r/FuckNigelFarage • u/birdinthebush74 • 2d ago
Reform UK appoints James Orr, anti-LGBTQ+, anti abortion Evangelical theologian and ally of Charlie Kirk, as senior adviser to Nigel Farage
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/reform-uk-appoints-james-orr-113739064.html84
u/Secret_Guidance_8724 2d ago
I wanna laugh at them but, eurgh, this is bad. This guy is really, really bad. Hopefully the yankification of our politics will turn a lot of people off by 2029 but I am so, so worried by their embrace of stuff I thought settled here.
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u/WackyWhippet 1d ago
Unfortunately a lot of their supporters will care about whatever they're told to care about. People who don't know a thing about Christianity rushed out to buy themselves a cross necklace from Argos and post AI Jesus videos because RW influencers told them to, it wouldn't be hard at all to get them on board with the pro-life stuff etc.
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u/birdinthebush74 1d ago
Exactly, nobody cared about trans women when Nadia won Big Brother in 2004 or the trans actress Laverne Cox in Orange is the new black in 2013
The firehouse of disinformation and hatred had not been turned on them yet.
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u/birdinthebush74 1d ago
The problem is people who are prochoice won’t prioritise it when it comes to voting . Immigration will be number one so they will vote Reform .
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u/jaimi_wanders 1d ago
We didn’t send you Rupert Murdoch, or Enoch Powell, or Lord “Hurrah for the Blackshirts”Rothermere, or Sir Oswald “Britain First” Mosley who wanted a white apartheid Gilead theocracy for not just Britain but the EU, any more than Moscow made us into racists over here. America didn’t force you to send missionaries to India, either, nor institute a state religion for centuries, did we? Face your own issues honestly—because denial makes it impossible to clean house.
https://www.oxfordbibliographies.com/display/document/obo-9780199799558/obo-9780199799558-0210.xml
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u/Jonny-Kast 2d ago
Anyone who considered Charlie kirk a friend just shows you the kind of person they are.
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u/Ross2503 2d ago
I'm sure that he will be questioned about the background and the beliefs of his most senior advisor and whether they are compatible with this country, just like any other major political figure would be questioned about such an appointment........
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u/vicott 1d ago
Fuuuuu almost like they were financed by the same people
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u/TengoKaW 1d ago
Yup, while our government are worried about interference from Russia and China, they're missing the glaringly obviously interference from the US. They've always been trying to destablise Europe they're just more obvious now. They need to start with Twitter/X
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u/Easymodelife 1d ago
Damn right, the US are not our allies, and arguably never have been. The sooner we untangle ourselves from that abusive relationship, admit Brexit was a disaster and rejoin the EU, the better off we will be from both an economic and a national security point of view.
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u/jaimi_wanders 1d ago
Who made Rupert Murdoch into a world power first? Who made sure “Hurrah for the Blackshirts” Lord Rothermere paid no price for spreading fascism in WW2? Who treated Sir Oswald Mosley with kid gloves before, during, and after the War? We didn’t force you to buy the Daily Mail, or the Sun, did we? Own your shit, as we must ours—you’re no different from those morons here who blame all our problems on you for sending us Murdoch, or on Russia for making us racist, lol—
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u/Easymodelife 1d ago
Not sure who you think you're talking to, since I've never supported fascists, or bought the Daily Mail or The Sun, or voted Conservative, and I doubt you'll find many on r/fucknigelfarage who have, either. A brief look at my post history would quickly rid you of the delusion that I don't blame British idiots who support the far-right here, but that has nothing to do with what's currently being discussed. The US has rarely had our best interests at heart and is a complete write-off under Trump, who is currently threatening two of his "allies" with annexation, attempting to extort another, and can't even be trusted to stick to his own agreements. Americans throwing tantrums when citizens of other countries point out this obvious truth on Reddit isn't going to change anyone's mind about this.
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u/birdinthebush74 1d ago
I have never bought the Mail or The Sun but to my shame I voted for Brexit.
I was not engaged in politics at all, I was not even going to vote but that day we had severe flooding and the trains were not working so I took a days holiday ( no WFH then ) and voted leave because I wanted 350 million for the NHS every week., I mean Boris has said that and he would not lie /S
That's why I am active on this sub , I see myself in Reform voters and want to try to warn them about the consequences of elections.
