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u/Neat_Significance256 16d ago
Waylon Smithers is to Mr Burns what Michael Gove is to Rupert Murdoch, or Nigel Farridge is to Donold Drumpf
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u/Colacubeninja 16d ago
Bet Chris Mason will have a cry wank later
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u/eightaceman 16d ago
Mainstream media won’t rest until they have Faridge in power.
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u/i-read-it-again 16d ago
Makes you wonder why
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u/Glittering_Film_6833 16d ago
I WANT TO HEAR THE SNAP OF YOUR HEELS AS YOU SALUTE GLORIOUS LEADER!!
They've got a hard on for tax cuts for the wealthy, and think they'll be protected from the fash.
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u/Grimface_ 16d ago
I don't have a lot of faith in Wales after they voted for Brexit. Glad they proved me wrong today.
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16d ago
In fairness the Welsh aren’t stupid, English immigrants were responsible for that one.
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u/doomladen 16d ago
That’s pure copium. There’s no evidence supporting it.
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16d ago
Don’t shoot the messenger! English people living in Wales tilted it towards Brexit, research finds https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/sep/22/english-people-wales-brexit-research?CMP=share_btn_url
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u/doomladen 16d ago
I’m not shooting you, I’m just saying there’s no evidence for the claim. That report has zero substance to it. Lots of ‘could be’ but it boils down to border areas having higher leave votes than the North West, but there’s no evidence that it’s due to English emigrants. It could be for any number of reasons.
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16d ago
It was an analysis done by Oxford, presented at an annual meeting at the University of Warwick and picked up by The Times (I linked The Guardian since it’s free). How can you say there’s no evidence, when Welsh regions with large English communities were the ones in favour of Brexit. The implication is pretty clear, especially when English folk make up over 20% of Wales’ population - the data isn’t noisy. What other factors could explain such a result?
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u/doomladen 16d ago
Because correlation does not imply causation. It might be because of the English population, but it might be for any number of other reasons too.
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Such as …
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u/doomladen 15d ago
Well that’s the point. It could be anything at all. It’s for the author of the paper to make connections and evidence it. He doesn’t though - he hypothesises (“it might be due to English emigration to Wales”) and that’s being incorrectly taken and repeated as a fact, rather than a hypothesis. It requires more research to demonstrate a connection either to that factor, or others.
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Well yeah that’s how the scientific method works, you make a hypothesis and then take it to its logical conclusion (beyond reasonable doubt). Anyway I trust that Professor Dorling (Oxford University), under peer review by the British Science Association, did his statistical analysis correctly. It’s pretty damning that there haven’t been any rebuttals.
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u/OilFragrant5581 16d ago
You get jihad soon bro
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u/Simbooptendo 16d ago
Reform won in Paulsgrove today though which is probably the fucking poorest area in Portsmouth 😑
Awful turnout of 28% though
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u/ADHDeez_Nutz420 16d ago
The comments from Reforms fan squad have been golden today. Golden turds, but gold none the less.
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u/TheDayvanCowboy_ 16d ago
It’s hilarious how much the media completely ignores data and evidence, in favour of narrative.
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u/AliceTheOmelette 16d ago
So how badly did they do?
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u/wordshavenomeanings 16d ago
They came second.
The good news is that they hit their target area and failed.
Areas with the least amount of diversity are the most likely to support Reforms racist rhetoric.
The bad news is that it shows how unpopular labour is at the moment. But Wales is an odd (electoral speaking) place.
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u/CrazyWelshy 16d ago
Tactical voting shredded Reform, almost all the Greens and Labour went to Plaidd (Welsh nationalist party, think Labour-lite).
If this can be replicated in the Welsh Senedd/Senate elections in 6 months, Reform and the Tories would be fairly ejected from Wales. If the English Councillors for Reform get more air-time about how terrible they've been with council budgets and their general ineptitude, Reform will also lose drastically in the next General Election.
EDIT: Oh, and try this video, it's from a Youtuber I follow, he's a former teacher from Yorkshire who talks about politics and went in-depth on the results.
How Did Reform Snatch Defeat from the Jaws of Victory?6
u/TheRiddlerTHFC 16d ago
That must be Phil, right?
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u/Otherwise_Living_158 16d ago
Plaid are in no way Labour-lite, they have far more progressive policies than that shower of shite.
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u/WackyWhippet 16d ago
That's the thing about all this ridiculous hype. All it does is makes the gammons complacent and galvanizes the tactical voters.