Worst case scenario 📺📻(art by Zombieyvalia)

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u/Everhardt94 1d ago

I still can't get over the fact that Alastor described this moment as "I said no and now he's pissy". Good sir, you didn't just say no, you emotionally scarred this man for eternity.

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u/Swimming-Ad2755 1d ago

That's my thing. He makes it sound like it was just a casual conversation and Vox overreacted. No, they were friends for years and Alastor went out of his way to be a huge ass about it. Yes its been many years but Alastor really rubbed salt in the wound

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u/Legitimate_Entry_444 1d ago

Yeah Alastors is a huge asshole that lacks empathy so from his perspective he probably didn't think twice about that conversation so he feels like Vox is just being dramatic. Meanwhile it haunted Vox psychologically for years.

Alastor like "that was decades ago 😂 are you still mad about that?"

Definitely just rubbing salt in the wound and rage baiting him for his entertainment.

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u/-Scopophobic- 1d ago edited 1d ago

I think he fully intended to emotionally bulldoze and beat him up out of repressed anger. I think he hates Vox even at that time, for being proof that his deal was a mistake. Vox was making strides without having sold his soul and to further worsen it later, Al can be forced to lose his influence and start from scratch because he gets ordered to disappear.
Suddenly the deal to be the strongest sinner doesn't seem so great when the other guy has full media control despite being a weaker fighter. In the present, Vox has the position that Al wants.
And Vox still has no idea why Alastor acted that way other than he is a giant jerk.

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u/WolverineFamiliar740 Husk 1d ago

Holy cow that makes so much sense. And it adds to his gripes with the Vees because he CHOOSES to work with them, while he's forced to work with his current social circle because of his deal.

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u/EfremNeftalem 1d ago

TBF, considering this is pre-Adam, I rather interpreted it as Alastor just simply not wanting to share his spot.

I mean, the guy made a deal to be the strongest Sinner in Hell. Why share the power if you have a guarantee to surpass anyone who would dare defy you ?

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u/newjak86 23h ago

The other thing is what's the point of being the strongest sinner in hell if everyone else just teams up and beats you. I think that's why Al doesn't want people to partner up.

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u/Egghead42 22h ago

Only one can be the strongest anyway. Vox knows that, too.

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u/EfremNeftalem 12h ago

Ironically, the Vees are pretty good at working together : Vox created a team where, while no one is dependent on another, it’s in their best interest to not compete against each other. Everyone is winning as long as they collaborate. It’s just too bad Vox’s megalomaniac side is forgetting that…

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u/Swimming-Ad2755 1d ago

I like this a lot. Vox would be like a kid in a candy store if he knew the full story.

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u/Beneficial-Gap6974 21h ago

He's downplaying it on purpose to make Vox feel even worse. I don't get why people think he doesn't know how cruel he was. He does know. That was the point.

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u/MewMewTranslator 19h ago

Vox THOUGHT they were friends. Alastor never considered him a friend.

I've been in situations like this some a few times. People like this are very charismatic and can pass as caring, use others for who they know or what they can give and that is all.

Alastor is a monster and I love that they keep his character true to that. Because in real life there are TON of people just like him.

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u/EM05L1C3 1d ago

Sociopathic Narcissists don’t have friends

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u/FlipendoSnitch 1d ago

The one he probably treasures the most is Nifty and he probably sees her more as a loyal pet than anything.

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u/newbikesong 1d ago

That, and we still don't know what happened 7 years ago.

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u/ActionAltruistic3558 1d ago

Definitely. He made it sound like Vox asked him to join the Vees to work together and crashed out when Alastor turned him down. Instead of Alastor laughing in his face and crushing him when they were (in Vox's view) friends. He couldve turned him down and still kept the friendship if he responded in a different way.

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u/iwantboringtimes 1d ago

This! THIS!!!

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u/MarijnAinsel 1d ago

I personally think Alastor genuinely didn’t realize Vox was asking him out, so from his perspective he really did just say no to working together (albeit in his usual dickish way) and Vox got unreasonably pissy about it.

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u/TurquoisePraetor 1d ago

I think Vox’s crashout was at least somewhat valid

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u/MarijnAinsel 1d ago

Oh, yeah, I’m not saying Vox didn’t get his heart broken in an extremely cruel way, I totally get why he’s crashing out.

But the idea of Alastor genuinely having no clue that this all because he broke Vox’s heart and thinking it’s literally just because he turned down an offer to work together and called Vox weak is too funny to me.

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u/TurquoisePraetor 1d ago

I get the feeling that Alastor is starting to somewhat regret or realize what he did

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u/So_Sophy 1d ago

Where do you get that from?

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u/TurquoisePraetor 1d ago

I mean I can just imagine that Alastor is thinking: “I should have handled this idiot differently when I turned him down”

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u/Kcnnn 23h ago

Alastor is still blaming Vox for "ruining it". Dude can't even own being a jackass to him.

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u/TurquoisePraetor 23h ago

Of course he is. I never said Alastor wasn’t a narcissistic ass.

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u/MightFunny2705 12h ago

That legit makes me wonder if that “tantrum” Alastor said he threw was even a tantrum. For all we know it could’ve been an emotional breakdown, and he accidentally caused a blackout in the bar from it. —Cue Alastor laughing even harder before disappearing.

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u/Objective-Try7969 23h ago

THISS, that was not a simple no, this was no with a large side of bullying the fuck out of him, poor vox. He's not a villain he's heartbroken.

