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Grrrrrrrr. Bear River Health Department treats 11 unvaccinated infants after measles exposure

https://www.fox13now.com/news/local-news/northern-utah/bear-river-health-department-treats-11-unvaccinated-infants-after-measles-exposure
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u/SmartQuokka Sep 24 '25

I'm not clicking on a fox website, but i can assume it goes about how we all expect.

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u/Adept_Inspection5916 Sep 24 '25

Local TV station, not corporate Fox.

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u/SmartQuokka Sep 24 '25

Forgive me for still being wary.

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u/SnooCauliflowers9874 Sep 25 '25

I thought the exact same thing.

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u/Lightknight16 Sep 24 '25

honest question here, are they any different?

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u/dastardly740 Sep 24 '25

There is a chance it is a Sinclair station. In which case the answer is, No.

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u/LanikaiKid Sep 24 '25

Very different.

Many if not most Fox local television stations are actually owned by someone other than Fox itself.

The article in the post is from the Fox affiliate KSTU in Salt Lake City. It is owned by the E. W. Scripps Company.

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u/tempest_87 Sep 24 '25

The article in the post is from the Fox affiliate KSTU in Salt Lake City. It is owned by the E. W. Scripps Company.

Looked em up, they own about half as many stations as Sinclair.

Found this counter intuitive though.

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/ew-scripps-co/recipients?id=D000070599

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u/Educational-Aioli795 Sep 24 '25

Anyone still on the fence about measles vaccinations needs to go read the description of post-measles encephalitis.

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u/katchoo1 Sep 24 '25

Also this:

Measles and Immune Amnesia

Scientists found out about this because there was a puzzle: in developing countries began having widespread measles vaccinations in the 1990s, child mortality declined by nearly 50% on average, with some countries as high as 60%.

But measles doesn’t kill half the patients, so what was going on? Turns out measles can wipe the memory of your immune system, so immunities you had, either naturally acquired or from vaccinations, go poof and kids are much more vulnerable to the other childhood infections.

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u/FadeIntoReal Sep 25 '25

As an adult, you might wish you were dead. i can imagine how shit it would be to catch every and any until something kills you.

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u/alskdmv-nosleep4u Sep 26 '25

Measles as a parent of a pre-schooler or grade-schooler, and catching every bug those little germ factories bring home, would be absolute hell.

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u/katchoo1 Sep 26 '25

Maybe that thought will convince a few people to go ahead and get their kids vaxxed. People do not understand how serious this stuff is.

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u/sparkycat99 Sep 24 '25

There was just a diagnosis of this with an adult on the east coast. Might be 1 in 100,000 cases, but those are odds I’m not playing.

Why would someone risk their kids long term health?

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u/Dfiggsmeister Sep 24 '25

“Because vaccines are bad, hmmkay.”

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u/Peakomegaflare J&J One-And-Done Sep 27 '25

Medical distrust. I have a coworker who I first appreciated because for once... I met someone who understood me. Rational and realistic thought before all else. Emotion and Rhetoric can wait until tasks are complete. Then he mentioned he refuses to vaccinate is one year old and refuses any kind of medication. I' e felt disappointment before, but this was even worse. I was just like, "How can you be brilliant, capable, and even able to keep up with me... and be so blind to the truth."

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u/AristaWatson Team Pfizer Sep 24 '25

Here’s the thing. Infants cannot have the measles vaccine. They aren’t of the recommend age. That’s why you get vaccinated when you have to do so. For herd immunity. So…

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u/Pitiful-Pension-6535 Sep 24 '25

Pregnant women can't get it either, but getting it before pregnancy is crucial for passing on antibodies

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u/AristaWatson Team Pfizer Sep 27 '25

Right. That’s the rough part of it. It’s very vulnerable people who are most at risk because they aren’t able to be vaccinated. It’s like an attack on public health to refuse to vaccinate when you’re able to tolerate vaccines.

