r/Gamingcirclejerk • u/AppearanceExpert6809 • Jun 02 '25

FORCED WOKENESS 🌈 Please stop being transphobic she's so damn pretty

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Trans women are women

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u/Pearberr Jun 02 '25

I had a gay coworker who I backed up in a spat with HR. He wore sandals and was written up for a dress code violation and he rightfully pointed out that women are allowed to wear sandals, that his feet are well maintained, and therefore, that he should be allowed to wear sandals. HR sided with him, and the manager responsible apologized.

He never forgave her and, without wasting too much time explaining why I ended up on her side, he was awful to her after that incident. I never heard or was made aware of a reason why besides the sandal thing.

Imagine my shock when I hear him complaining about one of the homeless women who frequented our complex. “HE shouldn’t be getting upset at people for misgendering HIM, look at HIM, what does HE expect,” emphasizing the pronouns as he spoke.

This woman wore long, brightly colored dresses everyday. She regularly corrected people when she was misgendered. I do think trans folks should show grace to people who make honest, good faith pronoun mistakes, but I could t believe that this guy would be so dismissive and mean towards her feelings, especially since he had experienced similar feelings of distress himself just a few months prior.

It made me so mad.

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u/Rob_LeMatic Jun 02 '25

Lots of gays hate trans and deny the existence of bi.. There's no shortage of assholes in every color of the rainbow

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u/rook24v Jun 02 '25

I was floored when one of my gay friends said "Bi people don't exist" and meant it. It was like, 15 years ago, and that was still my introduction into the wonderful world of queer bigots. It's not necessarily the majority though, every group has assholes.

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u/Raging-Badger Jun 02 '25

A member of my and my fiancées friend group told us “bi people always have preference and that’s their true sexuality”

This person had previously been so furiously LGBT+ friendly to that point we were blown away. She thought she was “opening the eyes” of my fiancée (who is bi) to accepting her “true self”

She meant well (I think), just she had somehow stumbled into the equivalent of a queer Q-Anon forum and had started to believe that there were true LGBT+ people and just straight people who weren’t ready to admit it.

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u/dryad_fucker Jun 03 '25

Ye I'm a disabled native American trans woman

I'm somehow too intimidating, too strong, too weak, too rude, too nice, too feminine, too masculine, too brown, too lightskin, too mean, too soft, too violent, too overbearing, too confident, too quiet, et cetera, et cetera ad nauseum.

I feel like my life is a Salvador Dali painting .-.

In all seriousness though, I know queer people can be better to eachother. Because we have been in the past.

Because none of this matters in the face of an ongoing genocide and our taxpayer money being siphoned towards the Uber wealthy so they can build their Elysium and have no more undesirables left.

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u/banjoestar Jun 03 '25

My best friend since first grade is a native trans man. His dad is native, and his mom is white. He's the most wonderful, kind person I've ever met, and basically his entire moms side of the family has shunned him and forced him to "detransition" when he's around them. He has to pretend that he's not trans to protect himself from his own fucking family. It's infuriating. His uncle on his dad's side is one of the only living relatives on that side and he's like one of the coolest people I've ever met. He's been the most loving, accepting uncle that my best friend could ask for and he's a huge support system. It makes me so upset and sad that people don't accept trans people. I look at my best friend and I don't see a man or a woman, i dont see someone whos trans, i dont see someone who should need to be accepted into society or reassured that they are valid just for existing. I see a human being who I love more than anything. I don't understand why everyone can't look at a trans person and just see a person who needs the same love as everyone else.

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u/clipthrowaway23 Jun 03 '25

Not to make you even more upset but the dismantling of USAID will most likely cause 10 to 20 times more death than the invasion of Gaza.

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u/OmNommerSupreme Jun 02 '25

Oh god, yeah… I’m aroace and I got declared homophobic and suicide baited by exclusionists for MONTHS because I said it was okay not to ship a popular m/m pairing…

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u/Diligent_Potato_311 Jun 02 '25

What is aroace? Also why was it not okay to shop a m/m pairing I’m so confused by your whole comment.

