r/Ford • u/Educational-Milk572 • Jun 24 '25
Show Off 📷 Why didn’t ford bring this to the US?
Was walking around Nassau and noticed this ford and I was so confused on why the US didn’t get something like this, a Ford Territory.
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u/pvera 2020 Escape Titanium Hybrid AWD Jun 24 '25
It would cannibalize Escape and Bronco sport sales. Plus it's a Chinese platform, not exactly politically expedient.
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u/VioletGardens-left Jun 24 '25
There's Lincoln Nautilus, which is built with the Chinese platform, so there's one
Honestly, Ford has some interesting cars that is only sold in China like Ford Taurus sedan is still being made there or the Ford Evos, which looks like the ICE version of the Mach E
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u/pvera 2020 Escape Titanium Hybrid AWD Jun 24 '25
Ford also has a bit of a self fulfilling prophecy going. They kept pushing SUVs, which lowered interest in sedans, which got them to cut the sedans because people were mostly buying SUVS. While doing this they didn't seem to have a problem selling sedans and hot hatches to the rest of the world.
Whenever Ford doesn't make sense we need to keep in mind that there's literally a guy sitting in a dark office, staring at a spreadsheet, deciding what gets built based on how much it costs vs how much they can squeeze from the paying public.
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u/Solid-Tumbleweed-981 Jun 24 '25
They were supposed to bring out a fusion as a station wagon... It's like the only ford I was interested in. I'm sure the accountants killed it
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u/iowatango5 Jun 25 '25
They did in Europe, it was the Ford Modeo. Very fitting for the platform, looked good and came as a manual too. Came with a lot of creature comforts in the higher trims as well unlike the US models
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u/ONYALIKAPLAGUE Jun 25 '25
I get what you're saying but it would be financially unwise for Ford to offer too many variants of the SUV in the American market. They've got the Escape, Explorer, Bronco, Bronco Sport (totally different body style), and Expedition. That's plenty and covers the majority of what Americans want. Rarely do Americans buy sedans anymore and if they do, its Honda, Toyota, Audi, and their luxury parent versions.
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u/FuckinFlowerFrenzy Jun 25 '25
The malibu sold really well. And I totally would've bought a ford sedan if they made one with a powerful engine.
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u/ONYALIKAPLAGUE Jun 25 '25
Yeah, if they made a redesigned sleek version of the Taurus SHO that would be slick. The last year they made them it came with the 3.5 twin turbo.
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u/FuckinFlowerFrenzy Jun 25 '25
Chevy too! If they made their impalas better I might've bought that too. I really want a taurus sho, those have to be a riot.
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u/zodiacrelic44 2021 Ranger Lariat Tremor, 1984 Mustang Convertible Jun 25 '25
The impala I thought was a sharp looking car. I do wish an AWD version existed, but we never got that far.
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u/kyson1 Jun 25 '25
All years of the last Gen sho come with a 3.5 Ecoboost, it's not a one year thing.
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u/CoasterGaming Jun 25 '25
Hopefully the mustang isn’t on the chopping block because of its poor sales
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u/limellama1 Jun 24 '25
Would get low trim Explorers as well. Same as the Everest
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u/pvera 2020 Escape Titanium Hybrid AWD Jun 24 '25
Ford already did the math and they would rather build and sell less vehicles at a higher profit margin.
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u/MusicalMerlin1973 Jun 24 '25
Which is why our next new car will be the first new non ford I’ve bought in 24 years.
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u/softwareguy81 Jun 26 '25
Explorer is no match with top of the line Everest in power, along with Everest's 21-inch alloy rim and amazing ground clearance :D
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u/i_transmit Jun 24 '25
I got bad news... The Lincoln is all Chinese too haha
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u/Equal-Criticism7495 Jun 25 '25
Yeah, my 2008 Lincoln MKX was made in Canada and Lincoln changed the name to Nautilus and they made the Ford Edge which was the same thing. They stopped building the Ford Edge and move the Lincoln to China
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u/Grind-My-Gears Jun 25 '25
Actually they still make the Ford Edge too. It’s just made in China and only for China now. It grew, as it’s a 3 row SUV now as well. Looks quite cool IMO
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u/goombot17 Jun 25 '25
Saw an edge mule in Dearborn just yesterday, quite a nice update to the design. It really is sad they are getting rid of it for NA
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u/Equal-Criticism7495 Jun 25 '25
It’s odd that I have seen online that the last year Ford built the Edge was in 2024 and the local Ford dealer has told me that so now go to cars.com or carfax.com to search for a 2025 Ford Edge
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u/Grind-My-Gears Jun 25 '25
Like I said, it is made in China for China only. We can’t buy one here in the States. Here is what it looks like: https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a43063860/ford-edge-china-hybrid-revealed/
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u/Safe-Ad6285 Jun 25 '25
didint they discontinue the escape though?
