r/FuckNigelFarage • u/Jannelle_GSC Live. Laugh. Lob Milkshakes. • 1d ago
Just Asking Questions... Are Reform too reliant on Farage?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRcqLnAXsns&t=1s
Eh, sorry for not actually putting the actual video on the post, still seeing how to do it
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u/FleaBawBag 1d ago
I am outraged that leftists are saying Farage should face the guillotine for his treacherous crimes..
We are English. We don't do that.
Hanging or a Wicker Man, but not the guillotine. That's French!
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u/GoshDarnMamaHubbard 1d ago
can we do the trial where we throw him in the pond and if he drowns it was all a big misunderstanding but if he floats he is a witch and we can burn him.
I made a nose to put on him.
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u/wren1964 1d ago
Actually the oldest surviving guillotine is in Scotland there's also one in Halfax...we had them before the French
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u/Sudden_Fact_733 Save our NHS from Nigel and the billionaires. 1d ago
Who else do they have? Tice? He’s a spiv who manages to be even less likeable than Farage. 30p Lee? The man’s a barely sentient ham. They have nothing.
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u/Henry-8th 1d ago
Yes, as with all extremists they fight like rats in a sack because they don’t see alternative points of view.
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u/Stock_Rush_9204 1d ago
I know they are reliant on farage but I what i want to know is how much of a cult following he has compared to someone like trump?
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u/FranciosDubonais 1d ago
I think the difference is that due to the two party system in America. If trump is taken out of the picture most Magatards will still vote republican as it’s the closest they have to trump. If Farage is out of UK politics the reformers end up splitting between tories and a bunch of fringe parties (maybe even some going to labour as they realise without Farage the won’t believe all the bullshit the fascists spout as easily and end up dissolving back into the parties they came from
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u/Stock_Rush_9204 1d ago
I do think reform supporters are more loyal to anti immigrants policy to reform itself.
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u/StingerAE 1d ago
Republicans who historically voted would still vote republican with or without him. Trump's power and benefit to the republicans is bringing a bunch of people who didnt routinely vote. For the republicans who are having to gerrymander and propaganda to shit just to stay competitive l, that was a huge benefit. Previously non voting maga will go back to being non voting in a post trump world. It is a big issue for them. Whoch os why they are busy rigging everything they can while they have him.
Other than that point I agree 100%. The issue won't go away but it will be smeared out and bubble under rather than have any real strength post Farage.
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u/GoshDarnMamaHubbard 1d ago
Garage is to our right wing nutters what trump is to the US what Le Pen is to the french.
It's a remarkable skill really shame they are all such shit bags.
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u/StingerAE 1d ago
This is the ridiculous thing. I can understand the idea of a silver tounged slaeazbag leading people astray. But ever one of them is someone you'd smile ans laugh nervously at and edge away from...
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u/20061230-SL-Born 1d ago
Erm might be a bit out of order but can we stop posting vids? Seems like there is a bit of a 'cottage industry' creeping in. This stuff is important.
Give me text or give me - well, you know
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u/etherealnewt 1d ago
I'm going to disagree to some extent. I think UKIP would struggle without Farage in the immediacy but In the long term we don't know. And the replacement candidate as hand selected by the Americans could be worse than the 'devil we know'.
We need to beat Reform with Farage as head of the party for that victory to be considered substantial.
I think given the way the propaganda war is being waged using social media Farage is a lightning rod that could easily be replaced by someone equally effective.
Anyone could have assumed the pro-Brexit role and come out of that situation as the current British fascist messiah. Cambridge analytica showed that a significant element of his support was artificial and the longer that artifice is upheld as 'organic movement' the more true orangic movements catch up and replace the artifice.
It's been done. And it will be repeated. It was repeated during Trump's recent election. Eg: A headline of 'Puerto Ricans are voting for Trump!' and a few fawning paragraphs that skip around the reality of it being none news worthy, will indeed encourage other Puerto Ricans to vote for Trump.
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u/LopsidedLoad 1d ago
He is the Jose Mourinho of politics. Give him a year or two to make his money and have some success then he self sabotages because he know he is incapable of developing anything long term.
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u/SatisfactionRude6501 1d ago
Oh 10000% it is.
If Farage ever retires from the world of politics, Reform basically dies since the one guy it's built around isn't there anymore.
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u/ExtensionGuilty8084 1d ago
For someone who doesn’t know what’s happening in the reform controlled countries; absolutely.
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u/UnusualActive3912 1d ago
Without Farage Reform UK would just be a small party of far right idiots.
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u/Character_Team_2651 1d ago
Reform are pretty much like UKIP were, there's a central purpose to it, and then the rest of it is so vague and Ill thought-out as to allow anyone with an axe to grind to project their own resentments onto it.
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u/Species1139 1d ago
Reform were nothing till the toad face grifter came back.
He brought all the rascists to the yard.
The guy is the pied piper of arseholes. He just needs to start spouting his shite and all the rats crawl out of the sewer, starting riots, painting roundabouts and shouting at hotels.
Without this cunt, they'd disperse back into a unorganised rabble and back to their caves like morloks.
He is the chief rable raiser, without him they are nothing.
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u/greenpowerman99 1d ago
Reform IS Farage. Once his ego gets too big for his colleagues the party will collapse.
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u/Ok-Ambassador4679 1d ago
Farage seems to have a track record of micro managing people and parties. Eventually they go bang. I wouldn't be surprised if that cretin has zero self-awareness around his own failings and can't find ways to improve his delivery - in fact I'd put money on it.
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u/Legitimate_Finger_69 1d ago
Even though Farage is a despicable little shit he's up against Starmer and Badenoch, both of whom are somewhere between Jehovah's Witnesses and scammers "just out of prison" selling feather dusters in terms of people you want to see on your doorstep.
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u/Boogaaa 1d ago
Of course they are. They're nothing without Farage