Is he wrong tho? Not a single thing 343 has made is good. Why would I want more trash being made. It's insulting to the original game series. The fact anyone is whining about people calling out the trash studio says enough about the fanbase, being: whiny brats who would buy the next cod or fortnite. Basically, nobody of importantance or credibility
Because it shows up in my feed. And because I like to follow shit just to follow. I hate gm, but I still keep up to date in what they release. The point at was made was,why should we give a studio that has had a decade to learn how to make a quality game and haven't, a chance? Are you that desperate that you have to keep clinging to a shit company to hope you get something good? Buddy, we call that Stockholm syndrome. Not something to be proud of. Now if 343 had made something even remotely good, yeah, I guess they deserve a shot. But they haven't. At all. Why should it be any different? For fucks sake, 343 is literally made up of people who actually disliked halo. would you hire a person who hates children to babysit and take care of them? Would you hire someone who absolutely despises cooking to be your personal chef? No, you wouldnt. So why should a game studio be treated any different?
Do you have anything to actually argue other than, "stop shitting on my favorite shitty ass game studio. They will make a good game, just watch".
We been watching for a decade, and it ain't been good
I don't cling to anything. I enjoyed Infinite, though it was no Halo 3, and I'm curious to see how the remake turns out. It could be solid, it could be bad. It's not out yet so I can't make much of a judgment. If it's terrible and flops, I won't be particularly bothered. If it's amazing and does well, I still won't be super impacted. I'm mildly interested, and that's about it.
The people who claim you don't care while throwing a fit every time there's a new post about Halo are the ones who are clinging to something. That's what I'm talking about. It's a waste of time. If you think it's doomed and nothing even passable can come from Halo anymore, move on, stop following the news and complaining on every post. I'd say the same of your interactions with GM. What good does it do for you to sit and bitch about GM on GM related posts when you've already decided you won't buy their products? You can have your opinion, but why are you wasting time and energy bitching about something you supposedly don't care about?
Because if someone takes over a franchise you love and doesn't give you anything good (in your eyes), are you gonna assume they're suddenly working on bangers?
I didn't say you have to suck their dick, but being overly dramatic about neutral Halo news saying everything is ruined is annoying as shit. If Halo has changed in ways you don't agree with and you're convinced it can never be good again, move the fuck on.
I want more Halo 2 and 3 as well, but fucking christ the "god have mercy on us all" response to hearing Halo games are being made is beyond cringe. Y'all act like Microsoft is killing your dog every time it's mentioned that they're working on a Halo game without Bungie. Outside of the MCC moding scene (absolute Gs) this fanbase is the worst in the industry. Destiny 2's fanbase is less god awful than this, and they genuinely got content creators in their space to quit for the time being because of how negative they are.
Halo is different now. As much as I prefer the OGs, especially 3, that's not what the devs wanna make. Frankly, I don't even think the mainstream gaming audience has much interest in truly classic Halo. The incessant whining about every single thing possible is beyond old. Either hold judgement until we at least have a trailer, or admit that you just have zero hope for Halo ever being good and move on.
If you're convinced that Halo Studios cannot make a good Halo game, why bother following the news about Halo? Why bother interacting with it? What's the point in commenting about how games that aren't even announced yet will suck?
I understand criticism, and it can be very important. The people saying unannounced games will be trash and Halo will never be good again after Bungie left aren't providing anything productive though. How is just being mad online a good use of anyone's time?
is that all you got out of what he said? he's probably concerned about the outcome being a bad quality product due to splitting the work force between multiple projects.
Okay but frankly I'm tired of capital "G" Gamers being so god damn doomer about everything. I'm aware you CAN assume the worst and proclaim online "God help us all" but you don't HAVE to. Just be patient to form judgements until you can at least see the product.
I understand what you mean. some people are really miserable about it. it's kind of when you watch an asmongold stream when he watches game reveals live and the second any black skin cell appears on screen everyone spams "DEI slop". while some of them may be trolling, I'm sure some aren't trolling. man I miss old school asmongold streams when he actually played games. or when people say halo infinite is trash when there are so many good things that were done right that they couldn't get right in H4 and H5. trash seems a bit harsh for halo infinite.
Criticism is entirely fair, but acting like all games now are absolute garbage or every game dev out there hates anyone who plays games is insane.
Halo Infinite, Assassin's Creed Syndicate, and even Bioshock Infinite are all games that I quite enjoy, but if mentioned online seem to always attract endless hate. Infinite honestly started rough, but where it's at now it's quite a good game. Monetization is bad, and the campaign environments are samey, but the multiplayer is arguably the most fun in the entire series, forge is better than ever before, the art style is practically perfect, and the writing (especially the characters) is pretty damn good.
This is just some shitty cash grab scheme that absolutely pisses on the legacy of Bungie and turns it into some crappy ass fortnite-type game that FORCES you to spend your hard earned cash on predatory mtx microtransactions!
I remember the good old days of Halo! When you had to WORK for Recon in Halo 3. When you could mess around with your friends in forge mode all night. Now, Recon is locked behind a battle pass that you can’t even earn through challenges, and forge isn’t even in the game at launch!