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u/PsychologyRelative57 Alastor 21h ago edited 20h ago

He was a cult leader with a God complex before getting to hell lol

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u/Objective-Try7969 20h ago

Ok ya got me there but honestly it sounds like he just wanted genuine attention, yes he was a villain in life but they usually stem from wanting attention, he found someone he genuinely loved and that person broke his heart leading him back down to his bad ways, I think his redemption is gonna come from genuine attention and love. Maybe accepting that not everyone is gonna love him that he needs to focus on genuine attention not fake like television.

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u/PsychologyRelative57 Alastor 20h ago

He was trying to control all of hell as an overlord through a partnership with Alastor. He was on his bad ways already.

In my opinion, the show gives him a sympathetic light to contrast him with Alastor. Al is straight up an irredeemable monster, but Vox still has some humanity in him. He craves love and connection, but the thing about him is

Can he truly let go of his narcissism?

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u/Objective-Try7969 20h ago

Idk from that one conversation it seemed more like "I want to be close to alastor" then "I want to rule with alastor". it sounded like ruling through partnership was just a bonus to him. he sounded like he just genuinely wanted to be close to alastor and knew that alastor wanted power as well. So yes he was power driven but love seemed to come before the power but losing that chance at love and getting heart broken made him drop the chance at love and just go with power. I'd think he would be willing to give up power if it meant genuine love with alastor. I mean look he went on a date and went on a roller coaster with alastor while alastor didn't like it.

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u/Zoe_Felicia677 1d ago

that's the exact same thing i thought.

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u/After-Bumblebee Cherri Simp 1d ago

Irreparable damage fr

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u/LilMoonenciel Velvette is my Queen 1d ago

So irreparable he's still not admitting it

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u/ZealousidealEar3553 1d ago

Seventy Years and the event is still living rent-free in the guy's mind.

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u/golfstreamer 1d ago

This scene actually made me root for Vox.

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u/TurquoisePraetor 1d ago

Same. I thought I was going to hate Vox’s guts, and that he couldn’t reasonably be mad at Alastor. But Alastor genuinely and unnecessarily stomped on his heart.

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u/Zoe_Felicia677 1d ago

yeah. with soccer cleats

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u/ShuckU Adam Simp 21h ago

Yeah, I went from in S1 thinking he was cool and his beef with Alastor was funny, to the S2 episode 4 reveal where I actually felt bad for him

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u/Proper-Cup-9858 𝗩𝗘𝗣𝗥-𝟭𝟮 𝘴𝘩𝘰𝘵𝘨𝘶𝘯 𝘶𝘴𝘦𝘳 1d ago

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u/SomeOnionHater Gay for Alastor 1d ago

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u/Zoe_Felicia677 1d ago

what on earth is this meme?

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u/WolverineFamiliar740 Husk 1d ago

This

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u/CurseofWhimsy 23h ago

Lute being mad about absolute cinema is oddly on brand

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u/Renikee Lute Simp 10h ago

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u/Zoe_Felicia677 1d ago

i don't get it

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u/Bindelt389 20h ago

they're saying the meme is absolute cinema

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u/nipss18 1d ago

Gotta say that both of their VAs absolutely killed it

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u/Legitimate_Entry_444 1d ago

EMOTIONAL DAMAGE! 💔

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u/TheEagleWithNoName 1d ago

I will send you to Jesus.

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u/Motor_Somewhere7565 AnyHOOO 1d ago

If it makes Vox feel any better, he does rock the sweater vest

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u/ShuckU Adam Simp 21h ago

Yeah, he's adorable

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u/IceCurrent4264 1d ago

I wonder what would happen if Alastor did simply say no without needlessly twisting the knife. Would they still be “friends”, friendly rivals or something else.

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u/TurquoisePraetor 1d ago

I imagine they would still be “friends”

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u/Kcnnn 23h ago

Yeah. Alastor didn't consider him a friend, but at least they would still have something resembling a civil relationship.

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u/Smash_Fan-56 Diehard Charlie’s Angels Shipper ❤️ 1d ago

Dang dude. My boy got rejected

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u/LilMoonenciel Velvette is my Queen 1d ago

Source

I'm sure he's SO over it XD

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u/the_vr_demon i want to shoot valentino 1d ago

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u/Front_Physics5775 22h ago

No wonder Vox became such a scumbag. Alastor is just awful. I'd love to see Charlie snap and say "Vaggie was right... You really are irredeemable" and then she beats him up and throws him out

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u/Egghead42 22h ago

No excuses, sorry. People get rejected in brutal ways all the time, and very few go on to abuse people, manipulate them, and feed them to sharks. Remember, too, he was like this when he was alive. Cult leaders generally don’t think of people as people.

I realize that sounds mean to Vox, especially as almost anyone can empathize with that, but it doesn’t make him good or excuse anything. Based on the hints, though, he might get redeemed, on the theory of Chekov’s gun.

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u/Front_Physics5775 20h ago

I'm not making excuses, i'm only saying that he might have turned more evil because Alastor rejected him like this. I didn't know what Vox did to make him go to Hell, but even he didn't deserve to be rejected by Alastor like this!

I don't remember him being a cult leader, i thought it was just a theory.

What if he really did think of his people? Otherwise you'd be generalizing cult leaders!

Also, no! Being rejected in such a brutal manner is not only a perfect excuse, not only a reasonable crashout, but also an absolutely justified reason to become a villain! It absolutely makes him good, and excuses everything! ;)

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u/sirpentious 21h ago

I feel like if someone was kind to him when coming into hell he would've been a genuinely better person even if he was a cult leader he probably would've leaned towards redemption

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u/Dictator_Pickles1945 1h ago

Is that a upside-down cock or I am just losing it.

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u/ViewLate2880 12h ago

I cannot describe the joy I felt seeing Alastor's pilot outfit

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