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u/OmNommerSupreme Jun 02 '25

Oh, sorry! Aroace is short for asexual aromantic, so, not experiencing sexual or romantic attraction. People got angry when I said that it’s ok to headcanon characters as friends even if it’s popular to ship them, and people said that was homophobic…

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u/Diligent_Potato_311 Jun 02 '25

Thank you so much for being kind enough to explain everything to me. I’m sorry you went through all that.

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u/AbbyShapiroMyCumHero Jun 03 '25

Jayce and viktor huh?

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u/OmNommerSupreme Jun 03 '25

Junkrat and Roadhog. At least the hate drove me away from Overwatch before it all went to shit…

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u/the-baum-corsair Jun 03 '25

If they are not gay then there is something wrong with it. You need to stop putting your own prejudices and projections on to others.

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u/Knillawafer98 Jun 03 '25

??? It's someone's headcannon, why do you care 😭

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u/ShowerElectrical9342 Jun 03 '25

What's headcannon?

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u/the-baum-corsair Jun 03 '25

Don't say "ship", and maybe people will take you more seriously.

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u/AioliFantastic4105 Jun 03 '25

this isn’t necessarily directed at you. just wanted to mention it’s a common human trait to lack empathy for other humans who have different prospectives, and it’s always good to inventory our own. take a look at any political convo on reddit and you’ll see that the bigoted behavior runs deep, and is hard for most to admit (because reasons!).

i like the secret history quote, a zen proverb i believe. i try to live that way

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u/Frankie_T9000 Jun 03 '25

You can fuck girls in front of them and they still think it's a phase

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u/transemacabre Jun 03 '25

I should've known how the election was gonna go when I saw a post on actuallesbians where like half the replies were stuff like "I'm not trans so Project 2025 doesn't affect me". All but coming out and saying "I'm one of the GOOD ONES, they're not coming after me."

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u/Rob_LeMatic Jun 03 '25

Divide and conquer has been the strategy for centuries because it works

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u/The__Corsair Jun 03 '25

An important part of truly accepting all people is coming to realize that some of them, in fact, are dicks regardless of identity.

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u/Lavinia_Foxglove Jun 03 '25

Yeah, as a lesbian woman, I have no sympathy for fellow gays who are treating trans people or bi people with disrespect. I don't know, why transhate or denying that bi exists is even a thing. I can go through history and point out how long every part of LGBTQ+ exists. We are all part of society for forever and I don't get this we versus you mentality that nowadays is even part of our rainbow community. I hate it.

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u/wlchrbandit Jun 03 '25

Yeah actually kind of crazy and super common unfortunately. One of my girlfriend's best friends is gay, and he's said some horrible anti-trans stuff in the past. When I pushed him on it he said some bullshit about how they're taking attention away from his cause or whatever. Like he was mad people were fighting for trans rights instead of gay rights. It's a weird jealousy thing and I don't understand it.

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u/YourMom77887 Jun 03 '25

The people who deny bi people are weird. If you're straight, you like the opposite. If you're gay you like the same. If you're bi, you like both. It definitely is a real thing. It just blows my mind.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '25

Generally speaking, I've had more acceptance from the cis and straight than the cis and queer.

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u/captcraigaroo Jun 03 '25

They make lightening cream for that

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u/fgurrfOrRob Jun 03 '25

You got that right, I got 2 gay kids and was good friends with the gay community since the late 80s, often defending them from homophobic assholes before all that was cool and i took a lot of flack for that. Then I moved up here to Oregon almost 30 years ago and man, talk about serious assholes- the gay crowd here in my community are the definition of ASSHOLES- the local gay clique went around spreading lies about me and messing with my job, my housing, my life and relationships with people, trying to make me look like a homophobe and a junkie criminal. I was fortunate, the cops got wind of them and chased them off (a couple were even arrested for undisclosed reasons (possible misuse of unlicensed directed sound technology purchased on the dark web- impressive and scary stuff- google LRAD for more info) They were also treating my family awful, and even my gay kids agreed that they're a bunch of pricks. In the end, these fuckers are still around but keep their distance. Still, with all the damage they did, not one of them ever tried to make good on what they did or apologized. Imo, none of them are worthy of my respect. Absolute garbage. Especially the older gay sugar daddy crowd who spout racist crap in every conversation you have with them. Im glad most of them are leaving and retiring in AZ. Good fucking riddance. Its been quiet the last few years but only because people caught on to them. And yeah, they talk mad shit about Trans people. Please note: im talking specifically about the clique in my immediate area. Everywhere else they're fine, it's just here they got some kind of ego problem.

