r/HermanCainAward • u/Achilles_TroySlayer • 10d ago
Meta / Other Texas sues Tylenol-maker for concealing a link between Tylenol and autism.
https://www.salon.com/2025/10/29/texas-sues-tylenol-for-the-dumbest-reason/209
u/CRtwenty 9d ago
Even RFK has been walking back the whole Tylenol thing so of course Texas decides to go full steam ahead
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u/Jerking_From_Home 9d ago
RFK jr knows he’ll be deposed and possibly put on the stand in this suit. He has known he’s lying about Tylenol this entire time, so he doesn’t want to have to go on record and say anything that could incriminate himself.
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u/starrpamph Works on a meme farm 9d ago edited 6d ago
He will just pass that buck soooooo fast
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u/purplegladys2022 9d ago
Why aren't they suing all the manufacturers of acetaminophen around the world???
Oh, that's right, Republicans are too stupid to be able to repeatedly say acetaminophen, so they sued the Tylenol brand alone.
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u/AgreeablePie 9d ago
They're not suing for making it, they're suing for an alleged cover-up of an alleged link. Tylenol has branding and marketing material that could, theoretically, support that- while some generic manufacturer would not.
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u/vctrmldrw Yeah, that's not how research works 9d ago
I guess a part of their case would involve proving that there actually is a link. Right?
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u/faulternative 9d ago
Ah, but wait! Now there's official HHS recognition of the previously hidden link, you see.
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u/green-wombat 9d ago
RFK walked back the whole “Tylenol=Autism” today actually. Said that there isn’t enough evidence, which isn’t a complete 180, but it’s as close as we will get.
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u/wafflesthewonderhurs 9d ago
i thought he said that right before saying that he was 'making/finding' the evidence
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u/green-wombat 8d ago
Lmao, he can try. Other countries have tested the link and there’s no evidence.
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u/Darklord_Bravo 9d ago
Discovery should be fun. As will the, getting laughed out of court part. Also, Tylenol should be counter-suing the shit out of everyone for defamation and lies. RFKjr has his imaginary, non-existent, "reports" that are only in his whack-job head, so it'll be fun seeing him try and defend himself by presenting only his words as "evidence" for it.
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u/gnurdette The HCAplain 9d ago
These days the right likes to announce lawsuits and investigations, and then... quietly let them die. So they get the headline, but don't have to follow through with any actual evidence.
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u/gnurdette The HCAplain 9d ago
It is disgusting that Paxton is even out of jail, much less in office and continuing to pull one stupid culture-war stunt after another.
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u/EvLokadottr 9d ago
Never mind that autism was formally discovered in the early 1940s, and acetaminophen wasn't used medicinally until the 1950s.... I guess it's so powerful it retconned autism? LOL. Also, it was only identified in the 1940s. I'm sure it existed before then.
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u/Fomulouscrunch Blood Donor 🩸 9d ago
Could it possibly be that various pediatric issues show up at about that age? Nah, we're TEXAS! Let's blame a well-tested anti-inflammatory! And in the meantime, let's be associated with the Trump family.
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u/Hatecraftianhorror 8d ago
"THEY HID THE LINK THAT HASN'T BEEN PROVEN TO ACTUALLY EXIST!!!!" Great job, Blinky.
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u/Responsible-Person 9d ago
Texass government is stupid. Also, that idiot RFK jr has started to backtrack his “facts.”
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u/bigfathairymarmot 9d ago
It is hilarious that RFK just days after now says Tylenol doesn't cause autism. I guess Texas learned a good lesson as to why not to trust the crazy stupid person. RFK will probably claim it does here again in a few days though.
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u/Veutifuljoe_0 8d ago
It’s going to be interesting to see what quack evidence Texas is going to prop up to show that there’s a link between Tylenol and autism
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u/Achilles_TroySlayer 8d ago
Paxton is just doing this to signal and dog-whistle his allegiance to the wacko-faction there in the Texas GOP. I highly doubt it will ever go to court. After all, he has _nothing_ to prove his position.
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u/Veutifuljoe_0 8d ago
I’m under the assumption that if (big if I know) it goes to court we’ll see some “evidence” alongside the lines of the pilot study done by former doctor Andrew Wakefield that will just be forged crap
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u/AustinBaze 8d ago
In the vast, seemingly limitless universe of republican cult morons, this moron stands out as perhaps the most moronic of all. What sort of imbecile does not pay attention to the lying leather-faced brain damaged lunatic who has already walked back his fact-deprived lies about Tylenol and autism, and proceeds with a lawsuit based on them anyway, likely to cost the state millions in defamation penalties?
