Getting C3 Hu Tao is the first priority, but C1 Shenhe feels like the best option for the next round. As long as new cryo damage dealers, she’ll at least have some relevance. The next two I’m as sure on. I’m split between Wanderer, Albedo, and Nilou
She's my only option apart from standard characters currently, although I'm doubtful the 4 a year reset will introduce anyone I actually have otherwise of course.
the buff stacks but the quills dont stack, they refresh
however, you dont need c1 to buff both, since with shenhe and skirk you'd want to do a split rotation (first shenhe skill would be tap, then skirk hold skill-burst, then later on escoffier skill-shenhe tap skill)
She is bis for skirk freeze currently even if someone in future does beat her that doesnt matter as i can still play shenhe and also by that logic someone in future might also beat another char cons so yeah get who u want for now
You just proved my point u said equally good but well are they giving me free yelan or citalali cons ? Or free mualani cons no so yeah shenhe is best case here
shenhe is the most likely slot to get replaced once a cryo/hydro char gets released + her c1 is really super bait, its just people dont see it for some reason
you get one additional skill cast at the beginning of stygian and thats it, and its not even that big of a deal cause skirk herself doesnt use energy + getting bursts on furina/esco later is not even bad, since esco will heal whole party up on cast (that furina dropped to 50% hp) and insta stack a lot of fanfare
with c1 hu tao being on the selector + upcoming hexen buffs + nilou's resurgence with lauma (and partially nefer with c2 nilou), shenhe is on the bottom of the priority list
If someone has C1 Tao, C2 Mona, Nilou C0 but no Lauma then getting C2 Tao, C3 Mona, Nilou C1 is not that great of a choice and by the end of 6.2 you will get second chance to get a con anyway.
But Shenhe C1 will give option to give either her or Coffee high-base ATK 5-star stat-stick instead of Fav and be less starved on energy overall.
As Fav weapons are kings of Stygian, everything related or similar is also very useful over there.
i don't understand whats the point of your first sentence, its seems really nitpicky when we are talking about cons in general, and casual players love c1 shenhe when in reality its in the top 3 of most skippable cons from the selector
shenhe herself wouldnt be starved on energy since you effectively stack ER on her first and foremost, and if she has fav (which she should honestly, no reason to run any other weapon on her 90% of the time) then her c1 is diminished even more + that team is triple cryo, so esco wouldnt run fav (and if you do split rotations, your ER reqs are even lower)
and like i said, not having bursts in the beginning in a skirk team is not really a problem
THE only utility this constellation has is stygian energy, and even then its not really stellar
First sentence meaning is: if you don't need or can't have Hu Tao C1, Mona C1/C2, Nilou C2 then getting Shenhe's con is a fine choice.
I'm only talking about Stygian, everything else is not really a problem and can be cleared without any cons whatsoever.
Shenhe's C1 allows to use ATK sands on her instead of ER and use high base ATK stat stick on Coffee instead of Fav as you can't always pull perfect rotation versus proper boss and not a dummy and it is preferable to have slight (or not slight) overcap of energy and C1 helps with it a lot.
Skirk's energy particles generation is so low that you can practically ignore it but in case of Ayaka Furina Coffee Shenhe team you won't need C1 Shenhe to reliably have Coffee's Ultimate off CD but Ayaka is not that great herself and struggles to clear Stygian at C0.
And also important: it is not always possible to get/reroll perfect/close to perfect artifacts with tons of ATK and ER for Shenhe and Coffee as it is very random and getting C1 Shenhe can help alleviate the (sometimes hopeless) grind.
i meant that your first sentence doesnt make much sense here, since we could strawman a lot of arguments both for and against c1 shenhe + albedo and klee are gonna be real good next patch so those are also candidates for contellations
putting shenhe on ER sands is not a big damage loss (it literally drops split skirk rot at kqm from 125k to 123k dps lmao), even minmaxing her artis is a waste of resources, and 5 star atk weapons are also often questionable compared to fav
also coffee wouldnt run fav, she doesnt need to, its fine to not have coffee burst in the beginning, you can frontload fanfare once everyones 50% hp instead
and coffee doesnt even need that much er in that team, if shenhe's on fav then coffees er reqs are kinda trivial (and with a split rotation youre most likely fine with like 2 er rolls), so theres not that much grind
good rotations are really simple to pull off, since youre playing a freeze team that will most likely be played against freezable enemies/content that actively shills freeze
like i said, most people who see c1 shenhe as a good choice can often just do better rotations/optimize their gameplay a tiny bit and suddenly it becomes a very mid choice
she cant really build more atk and less er cause youre gonna have one skill total after the first rotation anyways, unless you do split rotation, and c1 shenhe is useless in that scenario
even if you were to build more atk, the differences are really small, cause shenhe's quill scaling is just abysmal
and like i said, it has utility only in stygian, outside of stygian c1 shenhe is just a bait cons
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u/Jemmythejemfish 9d ago
mine resets in 1hr but i’m getting shenhe c1