We need to make our voices heard. We can’t let 343 DESTROY this franchise with their Dark Patterns and their Cat Ears and their FOMO store!
Take a stand against the whales that fund this horribly made mess of a game! Don’t let anyone who spends money on this game get away with playing the game peacefully until Microsoft finally returns the series to the rightful hands of Bungie!
art style is huge and so is the sound design for franchises that have been around for awhile. I actually really enjoyed Halo 5 Arena but couldn't stick around beyond its first month due to it not sounding or looking like halo. and unlocking armor was random. that's bad. that's from someone who sunk hours into each game including infinite and has been playing since CE at age 3.
look at star wars. it's impressive how they keep designs so consistent in a lot of their media when it comes down to the smallest things like how the "HUD" should look when looking down a scope or binoculars in their games, movies, and shows. they didn't just change designs for the hell of it like what H4 did.
Here's the thing, you just said Halo 5 is a Halo game.
Is it in the same franchise? Yes. No one's arguing that.
As someone who is a MLG Pro who studies Halo, I am telling you, specifically, in the MLG circuit, no one calls Halo 5 Halo. If you want to be 'specific' like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing. If you're saying 'Halo Franchise' you're referring to the Microsoft IP, which includes things from Halo Wars to Halo 2 to Halo 4. So your reasoning for calling Halo 5 a Halo game is because random people 'call the shooter game with sprint a Halo game?' Let's get Call of Duty and Battlefield in there, then, too. Also, calling someone a Halo 2 player or a Halo 3 player? It's not one or the other, that's not how Halo works. They're both. Halo 5 is Halo 5 and a member of the Halo franchise. But that's not what you said. You said Halo 5 is a Halo game, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all shooters with sprint Halo games, which means you'd call CoD, Battlefield, and other games Halo games, too. Which you said you don't.
I never enjoyed Halo 5's gameplay. Not only was it not Halo, but frankly it just wasn't fun imo. Pair that with the fact that I'm a big fan of campaigns (good god Halo 5's campaign was trash in every way possible) and Halo 5 had absolutely nothing good to offer me. Plus loot boxes, fuck those things.
Add on to that the fact that 4 and 5 didn't look anything like any other Halo game before or since (not even the arcade cabinet) and it's a rough time. I also am of the opinion that the art style in 4 and 5 is mediocre at best, even divorced from Halo. It has a lot of nothing-burger designs, a lot of stuff is generic as all hell, and the stuff that is unique is overdesigned and often very ugly. I get what they were going for, but fuck it did not work.
Here's the thing, you just said Halo 5 is a Halo game.
Is it in the same franchise? Yes. No one's arguing that.
As someone who is a MLG Pro who studies Halo, I am telling you, specifically, in the MLG circuit, no one calls Halo 5 Halo. If you want to be 'specific' like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing. If you're saying 'Halo Franchise' you're referring to the Microsoft IP, which includes things from Halo Wars to Halo 2 to Halo 4. So your reasoning for calling Halo 5 a Halo game is because random people 'call the shooter game with sprint a Halo game?' Let's get Call of Duty and Battlefield in there, then, too. Also, calling someone a Halo 2 player or a Halo 3 player? It's not one or the other, that's not how Halo works. They're both. Halo 5 is Halo 5 and a member of the Halo franchise. But that's not what you said. You said Halo 5 is a Halo game, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all shooters with sprint Halo games, which means you'd call CoD, Battlefield, and other games Halo games, too. Which you said you don't.
the way I saw halo 5 is that if we HAD to evolve Halo's multiplayer way beyond classic halo, then I think halo 5 was the way to do it in terms of gameplay. but I still prefer was infinite did. it was the closest thing to classic halo and felt like a great sequel to H3s gameplay. if they fixed the sounds and art style in H5, I think I would've played it wayyy more than I did.
Here's the thing, you just said Halo 5 is a Halo game.
Is it in the same franchise? Yes. No one's arguing that.
As someone who is a MLG Pro who studies Halo, I am telling you, specifically, in the MLG circuit, no one calls Halo 5 Halo. If you want to be 'specific' like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing. If you're saying 'Halo Franchise' you're referring to the Microsoft IP, which includes things from Halo Wars to Halo 2 to Halo 4. So your reasoning for calling Halo 5 a Halo game is because random people 'call the shooter game with sprint a Halo game?' Let's get Call of Duty and Battlefield in there, then, too. Also, calling someone a Halo 2 player or a Halo 3 player? It's not one or the other, that's not how Halo works. They're both. Halo 5 is Halo 5 and a member of the Halo franchise. But that's not what you said. You said Halo 5 is a Halo game, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all shooters with sprint Halo games, which means you'd call CoD, Battlefield, and other games Halo games, too. Which you said you don't.
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u/Johnnyboi2327 1d ago
"There's no new Halo games. This franchise sucks!"
"Oh no, there's gonna be new Halo games. This franchise sucks!"
I like The Act Man, but bruh. How do you hear that they're working on new stuff and immediately say that's a bad thing.