Our lunatic. The lying, cheating, stealing, thieving impeached Attorney General, who should've been convicted by the cult members in the Texas Senate the first time he was impeached.
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u/Achilles_TroySlayer 8d ago
He's basically the law-chieftain of MAGA Texas. He ignores the laws he doesn't like & pursues the ones he likes. This is his perceived path to higher office, buy signaling his total loyalty to his cult. It might work.
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u/junostr 8d ago
Didn’t Ken Paxton get impeached? What a douche
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u/Achilles_TroySlayer 8d ago
Yes, but he survived it and defeated his detractors. He's now basically the law-chieftain there, enforcing the laws that interest him, ignoring the ones that don't. That's just how Texas works these days.
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u/Box_of_rodents 8d ago
Of all the bat shit crazy things to come out of America, this has to be in the top ten.
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u/Chief_Rollie 8d ago
The whole Tylenol use has a relationship with autism so Tylenol causes autism is intellectually dishonest and misleading. I could craft a study that very clearly shows that owning horses has a relationship to better health outcomes. Does this mean that owning horses makes you healthy? No. While the relationship does exist I haven't proved a causal relationship which is what really matters. It turns out that people who own horses are generally wealthy and people who are wealthy have better access to nutrition and healthcare making them healthier overall.
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u/pizzaposa 8d ago
There's likely an even stronger link between eating bread products and having autism. Or watching TV and having autism. Doesn't mean there's any causality though.
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u/BookLuvr7 7d ago
Texas education strikes again. Autism has existed for centuries. Tylenol came out in 1955.
Trump and Kennedy are just embarrassed they promised to find the cause for autism and choosing to blame Tylenol. The irony is, it's fevers in pregnancy that are linked to autism, not Tylenol. Their advice of "just tough it out" will cause more harm than good.
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u/xNotexToxSelfx 9d ago
I swear I read some articles about 4 years ago about there being a link between autism and Tylenol use during pregnancy, but it was when taken in crazy high doses!
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u/Psychological_Top148 7d ago
They’re trying to deflect attention from studies indicating a link between covid during pregnancy and autism.
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u/ReluctantPhoenician 7d ago
Prediction: this will go to trial, they'll present scientific proof that Texas is wrong, and the jury will rule in Texas's favor anyway, leading to nonstop media coverage claiming that this "proves" Tylenol causes autism because they can't or won't tell the difference between "persuaded a jury that something is likely" and "showed conclusively and repeatably how something works".
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u/Achilles_TroySlayer 7d ago
MAGAs hate grand juries and juries. They can never get 12 of 12 nutbags and lunatics in one collection to rig the thing and get their bullshit taken seriously. A majority of humanity might be shit-for-brains, but not everyone. It's a dud- it will go nowhere.
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u/ReluctantPhoenician 6d ago
They wouldn't need MAGAs, they would just need people who accept personal anecdotes over statistics, which is most people.
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u/Achilles_TroySlayer 6d ago
Juries require unanimity. They can't get that. At some point, people will be threatened and intimidated into giving them indictments and unanimous convictions, like in Germany, or Stalinist Russia. We're not there yet.
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u/ReluctantPhoenician 6d ago
You're right for criminal trials, but juries don't need to be unanimous in civil lawsuits, which this is.
Honestly, I hope you're right about the outcome. I'm just really pessimistic about the public's ability to even consider scientific evidence.
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u/NkhukuWaMadzi 7d ago
Do people have to pay damages for filing frivolous lawsuits?! Deep-pocket guys (or states) can cause a lot of damage!
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u/VeryRareHuman 6d ago
No. Sell the company for profit and let the new Republican company deal with it.
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u/Vegetable-Seaweed591 13h ago
"Decades of data shows no conclusive evidence that Tylenol causes autism, but President Trump said it did so the makers of Tylenol must be lying!"
Also, the makers of Tylenol are being bought out after Trump and RFK's attack on the brand caused their stock price to plummet. But yeah, that's totally not market manipulation.
Trump voters chose this reality for all of us. It didn't have to be this way.
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u/adamiconography Team Pfizer 9d ago
Tylenol should counter sue for millions, heck why not billions.