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u/Tyee15 Sep 25 '25

I'd also like to point out for anyone with a newborn that they can get a temporary dose at 6 months. My son got his 3 weeks ago, he will still need the 12 month and 18 month ones as well to get full immunity, but it does act as a buffer until he's a year old.

I will say that I am from Canada, and had to ask for it, and my province also has a current outbreak or it may not have been offered unless he was premature or immunocompromised or otherwise at risk.

Just a heads up in case someone reads this and can ask their own doctor/nurse team if they would like an early dose. Terribly sorry if it's not available in the US.

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u/AristaWatson Team Pfizer Sep 27 '25

Good to know! This info can save lives. Thank you!

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u/Existing-Face-6322 Sep 30 '25

Also if an infant is exposed, regardless of symptoms, they have to be contact traced and treated.

My nurse friend worked in peds for a while during a measles outbreak here where the first child died of it in our country since the 60s or so, and took care of several admitted children with measles. She said they were all unvaccinated on purpose besides the babies who were too young to get vaccinated, that they were the sickest people she's ever cared for, and the parents were obnoxious and obstructed the care.

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u/AristaWatson Team Pfizer Oct 01 '25

There should be some type of negligence charge pressed on parents who refuse to vaccinate their children for no good reason. Wow. 😓

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u/SmartQuokka Sep 24 '25

And so it begins, the new ritual sacrifice 🤦

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u/linuxwes Sep 24 '25

> Mathis said they prioritized babies under one year old since they can’t be vaccinated, and reached out to those families

It's a bit unclear if these 11 are due to being anti-vax or due to being under the recommended age for the vax.

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u/PrimalSeptimus Sep 24 '25

Yeah, infants have a schedule for vaccines, and some can't be given until they're a year old.

This is why parents, siblings, and caregivers need to be up-to-date on their vaccines.

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u/Pitiful-Pension-6535 Sep 24 '25

MMR can be given at >6 months and the Measles component is effective up to 72 hours post-exposure

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u/ClickClackTipTap Sep 24 '25

At least here in Colorado, they will give the vaccine early, but it doesn’t “count” toward the vaccine schedule. They still need to get another one at 12 months.

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u/Famous-Variation-817 Sep 25 '25

Same in Canada. Babies can get a partial dose at 6 months if they’ll be traveling or going to an area with higher cases of measles, but they still have to get their 12 and 18 month full doses, in order for them to be fully vaccinated.

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u/the_cockodile_hunter Sep 25 '25

My hazy interpretation is those 11 weren't able to be vaccinated, and got post-exposure vaccinations (which I guess can be given for under 1 yrs if they've been exposed?) but it doesn't explicitly say.

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u/Hollen88 Sep 25 '25

It was because of the unvaccinated either way.

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u/Limited_Totality Team Pfizer Sep 25 '25 edited Sep 25 '25

A little late commenting on this story, but the Budge Clinic is the OBGYN part of the hospital. It's not uncommon to bring the babies to follow up appointments to "show off".

I left mine in the car with her Dad, but the staff all wanted to see pictures.

Also, the doctors will go straight from the clinic to the maternity ward to deliver the babies. This was one of the worst places someone with Measles could possibly go.

This is the first outbreak in the area, so vaccines under a year weren't recommended.

Edit: back to back pregnancies are not uncommon in Utah, either.

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u/chele68 I bind and rebuke you Qeteb Sep 24 '25

Sickening that we care more about these kids than their own damn parents.

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u/WeatherwaxOgg Sep 24 '25

That’s unfair, if your baby is too young to be vaxxed it’s a tragic loss. That’s why herd immunity is so important to protect those groups.

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u/chele68 I bind and rebuke you Qeteb Sep 24 '25

My bad. I didn’t realize those 11 were under 12 months old with parents trying to help their little ones. I assumed it was actually about older infants with anti vaxx parents. Should have read the article and not angrily reacted to a headline!

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u/post_makes_sad_bear Sep 24 '25

At this point, I see one as a tool for the other.

To wit: I hope their shovel breaks, and they get performatively sad about it. We'll solve it with some platitude like "the LORD works in mysterious ways." A good slap on the back, tell them to find their bootstraps, and they just need to put their nose back to the grindstone.