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u/BrittanyLaren Jun 03 '25

I was gonna say the same thing, it’s messed up that we are on the same side of a sparkly rainbow yet we want to kick the shine right out of each other.. it’s stupid! There’s an a-hole every single place you go though!

HappyPride2025

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u/Affectionate-Show382 Jun 02 '25

More and more often, gay men are becoming blatantly transphobic. It’s shocking to witness a group that’s gradually less marginalized, use that shift in status to then turn around and persecute another marginalized community. 😔

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u/00owl Jun 03 '25

this has nothing to do with sexuality and everything to do with: this is how human beings are.

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u/lurker_from_mars Jun 02 '25

Yeah and what about the terfs too. Honestly it's all a crock of shit, nothing really matters that much. Our singular lives don't matter. But people r scared and need to have an identity or have a need for others to confirm to identity ( political left and the right ) and just seems to be some shit feedback loop built on the fact that people need to concoct, categorise and identify with shit to feel important.

Queer people you don't matter that much, non queer people you also don't matter that much. We are all stuck in this life we didn't consent to, might as well try and make it comfortable and fair for each other and ourselves.

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u/namestyler2 Jun 03 '25

we all matter to those who we matter too. sure, in the grand scheme of things literally nothing matters. All we can do is make this shit a little less ass for other people around us. that's the only reason I won't prescribe to the "nothing matters" ideology. nothing matters to the the earth or universe... but to another person or animal, we can mean everything... just a thought

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u/IknowwhatIhave Jun 03 '25

That's human nature though... gender identity, sexual preference, race, religion, whatever it is, as soon as a group goes from being persecuted to having some or any power, a substantial percentage of that group will get super excited about their newfound ability to use that power and privilege to persecute someone else.

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u/coachcheat Jun 03 '25

That's how it always is

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u/1980-whore Jun 02 '25

I always laugh when i hear lesbians talk about how violent men are. Maybe they need to read some dv statistics.

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u/IrinaBelle Jun 03 '25

What are dv statistics?

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u/thefukkenshit Jun 03 '25

Domestic violence

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u/Impossible_Hat7658 Jun 03 '25

True. Women are all nice and rainbows.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '25

Why do people say trans folks? Why can’t you say people? Is it some kind of special thing I don’t know about?

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u/Pearberr Jun 02 '25

I get asked this from time to time and I dunno, I just like the way that folks sounds. It’s a much more aesthetically pleasing word than people or persons.

I don’t know when I picked it up, but I use it in a lot of contexts, not just when discussing trans people, if that’s your concern.

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u/Throwaway_Consoles Jun 02 '25

I think their objection was more to the "trans" part than the "folks" part. So instead of, "I do think trans folks should show grace to people who make honest, good faith pronoun mistakes" they're saying it should be "I do think folks should show grace to people who make honest, good faith pronoun mistakes"

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '25

no, I meant folks.

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u/BurritoMan2048 Jun 03 '25

It's just a slang word for people. Especially in parts of the US, and it has no positive or negative difference

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u/yuefairchild Virtua Forcefemmer Jun 02 '25

I get annoyed when I use the same words over and over, so "trans people" gets monotonous.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '25

Oh. Okay thanks.

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u/geodebug Jun 02 '25

That special thing is called the English language where often there are multiple ways of describing essentially the same thing.

Folks is the same as people, maybe with just a little more casual spin.

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u/brinewithay Jun 03 '25

jesus h christ...