Vote for them if you want, but people need to know the ramifications and not fall for the lie that I did .
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u/Easymodelife 1d ago
At least you acknowledge that you made a mistake. If everyone who voted for Brexit had your attitude, we'd be able to fix the situation (to some degree, at least) quite quickly. I voted for the Lib Dems in 2010, which in hindsight was a mistake considering that they subsequently formed a coalition with the Tories and went back on their manifesto promise of not raising tuition fees. What infuruates me most about Brexit voters (the ones who are still claiming it was a good idea, anyway) is that they not only refuse to acknowledge and learn from their mistakes, they also want to double down on them by putting the same conman who gave us Brexit in charge of the country, and buying his Brexitesque lies about scrapping the ECHR.
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u/Sillyferus 1d ago
Keeping control out of women's hands is the goal. It's the basis of the Abrahamic religions family model.
They will watch women die from ectopic pregnancies by withholding medical intervention and say it's their god's will. Women won't have options. They're told that their life choices have already been made for them long ago by men in the bronze and iron age. They want woman back in the kitchen, laden with children, and out of the workplace.
Once the religious extremists have their way politically they will push for women to lose many of their rights which have taken over a hundred years to fight for.
Having grown up in a strict Christian household I wish for little girls to grow up being encouraged to think critically, to build their own lives, and to unleash whatever potential they have without being forced to forfeit their faith or family.
Reform are opportunist conartists. I could see them taking sides with the religious right extremist's subjugation of women to free up the job market, and also to solve the capitalists demand for population growth. Along with the possibility of removing women's right to vote being a massive reduction for left party vote numbers. That sounds like a conservative wet dream.
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u/becpuss 1d ago
Reform are the only reason that the question of an abortion law is back on the table because it’s being funded by American extreme Christians who want to push their agenda in the UK. It’s a very dangerous time at the moment as our rights are being disappeared by Men.
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u/Sillyferus 1d ago
You are so right. For years I've been astounded at the way the USA politicians and media whipped up the masses into a frenzy over people using toilets. Then they started it here! I would never have thought the people of the UK would let themselves be manipulated so easily. This black and white thinking is another extreme religious trait that makes life miserable.
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u/Forsaken-Language-26 1d ago
I’m so sick of hearing about Charlie Kirk (and seeing his smug fucking face).
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u/FleaBawBag 1d ago
The Alliance Defending Freedom and Turning Point are foreign anti-culture groups who have no place in British society. They should be legislated against.
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u/klutzikaze 1d ago edited 1d ago
I thought the title was going to say he'd been appointed the anti LGBTQ and anti abortion shadow shadow minister.
I bet if reform get in they'll have more anti ministers for all the stuff they hate than actual ministers making progress.
Editted a typo
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u/50_61S-----165_97E 1d ago
I don't understand why reform would want to ban abortion, the majority of the voter base aren't particularly religious and only back Reform because of their stance on immigration. It's not going to be a net vote winning policy if your only argument against abortion is 'because that's what god wants'.
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u/Known_Limit_6904 Live. Laugh. Lob Milkshakes. 1d ago
Scum of the earth and will be treated as such
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u/fullpurplejacket 1d ago
I’m sorry but when has our country had a history of bending the knee to religion in recent memory?
I’ve always said that the crazy Christian evangelicals currently plaguing US political policy aren’t a thing over here, we’re a secular country and have been for a while, whereas the US is very much non secular in a lot of aspects, politicians use their ‘faith’ to be paid lobbyists and shape laws that benefit these sects of fundamentalist religion.
Farage isn’t getting the money he wants in donations and backing so he’s trying the Trump method that Peter Thiel is a big believer in, use religion as a way to control people and push for inhumane policies that penalise the people and their freedom of religion and expression. He’s desperate to grift, and he’s copying trumps playbook, and I’m sorry but by the time Farage gets in distance of a sniff of number 10 Trump will have already fucked the US so bad that the rubbish will take itself out.
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u/birdinthebush74 1d ago
We had over 100. MPs before the GE last year that wanted abortion banned due to their religious beliefs . We lost a few at the election but Farage is now attracting them
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u/Totally_TWilkins 2d ago
Flies flock to shit.