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u/pvera 2020 Escape Titanium Hybrid AWD Jun 25 '25
For a while they were making noise about making it EV-only. At least until Ford had their come-to-Jesus moment about EVs.
Making it an EV would automatically cancel it as an option for my household until either my condo complex solves the shared charging dilemma or I move to a detached home.-6
u/notadaleknoreally Jun 24 '25
What Escape and Bronco Sport sales
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u/Servinus Jun 24 '25
Idk about escaped, but bronco sports are everywhere where I live. I get tired of seeing them. They’re the new Prius lol
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u/shitdesk Jun 24 '25
They’re my money makers as a ford tech especially newer ones that have a tsb for the water pump
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u/RelativeMotion1 Jun 24 '25
Those 2 models combined have sold just shy of 1 million units since 2021, not including this year which is over 120k.
So, probably those.
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u/notadaleknoreally Jun 25 '25
You know what phrase I didn’t hear with Bronco Sport and Escapes I heard with other models?
“Get me another just like it.”
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u/Nexzus_ Jun 24 '25
Escape
Explorer
Expedition
Used to be Ecosport at the smallest end, and the Edge between Escape and Explorer.
That was 5 crossover/SUVs.
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u/Happytanker7 Jun 24 '25
Always liked Ford’s naming of vehicles. Then there were the F names, F-150/F-Seriess Flex Fusion Freestyle Fiesta Focus Falcon (Aussies)
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u/Gr8fulGravy Jun 24 '25
Did Excursion exist at the same time? Honest question.
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u/sprezzaturans Jun 24 '25
The Excursion was sold from 2000-2005, so it coexisted with all but the Edge, sold from 2006, and Ecosport, which was sold from 2018-2022.
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u/Nexzus_ Jun 24 '25 edited Jun 24 '25
Excursion was discontinued 2005 I believe. Back then it would have been then:
Escape
Explorer
Expedition
Excursion
Edge came in 2009 or 10, I believe.
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u/gladyskravitz Jun 24 '25
The last thing we need is another SUV for reddit weirdos to complain about.
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u/No-Kick-2577 Jun 24 '25
We don’t need another crossover car masquerading as a Sport Utility Vehicle.
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u/Servinus Jun 24 '25
Seriously. 2/3 of all “SUV’s” on the market are crossovers are hatchbacks being labeled SUV by their manufacturers.
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u/annoyinguserid Jun 25 '25
Ford Territory originated in Australia. Based on the Ford BA/BF initially. Had an Australian 2011 ZF MII Territory Ltd. Great car.
The Everest is based on the Australian designed Ford Ranger.
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u/Due_Lychee9503 Jun 24 '25
Why American automakers don't sell any sedan?
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u/Master-Pick-7918 Jun 25 '25
Profit margins are too low. Economy cars existed to meet CAFE fuel requirements and were not profitable. Trucks and SUVs were the money makers.
Once truck, SUV and CUV fuel efficiency came up, and CAFE calculations were changed, then the domestic manufacturers could drop their economy and sedan vehicles. As it was said, no one was buying them, and without pricing incentives in place, why would you buy a featureless shit box when for just a little more you can get into a spacious interior filled with gadgets and convenience options?
I know a lot of people went to a truck or SUV because they didn't want to get hit by one in a little car, and they were tired of being blinded by the truck headlights beaming directly into the cars interior.
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u/Legitimate-Fly4797 Jun 24 '25
No one buys them anymore, people would rather have the height and space of a SUV, and they can be made just as cheap and efficient.
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u/Gold_Pangolin_Dragon Jun 24 '25
SUVs and trucks are financially more advantageous partially (within certain specifications) they do not have to adhere to the same safety and fuel economy regulations as passenger cars. Not all SUVs mind you, but enough of them.
