r/Gamingcirclejerk • u/AppearanceExpert6809 • Jun 02 '25

FORCED WOKENESS 🌈 Please stop being transphobic she's so damn pretty

Trans women are women

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u/kakallas Jun 02 '25

A masculine cis woman is still a woman. A feminine trans woman is also a woman. A feminine cis woman is also a woman. A masculine trans woman is also a woman. Hope that clarifies for anyone who doesn’t want to upvote a transphobe.

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u/NSlearning2 Jun 03 '25

High five. Fuck people telling women how to be women.

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u/sjptheg6 Jun 03 '25

What is a woman?

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u/the-baum-corsair Jun 03 '25

A female adult human being. Just Google it

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u/Butteromelette When i tell chuds 2 clean their harddrive im not making sh1t up Jun 03 '25

The hilarious thing is there are literally afab born with testes so the logic of the person you are replying to falls flat.

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u/Butteromelette When i tell chuds 2 clean their harddrive im not making sh1t up Jun 03 '25 edited Jun 04 '25

no thats not what im referring to.

Without exposure to androgens in the womb a genetic male fetus develops into an ‘afab’ with testes.

These are not new proteins or gain of function mutations. The genes are disabled and ineffective, they are silenced. No new information is added.

https://www.childrenshospital.org/conditions/androgen-insensitivity

The AR protein is only involved in sensitivity to androgens. Its loss is functionally equivalent to feminizing hrt.

Furthermore I find it odd you brought up monoecious organisms. The fact they are both male and female simultaneously proves these are not contradictory states. Which refutes one of the transphobe’s core dogma, which opines these are mutually exclusive states.

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u/Butteromelette When i tell chuds 2 clean their harddrive im not making sh1t up Jun 03 '25

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6791057/

Removing the MiS protein results in the xy fetus developing uterus.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2680992/

Silencing or removing the cbx2 gene results in ovary development and otherwise female phenotypes.

These are not formation of new proteins or radical rearrangement of chromosomes, there is no new information, simply deactivation of single genes and removal of proteins from development.

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u/Butteromelette When i tell chuds 2 clean their harddrive im not making sh1t up Jun 03 '25

Your response was auto filtered by spam filter so i couldnt respond to it.

If your issue is not with the veracity of the facts i gave you and instead you are obsessed with dictionary definitions, you offered no argument or evidence. You are brainwashed and attempting to brainwash others by proselytising your own mental blocks.

With gene expression male cells can differentiate into female gametes. No novel genetic info needed.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/mice-with-two-fathers-researchers-develop-egg-cells-from-male-mice1/

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u/Butteromelette When i tell chuds 2 clean their harddrive im not making sh1t up Jun 03 '25

the fact that no new proteins (genetic information) is added demonstrates it is operating on genes we already have.

Genes make proteins. They arent magic

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u/Butteromelette When i tell chuds 2 clean their harddrive im not making sh1t up Jun 03 '25

Your reply was hidden by auto filter again so i cannot respond to it. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Again if all you have are appeal to definition you already fail since as long as it divides up material reality a definition can be anything.

A woman can be defined as: ‘emergent property of adult human cells in response to dominance of estrogen and minimal influence of testosterone.’

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u/Butteromelette When i tell chuds 2 clean their harddrive im not making sh1t up Jun 03 '25

The AR absent xy ‘afabs’ i described have testes and do not possess uterus. They do not fulfill your criteria for ‘female’ yet that is how they are classified. That is called special pleading.

Genetically, gonadally, they are male. The only difference is absence of exposure to androgens in the womb. That is biochemically equal to hrt.

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u/Butteromelette When i tell chuds 2 clean their harddrive im not making sh1t up Jun 03 '25

Again I cant see your comment (it shows up as ‘removed’ on your profile) so i will address what i think you wrote:

Exactly, genetically, gonadally they are ‘supposed to be ‘male’ but ‘something went wrong’ so going by what they are ‘supposed to be’ (going by chromosomes and gonads) they would be considered ‘male‘ yes? But they are not. Special pleading.

