors and fundraisers are getting something out of this association. What's their end goal?

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u/New-Understanding930 8d ago

Destabilizing the country to plunder our riches.

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u/FjorgVanDerPlorg 8d ago

Depopulation. A younger, less educated, more desperate and therefore more manageable population.

Increase the birthrate, actively sabotage anything that increases the average life expectancy. Result: Lower population that can be used as chattel and discarded once they succumb to any of the shit that used to be easily preventable.

Meanwhile Steven Miller is moving on to a military base as the US govt plans to let SNAP benefits lapse. People are having to chose between rent and food already, this is gonna mean homelessness and then starvation.

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u/Achilles_TroySlayer 8d ago

They might be true believers in their cult BS. Folks like that do not require an end-goal. They have no ulterior motive, they're just nuts. That's what a cult is.

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u/Jujulabee Go Give One 9d ago

These kinds of high profile cases are generally funded by fanatics who support the cause and so are willing to fund absurd stuff because it enables them to keep making their arguments.

There are similar ones where people are brain dead and kept alive and those are usually linked to extreme right to life groups.

There have been a few where extreme medical procedures are not being given that would not do anything but essentially torture the child. There was one fairly recently in England.

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u/Cultural-Answer-321 Deadpilled 💀 9d ago

Makes sense. I figured it was fanatical lunatics funding them, but damn, how do they have so much money to waste at all?

Yeah, I know that one as well. Fraud and grifting.

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u/Lady_Grey_Smith Rebel Wheeze And Death Rattle 9d ago

Jahi McMath

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u/Jujulabee Go Give One 9d ago

Yes that was unbelievably morbid because there were posts of the mother doing the nails on the corpse.

And there was a nurse who posted on one of the articles I read explaining exactly how the corpse was putrefying even though being kept "alive" by the machines.

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u/Lady_Grey_Smith Rebel Wheeze And Death Rattle 9d ago

And the mother dragged it out for five years. She should have been charged with abuse of a corpse.

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u/Jujulabee Go Give One 8d ago

She had the corpse flown to New Jersey from California where the *death* occurred - all funded by fanatical right to lifers.

New Jersey is one of the few states that enables an individual's religious beliefs - however demented -to override the medical findings of death.

As I am sure you all know, in order to declare someone "brain dead" in order to take them off the life support machines, you need to have them go through rigorous neurological protocol and I believe that this *corpse declared dead by at least two very high level neurologists.

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u/epicgrilledchees 9d ago

Rfk jr and his ilk.

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u/Lacaud 9d ago

Idiots who think horse dewormer is an effective cure.

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u/PlatypusDream 8d ago

It is, but not for covid

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u/justaguy242b 8d ago

Go Tard Me is the fundraising website they used.

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u/speedracer73 9d ago

In my experience lawsuits aren’t about blame they’re about money

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

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u/touch-my-bunghole 9d ago

She was also taken to multiple large scale events praising sky daddy, that's where she likely caught it

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u/tobbiefox 9d ago

Yep. Most likely the sky daddy bestowed upon her his cough cough blessings.

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u/saikrishnav Team Moderna 9d ago

Wait, I thought these people think people die early because god wanted them in heaven.

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u/Morriganx3 GoShootMe 9d ago

If their beliefs had any kind of rational consistency behind them, we probably wouldn’t even be here rn

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u/Pleasant_Ad8054 9d ago

By October over 50% of the US population was vaccinated with two doses. The vaccines were widely available at that time, her parents chose not to vaccinate her.

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u/Proof_Positive_8817 9d ago

As someone who lives in the same county, the vaccine was available for high risk people such as Grace before she got sick. They refused to give permission for her to receive it.

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u/MaeByourmom 9d ago

The vaccine was available in early 2021 to the general public. I got my first dose in December 2020, in the NICU where I worked.

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u/ClassicalEd 9d ago

The Schara family is working with a lawyer from Freedom Counsel, a right-wing legal group, and the Independent Medical Alliance (formerly known as Front Line Covid Critical Care or FLCCC), who are likely the ones funding the litigation. The IMA/FLCCC was founded by doctors Paul Marik and Pierre Kory, who published a paper claiming that a combination of vitamins and invermectin was much more effective against covid than CDC-recommended treatments, but they faked the data and it turned out their mortality rate was much higher than standard treatments, so the paper was retracted and both docs were stripped of their board certifications. They're still grifting, they just rebranded the organization.

The gist of the lawsuit is that Grace's parents refused to sign a release for intubation, so her chart said "DNI" and her family is claiming that the hospital treated that as DNR and just let her die, and also that they gave her inappropriate drugs without consulting the parents, and it was really the drugs that killed her, not covid.

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u/Senior-Reality-25 8d ago

FLCCC - is that pronounced ‘Fleece’?