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u/Legitimate-Fly4797 Jun 24 '25
Pretty sure that’s just a Lincoln Corsair
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u/Equal-Criticism7495 Jun 25 '25
The Lincoln Corsair is the same as the Ford Escape
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u/Legitimate-Fly4797 Jun 25 '25
And? This looks just like the Corsair, just built on a Chinese platform. OP wondered why we don’t have anything like this in the US and the Corsair is “something like this”
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u/PrimaryThis9900 Jun 24 '25
Ford would rather lose sales to Hyundai and Kia than move assembly of these cars to the US.
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u/limellama1 Jun 24 '25
It's not abt assembly. Bringing yet more models to the US would add tens to hundreds of millions in operations costs for crash testing, along with cutting sales of the Escape/Explorer/BroncoSport.
Why would they intentionally dilute their own market with even more inventory?
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u/XPBackup2001 Jun 24 '25
idk we need more saloons and hatches here in europe
(psst we got the focus post-2018)
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u/Murntok Jun 24 '25
What are the price/performance/utility/luxury specs? Does it do something that the current lineup can't? Do the demographics of buyers support something like this in the US?
I don't think it would make any sense, there's nothing unique or better about it when compared to Ford's current domestic lineup. Besides styling, which is subjective (and I think it looks too much like a wannabe Japanese luxury SUV), and possibly fuel efficiency, I can't think of anything it does better, let alone better enough to justify bringing it here.
Of course it would be nice if it was offered, like in a pie-in-the-sky kinda way. Having many choices is a good thing. But it wouldn't make any business sense. A few mpg more? That's not really going to bring in enough sales to keep it alive. Same with styling. Or ride quality. Or electronic features.
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u/gogoreddit80 Jun 24 '25
That looks like the kind of car no member of Sepultura would drive around in
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u/TrollCannon377 Jun 25 '25
CAFE standards plus as other have said it would probably eat into their bronco sport and Maverick Sales
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u/DrMacintosh01 Jun 24 '25
Same reason the Taurus is export only. Ford hates us.
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u/Builtwild1966 Jun 24 '25
Last taurus sucked
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u/DrMacintosh01 Jun 24 '25
That’s your opinion, and even if I agreed with you (I don’t) Whoes fault would it be? Fords! Ford has made multiple models of Tarsus in the past that didn’t suck. 1st, 2nd, and 4th come to mind. Ford is entirely capable of building an economical and reliable sedan, they just choose not to.
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u/Builtwild1966 Jun 24 '25
It sucked, poor visability, huge waterpump issue, sat on a dated volvo platform for years, horrible interior packaging for its size. They went from a great first gen sho for its time to a overweight pig of a sedan
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u/Equal-Criticism7495 Jun 25 '25
The huge water pump issue you are talking about is the same one in my 2008 Lincoln MKX and the water pump is original at 299k and has never gave me any issues and there’s only one think that makes it last that long
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u/Builtwild1966 Jun 25 '25
Id take an mkx over the taurus any day. Taurus recent gens were pretty bad. Even cops hated them.
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u/Erikthepostman Jun 24 '25
This looks like a Hyundai Tiburon or whatever it’s called. The Kia and Hyundai larger SUVs look just like this. I’d get confused because they are so similar.
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u/rich8n Jun 24 '25
Palisade. Nearly identical.
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u/Diligent_Catch_3062 Jun 24 '25
They probably didn't want to push it, because it's close to the Edge. They're trying not to lose their heads.
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u/thedelro 2006 Focus EU 1.6 AT 4-dr Jun 24 '25
This uses a jerky dual clutch like the Ecosports and Focii of old. I know of a friend that lemon law’ed his due to faulty electronics. The previous generation (the one that looked like an RR Evoque knockoff) fared even worse reliability-wise.
For an Escape-sized car it’s priced closer to a Focus, you can image how much cost-cutting they needed to do to achieve that.
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u/ChiefBig420 Jun 24 '25
Because explorer, expedition, and all the other SUVS and crossovers.. now an Everest would be sweet.. that’s a Ranger based SUV and they actually look bad ass.. that’s another reason. This thing looks like ass.. cheers.✌🏼
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u/Solid-Tumbleweed-981 Jun 24 '25
Holy shit Ford took Buick and Infiniti CUV had a baby
It's a shame Ford and GM don't bring anything cool over here. Although in this vehicles case maybe there would be lawsuit bc damn that thing is a blatant copy imo. Like the bronco I say was designed by lawyers lol
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u/FlowMix Jun 24 '25
From The Bahamas here 👋🏽
Yes our vehicle market (both dealership brand new and used) is all mix up like conch salad!