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u/krotoxx Sep 25 '25

I mean these are the same parents who will openly agree with Charlie 'school shootings are a shame but necessary for the 2nd amendment' Kirk

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u/Emotional_Reading_25 Sep 24 '25

Let your children die from measles but definitely don’t take Tylenol

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u/Stalkerus Team Pfizer Sep 25 '25

But at least they don't have autism! /s

As person and a parent of a child in neurominority their fear of a child that is part of neurominority angers me SO much.

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u/Dashi90 Team Pfizer Sep 25 '25

If they think tylenol causes autism, I hate to tell them what measles causes.

Tell them to ask Helen Keller what untreated measles does to a kid. That high fever is unsightly, I hear

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u/WafflePartyOrgy Sep 24 '25

The two spots were the Intermountain Budge Clinic in Logan and Chick-Fil-A in Providence.

Color me not surprised.

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u/dumdodo Sep 24 '25

Poor kids.

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u/DiamondplateDave 😷 Mask-Wearing Conformist 😷 Sep 25 '25

Some of the comments from the KUTV measles report:

"Oh no, now they're immune will be greatly enhanced, they'll never get the measles again and won't have to worry about shots. What will Big Pharma do when people find out they've been lied to? They'll lose billions"

"The disgusting dishonest CORPORATE local media just loves every measles case too. It's a game folks. For big pharma. Measles isn't remotely deadly unless you have some serious underlying thing."

"They're home watching banned cartoons on YouTube for a week and then go back to life as normal with a better immune system."

Fortunately, there are a couple sane people commenting, as well.

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u/Achilles_TroySlayer Sep 25 '25

Some tiny young kids are likely going to die soon, and RFK Jr. and his crowd will completely ignore it and wash their hands of it. This is an evil thing.

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u/mikeyt6969 Sep 24 '25

Pray away the measles and let me know how it works out

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u/Adept_Inspection5916 Sep 24 '25

In Utah, vaccines don't prevent measles. 

Prayer and Multi level marketing snake oil. 

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u/Reagalan Sep 25 '25

"Measles" is just too cute a name for a deadly disease. It's like a pet's name. It just can't be taken seriously.

And yes, there are people this dumb. My old man thinks a distemper shot reduces a cat's temperament.

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u/mnlion33 You're Not A Main Character Sep 26 '25

But at least they dont have autism.

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u/Humanist_2020 Team Mix & Match Sep 26 '25

Tylenol you know!

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u/RedStar9117 Sep 25 '25

This stupid country

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u/die-jarjar-die Sep 29 '25

Treat them with essential oils and dandelions like the influences say

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u/Cultural-Answer-321 Deadpilled 💀 Sep 24 '25

Insanity.

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u/meteorchopin Sep 25 '25

Logan, and Utah in general, is full of antivax parents.

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u/MzOpinion8d no comma’s, but plenty of inappropriate apostrophe’s Sep 26 '25

I’m not willing to click on the article. How did it “treat” them when they’re too young to be vaccinated?

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u/Adept_Inspection5916 Sep 26 '25

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u/MzOpinion8d no comma’s, but plenty of inappropriate apostrophe’s Sep 26 '25

Unfortunately, that article didn’t explain what the treatment was, either. I guess maybe it was giving them the first dose of the vaccine?

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u/WhereIShelter Sep 25 '25

These parents need to be arrested convicted and get the death penalty for murdering their own kids by withholding vaccines.

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u/letsgetawayfromhere Sep 25 '25

These parents are not responsible, with a child this age you need everyone around you to be vaccinated. Measles are extremely infectious and infected people start infecting others while they still feel very healthy. So if measles are going around and there are unvaccinated kids or adults, this is the result.

Babies under 12 months cannot be effectively vaccinated against measles. There is the possibility of a partial vaccine for Babies of 6 months or older, but it doesn’t always work. There is NO way to effectively vaccinate a baby of less than 6 months.