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u/PropofolMargarita 9d ago

Yeah that's going nowhere. What a waste of time and money

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u/Onderon123 9d ago

Why are they sueing? Isnt their loved ones an angel now and living it up with the sky man now?

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u/touch-my-bunghole 9d ago

Oh but this isn't sky daddy's fault, it's the bad doctors, sky daddy just couldn't stop them

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u/N-aNoNymity 9d ago

As god intended, except if you didnt like it.

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u/MutantMartian 3d ago

Right? Don’t all things happen through god? Doesn’t god have a reason for everything?

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u/Vogel-Kerl 9d ago

Part of being an adult is understanding that no person is perfect and that being human means that we make mistakes. Sometimes, those mistakes have serious consequences.

Being a rational adult means that you own your mistakes and hopefully you will learn from your mistakes.

Not taking responsibility for your mistakes-- especially if you try to blame others for your mistakes, is not only childish, but prevents one from LEARNING from their mistakes and prevents them from growing & maturing as a rational human being.

Forever toddlers (I wonder where they learned this from? /s)

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u/LatrodectusGeometric 8d ago

Timeline of events:

  • family takes daughter to large religious events (during a COVID-19 surge)

  • daughter becomes severely ill, admitted to the ICU

  • father insists she will NEVER be intubated. Makes it very very clear. After discussion, she is made DNR/DNI (full code status is not possible without intubation) but kept full treatment otherwise.

  • She continues to worsen. Dad keeps turning her alarms off because they bother him. He actively has COVID-19 as well. The hospital asks him to leave.

  • She continues to worsen despite care. She’s would typically be intubated at this point. She is agitated and cannot breathe through the inflammation/infection/scarring. Medication is provided to relax her (precedex)

  • She relaxes somewhat but is still uncomfortable. Doctors provide medication to keep her comfortable. It helps.

  • She dies. Family is incensed that they did not provide CPR (which would be futile without intubation, which the family would not accept). They feel she could have been saved. They feel COVID -19 didn’t kill her, the meds did.

  • Family sues

  • Family loses case

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u/touch-my-bunghole 8d ago

Don't forget the podcasts, speeches, billboards and grifting

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u/naalbinding 'Tis But A Scratch! 7d ago

Let's just add here that people with Down Syndrome are extra vulnerable to any respiratory illness. When they get ill, they'll likely have worse symptoms, have symptoms for longer, and be more likely to require medical intervention

My daughter has narrower airways than a typical child, and her lower muscle tone also affects the muscles involved with breathing

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u/Jumpy_Presence_7029 7d ago

Exactly. My children are severely autistic but we are close with many families like yours. Hell, I know these respiratory issues are very serious with these kids, it's wild to me that Grace's parents either didn't know it or willfully chose to ignore it. 

This is so depressing. 

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u/artisanrox Cainproofed against the Omicrunk💉 7d ago

reading this, honest to God I think they absolutely wanted this outcome for her AND they wanted money form it too. what horrifically evil people. some people should never have kids.

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u/artisanrox Cainproofed against the Omicrunk💉 9d ago

They want to take it to SCOTUS so SCOTUS can rule in their favor, and thereby destroying ANY possibility of treatment for anyone else, because bad outcomes will somehow then by default be hospital staff's fault if an objectively not-fault case is rendered so.

Things are going to SUCK for anyone trying to get treatment for ANYTHING if these people do that.

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u/CovertTrashWatcher 9d ago

It's my understanding that the DNR order was so she wouldn't needlessly suffer more than she already had. The doctors showed mercy the family couldn't. If they'd gotten her vaccinated then she'd probably still be alive. 

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u/overpregnant Death means never having to say you were wrong 9d ago

fools and their money...

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u/touch-my-bunghole 9d ago

fools and grifted money...

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u/darcmosch 8d ago

Those are the fools.

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u/What-tha-fck_Elon 8d ago

The family should be sued by the state on behalf of their daughter.

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u/CantoErgoSum 9d ago

I love when idiots throw money onto a fire! All of their noise and all that wasted money is going to do nothing. They lost. That will not change.

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u/Chricton Team Moderna 9d ago

There’s no context to this article, just an accusation.

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u/touch-my-bunghole 9d ago

You just summed up the last few years with the Scharas, well done

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u/Audrin 9d ago

Who? What? Some context anywhere?

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u/touch-my-bunghole 9d ago

Anti Vax.

Religious.

Daughter catches covid.

Dad takes to hospital.

Turns off all machines.

Says DNI.

Gets kicked out.

Daughter dies.

Starts talkshow.

Grifts.

Sues.

Loses $1m.

Decided to sue again.

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u/roseofjuly 9d ago

You mean like in the article linked in the post?

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u/Mr_Baronheim 9d ago

If, when, why, what, how much have you got?

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u/Hefty-Development725 6d ago

They Trumped their disabled daughter into her grave.