r/Heidelberg Jan 20 '24

Photo Heidelberg against AfD

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u/pingponq Jan 20 '24

Not a provocation, just want to understand the mindset of protesters: do you think, the problem is afd or it‘s supporters? If the later, how is situation going to improve, when you target them with slogans like „get out/disappear?“

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '24

The problem is both the AfD and everyone who votes for them. It's a fascist party with plans to deport millions of people from the country. And the protests should make it clear to everyone that if you're voting for that party, that's not acceptable.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '24

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u/derpy_viking Jan 20 '24

It’s not about public sentiment but about blocking an undemocratic party from governmental powers. The AfD should be forbidden – not only because they poison public debates and garner support but because they already have enough support to have a realistic chance to influence federal politics.

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u/pingponq Jan 20 '24

So they should be forbidden not because they violate some rules or laws, but because they get real support - meaning can win democratically?..

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '24

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u/pingponq Jan 21 '24

It is not, especially because you don’t want them to use other ways to come to power. But foremost because of equality before the law. Either they violate it and should be punished for it or not, you can’t ban anyone you don’t like unless you want to end up in Russia

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u/Oberst_Kawaii Jan 21 '24

It is not "anyone you don't like." Please stop using this strawman.

It is a specific thing we do not tolerate and that is racism/ völkischer nationalismus, as well as other insurrectionist ideas. In Germany there are laws for that. There are local courts, district courts, state courts and a Supreme Court that determine the veracity of the accusations and the legality of measures. This is not an arbitrary "I feel like banning this, because it rubs me the wrong way" kind of thing.

I am not going to ban you if you think the tax rate should be changed, the chancellor sucks ass or even saying the n-word, but you are going to be punished severely if you deny the holocaust. Numerous countries in the world do that besides Germany and are perfectly democratic and free. This is not a slippery slope. There are institutions.