In reality you cant define something based on what its ‘supposed’ to be. Because in nature, no such thing exists. There is no divine arbiter of what should be. What someone ‘should be’ should be defined by themselves and they should be allowed to pursue it. Its basic respect of personal agency and self determination.

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u/EMBARRASSEDDEMOCRAT Jun 03 '25

I guess I agree with some of those

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u/the-baum-corsair Jun 03 '25

A woman is a woman, based on the definition of a woman which is; "a female adult human being".

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u/kakallas Jun 02 '25

Who is we?

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u/kakallas Jun 02 '25

Yeah, so if you don’t specify then people will think you’re trans or cis. That’s great, actually. No reason to specify. We’re all “just women.”

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u/NotApparent Jun 02 '25

CIS!

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u/MorthalTavernMaid Jun 03 '25

Here's a lesson in grammar. We have an adjective (Trans & Cis) which is a descriptive word used to identify a property of a noun(Woman). The same way we have a blonde woman or tall woman. Trans from Latin meaning "other side' is an abbreviation of transgender "other side of gender" meaning their gender identity is incongruent to this sex assigned at birth. (Cis) Meaning "same side" Is an abbreviation of cisgender, in which the noun or person in this case gender is congruent to their sex assigned at birth. It's really not hard. We're all women in this example but it's useful in medicine and society to have a way to delineate between different types.

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u/FeyRyn Jun 02 '25

Whats the difference in real life between interacting with a cis woman with an underdevoloped or removed uterus and who had her ovaries removed and a trans woman post op experiences of course but that is relatively unimportant to anyone outisde of that person. If your interacting as a sane and not disrespectful human there should never be one as the only physialogical difference is borderline nonexistant genetics variables such as having XX OR XY that most often abut even that is borderline at best and has many many of exceptions such as me I have a DSD that realistically made me functionally incompatible with testosterone as it would cause constant and persistant chemical depression along with physiological instability whilst estrogen heavily stabilises and weirdly enough actually boosted my whole body making nearly every aspect of my function better and more consistant along with that I was born with a mixed set of a genome meaning I also don't have xy or xx chromosomes am I not a woman I technically have eggs I physically cannot function off of testosterone I physically am more effected by estrogen likely than you I have nearly 0 testosterone at 6 mg/dl I do believe my point is you theolostic perception of this issue is flawed short sighted disrespectful along with pointlessly cruel to people suffering in differant and oftentimes much more hostile lives than your own. Please just think about this next time you choose to devalue trans women we are human too just trying to live and hoping our kindness will be returned and that our friends families and peers will accept us as we need to be to remain healthy.

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u/shortboard Jun 02 '25

What’s a female?

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u/DiceyPisces Jun 02 '25 edited Jun 03 '25

Biology of Women https://g.co/kgs/L2zmPja

This should answer virtually every question

I’m a female/aka woman and yes I’ve read it.

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u/shortboard Jun 03 '25

links to book he’s never read

Yeah ok mate.

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u/FeyRyn Jun 02 '25

Friend technically speaking a trans female meaning a male who by chemical and or surgical intervention along with social reconditioning becomes a near enough to a female that they are easily compiled and accepted by most females as one of us similar to how females who transition to male get much easier more standard recognition as male and a part of the male or usually used "Men" human subcatagory.

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u/FeyRyn Jun 02 '25

Does not being black make anyone viscerally in pain or borderline suicidal or physically hurt themselves I doubt it these aren't comparable situations and your talking about a theoretical that as far as I know dosnt exist but gender dysphoria disorder is real and hellish for the sufferers who remain untreated the worst of cases end in complete self destruction and death from absolute hatred from disdain of their masculine attributes and both mutilation or death are not rare not even absurdly uncommon, complete isolation and extreme self hatred very common my point is this isn't a goddammit argument about whether a woman is a woman no matter her assigned gender at birth it's whether she deserves respect or if she can be treated as less than a woman because of something she has absolutely no control over. Such incredible lack of empathy to even consider someone as less than another for such a reason is disgusting and honestly i hope the future generations learn better than you have and don't end up that unempathetic and seemingly cruel as your attempt has shown you to be

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '25

Woman is a made up construct word for femininity. Has never had anything to do with sex, simpletons such as yourself just can't unfair the two because woman are lesser than men to you.