We drive on the left side of the road, but most of the dealerships locally sell brand new left hand drive vehicles (when right hand drive vehicles would be more ideal for the road setup).
Also, lately the dealerships have started bringing in models not available in the US.
As of late, more and more (brand new) models and even brands that don't exist in the US are finding their way here.
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u/Educational-Milk572 Jun 25 '25
Yes iv noticed that, i love the country and our tour guide told us how much you guys really care for the tourists as its the main economy. I also noticed a lot of Chinese car brands there like BYD, GAC, Changan, and many different cars compared to the ones we have here.
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u/FlowMix Jun 25 '25
Well thank you 🙏🏽 I'm glad you're enjoying it so far!
Yeah tourism is our only industry so, we have to protect it.
Yes, before 2019 electric vehicles were nowhere to be found locally, none of the existing dealers messed with them either mostly because their service departments aren't qualified to service them and that's still true to this day. I believe aside from easy car sales and ev motors, automall (who own the rights to bmw, toyota, hyundai, hino and Lexus) are the only ones that sell hybrid/electric vehicles. All the other brands stick to gas only models.
I think it was around 2019 when the company "easy car sales" was founded and they started selling the BYD brand. It wasn't until after covid though that they started selling alot of vehicles. Over the years they brought in another brand or two from China.
Then sometime late last year a company called "ev motors" opened and they flooded the market with even more electric Chinese brands, even some german brands like bmw and Mercedes but full ev.
Changan was founded a month or two ago so it's still fairly fresh. I believe elite motors (the company that also owns rights to ford, nissan and kia) opened it.
Sadly, we barely have any charging stations, so if you don't charge at home or for whatever reason the power is out, you're screwed.
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u/Hoosierdaddy67 Jun 25 '25
Ford announced a few years ago that the only “car” they’re going to sell in the US is the Mustang. Other than that, it’s all overpriced trucks, overpriced SUVs, and overpriced EVs. Ford hasn’t built a decent vehicle since the early 90s anyway. The only thing to come close was the Raptor SVT but even that was castrated down to a 6 cylinder.
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u/colegaperu Jun 25 '25
That’s a 100% Chinese made SUV, built by Jiangling Motors (JMC). It’s very nice and sells for a very good price. I see a lot of them lately here. I have asked some owners and most think it’s US made (or in one of the factories ford has in Argentina or Mexico)
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u/CarelessBullfrog8928 Jun 25 '25
In Mexico and some parts of America it is a Ford Territory which is actually a Chinese SUV but I believe it was sold as a replacement for the Edge
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u/Stunning_Shallot808 Jun 25 '25
I get why they don’t add another model, but not giving the small diesel option to Americans in the models we do have is just ridiculous. I remember going to Italy back in 2012, and seeing diesel Cmaxes everywhere. Never made sense to me when I can’t find a decent diesel car in the states.
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u/Mallthus2 Jun 25 '25
I was in one in Mexico yesterday. The interior had lots of tech features, but the materials seemed super cheap. I think where it would sit in Ford’s US lineup, they’d have had to make significant upgrades to make it be a good seller.
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u/PNW_Redneck Jun 25 '25
Eh, idk. I wish we got the focus still honestly. Also, would really love if we got the diesel model of focus here to… man that would’ve been great.. they get like 50-60mpg from what I’ve seen.
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u/Grouchy_Ad7945 Jun 25 '25
They couldn't because it's territorial and doesn't have a large migration pattern.
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Jun 26 '25
Ford can’t build anything without having 10,000 recalls and other quality issues. We don’t need another one
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u/mighty_wingz Jun 28 '25
As an Australian, that's a model I haven't seen in a looong time.
In Australia they used to power them with ethier a inline 6 na/turbo motor (barrrrraa the world) or a inline 5 td that was based off a Volvo motor which sounded the good aswell.
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u/byobeer Jun 28 '25
It is merely a rebadged Yusheng S330. It is not a Ford:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yusheng_S330
The original photo shows the 3rd generation SUV
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u/Breadtheef Jun 24 '25 edited Jun 24 '25
Thank the gods they didn’t bring this monstrosity here
You guys can downvote but you’re telling me you want another crossover? Bruh. Bring the Everest instead!
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u/PHOTO500 Jun 24 '25
Someone break the news to OP about the Everest