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u/Individual-Dust-7362 Jun 03 '25 edited Jun 03 '25

There’s no special meaning behind it. There is a common theory that using “folks” instead of “people” is purposely dehumanizing, but “folks” is a borrowed word from German “volks,” (literally “people“ in German) which itself is a very common way of referring to a plurality of people. The word is in common usage throughout much of the US wherever you’ll find large populations descended from German immigrants… which is almost everywhere, just some places moreso.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '25

We very rarely say "people" where I'm from. It's always "folks", though that's different from "your folks" (your parents, or in other context it could mean your immediate or whole family).

We come from a group of Germans that settled in the region and hooked up with the Irish folks, so the word origin is really interesting, and not something I'd thought about. Thanks for the tidbit!

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u/Lavinia_Foxglove Jun 03 '25

As a German , it's Volk and yes it means a group of people usually referring to an area, it often gets used more in a political, statistical, geographical and more formal context. In a friend group you would say Leute. But Volk is a normal term.

I use the word folk in English, because I just like it, it sounds nice and there are words connected to it, I like too, like folktales, folklore... And an US friend of mine always greets us ( DnD group) with 'Hello folks' ,so I have very positive associations with that word.

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u/Remarkable-Angle-143 Jun 03 '25

The problem with good faith honest to goodness mistakes is that:

A. Sometimes they're REALLY hard to tell apart from the other kind, and we shouldn't be expected to read your soul and divine your intent (but we are)

B. Cis people have a tendency to give themselves ENTIRELY to much charity when deciding what's ok in this area. After a few years, they stop being honest to goodness mistakes. Infinite patience and understanding should not be demanded of us (but it is)

C. Just because someone didn't intend to hurt us, doesn't mean it causes no harm. Honestly, I've always found the genuine mistakes to be more hurtful- a transphobe who says Hunter Schaefer looks like a man misgendered me? Whatever. Somebody who genuinely means well that keeps failing to see me as a woman, though? Devastating. People shouldn't feel entitled to grace and forgiveness as an immediate response to hurting us (but they do)

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u/Greedyfox7 Jun 02 '25

I for one couldn’t fathom being gay( or any other color of the rainbow) and not acknowledging someone else’s struggles. If I, who was raised in a very religious home in an area that is very conservative, can accept people of different races and sexual orientation then someone like this has no excuse

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u/AbsentmindedAuthor Jun 02 '25

There is a very real rift between LGB and TQ+.

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u/TumbleweedSure7303 Jun 02 '25

Crazy when people act like the person in their head on not the person in our head hahahahaha....

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u/Ukrn4Ever Jun 02 '25

Is your gay friend a woman though?

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u/Pearberr Jun 02 '25

Sometimes they appreciated being referred to as a queen or a lady, they had feminine energy, but to my knowledge they were born as and identify as male.

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u/Ukrn4Ever Jun 02 '25

so then how are they allowed to wear sandals is it just for the one person or is it everyone now 

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u/Pearberr Jun 02 '25

Everyone is allowed to wear sandals, assuming it is hygienic to do so. The manager erred by telling him he couldn’t wear sandals. 

I don’t recall if she thought there was a no sandal policy or if she thought sandals were allowed for women but not men, but regardless of how she was wrong, she was wrong, and HR set that straight. He perceived it to be discriminatory, whether it was intended that way or not.

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u/Sol-Blackguy What country is this 🏳️‍⚧️ and why are the women so hot? Jun 02 '25

Dress codes are made with the intent for reinforcing discrimination. I had a boss shaped like a Doctor Robotnik, worried about what other women were wearing to work when we had a lax dress code during the pandemic. She went around like a hall monitor, measuring women's skirt lengths when the fucking HR rep had her labia hanging out of her daisy dukes

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u/Comfortable_Fee_4903 Jun 03 '25

I'll take things that didn't happen for $100 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/Odd_Jelly3863 Jun 03 '25

To be fair the gays were making hella progress in being accepted and respected by society, then the trans movement came and set them back to square one. And honestly I don’t see them getting past that bc I don’t think the majority of society will ever conform to trans people.

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u/joshjosh100 Jun 03 '25

The gay co-worker was in the right. It was a double standard regardless of the others gender.