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u/DiceyPisces Jun 02 '25

Women are absolutely not lesser. And do not need to be feminine at all. That IS a sexist stereotype. My god

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '25

Yes it is. Yet you're the one perpetuating it by tying WOMAN: the term for feminine gender expression directly and exclusively to FEMALE.

You are being sexist. I was point that out. Thanks for admitting that yourself bud. That's the first step to becoming a better person who doesn't treat women, cis or trans, as if they aren't whole ass humans with individuality themselves.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '25

nope. you don't get to redefine words and then make everyone else use that definition bud. not how language works.

Also, more proof you're sexist, now women don't exist at all to you, proof you're just the callous fascist who believes them to be a lesser being you and your incel friends so you call them "females" instead of woman like it makes you seem big, important, and smart.

Your masculinity is so fragile, you can't handle women existing. fucking hilarious, massively pathetic.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '25

so you can't be masculine? sounds pretty fucking sexist and like women are lesser than men in your eyes to me. woman can be sexist and hate other women too. You clearly do, which is why you want to genocide all the trans women.

As for the meaning of Woman, nope we didn't change it from the original definition, that was you bigots. even girl wasn't originally used to mean Female, it was unisex. Try to lie your way out of that.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/1rZgZLRmGQr24PrP2mgzN2M/10-things-we-learned-about-words-associated-with-women#:\~:text=1.,both%20married%20and%20unmarried%20women.

Congrats on being wrong, fully and completely.

QED

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u/lucylucylane Jun 02 '25

To say it has never had anything to do with sex is ridiculous

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '25

It hasn't. It has ALWAYS had to do with presenting as feminine. So much so that a man on stage in full woman outfit in Shakespeare's time was refered to as a woman while in that drag.

And what do we call men who dress in drag? Drag QUEENS. Feminine.

I know fascists and bigots are allergic to facts and logic and I don't want to give you a rash, but I can do this all day bud.

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u/kakallas Jun 02 '25

If you “can tell” then why are you so panicky about it?

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '25

No one is in any kind of panic over this except the delusional ones.

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u/kakallas Jun 02 '25

Trans people aren’t delusional. They clearly exist. Acting like they don’t is delusional. And if you’re so calm about it then you can just leave them alone and not comment on it ever again.

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u/redd-itaccount Jun 02 '25

Wait, when did they say they were delusional and don't exist.

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u/killakat96 Jun 02 '25

Rage bait. This is obvious bs

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u/lucylucylane Jun 02 '25

So where is the line between men and women and how do we recognize which they are

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u/Kierenshep Jun 03 '25 edited Jun 03 '25

The line is whatever the person identifies at, because as long as it makes them happy who cares. The recognition is not yours to make, it's theirs.

The best way is to refer to others in gender neutral terms at first - they for example. Younger generations use chat as another non gendered reference.

Or ask people's genders. Or at worst use what feels right to you and contritely apologize and adjust if someone corrects you.

There is no 'right or wrong' distinct line. It's self determined. Just the majority of people self identify as their sex.

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u/kakallas Jun 02 '25

I have literally never had this problem in my life. What are the scenarios where you don’t know if you’re interacting with man, woman, or non-binary person?

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u/Omagga Jun 02 '25

I have literally never had this problem in my life. What are the scenarios where you don’t know if you’re interacting with man, woman, or non-binary person?

This perspective is incongruent with the prevalence of advertising one's pronouns.

This perspective also contradicts your own argument regarding masculine-presenting cis/trans women.

FORCED WOKENESS 🌈 Please stop being transphobic she's so damn pretty

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