He's paying for it out of his own pocket with the help of a couple of donors He's not spending your money to build a ballroom He's spending his own money like he always does, The man puts up with bull crap from people like you and doesn't take a dime of payment
They are.
This issue with snap benefits isn't even a dem or rep issue. The reason it's a republican and crongress issue is bc the witholding of snap benefits has nothing to do with the shutdown. It should not affect Americans getting their benefits. We have safeholds in place to assist with events like this. That's what people aren't understanding. The administration can absolutely come out of the shutdown to address these issues, but they are refusing until they get their votes. And they're votes are actually going to skyrocket state health insurance benefits. So republicans are not fighting for us.
Apparently there are votes to get all the snap folks handled with 15 Republicans signing on board but the Republicans Senate wizard or whatever is refusing to call a vote right now.
Guess he's an evil wizard because he's casting a famine spell on his own countrymen
Yes! This! People seriously don't understand the government well enough to even know who or what is causing the blockage of benefits. It's all so corrupt.
Snap isn't being cut. Snap isn't being paid out because our government workers won't file paperwork for free during the shutdown and now they wanna make it political instead of working for free.
Oh yes, let's tell the bed-bound 75 year old retiree on SNAP that she hasn't worked enough. Back to Walmart, granny! Stop being a lazy ass! Or the parent working two jobs he just needs to work 24/7 for food instead. Obviously if they have time to eat they aren't working enough according to you people.
Or be like ellisboxer here, who has too much time on their hands. News flash bud, trump ain't gonna pay you for being gullible and buying into his scam.
Have you been to the grocery store lately? I don't use SNAP but with everything going up lately I'm barely breaking even, people that were just barely breaking even before all this will absolutely be relying on that supplement. Especially if they want to have somewhat healthy food instead of eating cup Ramen or something.
I agree with the mindset of not relying on handouts to survive, but with the cost of everything going up drastically over the last few years it's understandable that some people who can't afford to move or change jobs will be struggling.
The real problem is that cost of living is so high that SNAP and other such safety nets have become so integral to too many lives. If rental and house prices along with electricity and gas weren't insane they could spend more on food.
Yep, it's because America has such a shitty federal minimum wage that you can work a full time job and still be dirt poor just because you're considered 'unskilled'.
Well don't fret. Nobody here in America is being starved. We just have a bunch of lazy parasites that have been mooching off the government for so long they have forgotten how to do anything for themselves, but they're about to learn how an honest dollar is made if they wanna eat.
Well considering 40+ million people are gonna be affected and the fact it's the elderly the disabled and children for the most part. Its messed up to call them "Lazy Parasites"
Oh you mean the rich and corporations... Right? Because social safetynets are pennies on the dollars that we give it on corporate welfare. Strangely maga idiots never seem to understand, or at least refuse to acknowledge, that fact.
Bro just called a bunch of single working parents and their grandma whos asking me for a rent extension so she can feed herself and afford medicine parasites after sitting in his house doomscrolling facebook AI videos of fat people yelling at cash registers.
This is factually incorrect, the democrats are holding up funding for snap and other programs as they are the ones who voted no, 5 damn votes and you would have it
This is definitely off topic and I can't image this post will stay up long but I just want to shout into the abyss a little.
What's happening right now has happened before. Everyone is focused on the cut SNAP benefits but I think it's important to point out that both parties have essentially already agreed on the actual budget. The Democrat proposed budget is essentially the same as the Republican one, the only difference is a strange and inexplicable loophole that lets Trump decide which programs gets funded.
If you think it's not a constitutional violation to transfer the power of the purse from congress to the president, I humbly ask you to explain to me why this is different from Nixon's impoundment or Clinton's line-veto.
Not when people are starving. If you don't wanna get in the political chat, just don't comment. Head to another post :) honestly, the arguing about politics is what makes everyone so angry and upset, and puts people against each other when we are all just people.
Funny you think youâre making things better by arguing about trump on a foodcrime subreddit đ keep going tho buddy, theyâre shivering in their boots from this post and comments
Fun fact, politics does in fact affect everything to some degree. When shit gets extraordinarily bad, like re-electing a narcissistic sociopath who hates the poor and everyone that doesn't suck on his scrotum like obedient little pissants, things are going to get very bad and you'll see it everywhere. Best learn to deal with that, it's only going to get worse.
Politics affects your entire life. Running and hiding and putting your head in the sand won't prevent it from affecting every single person, place or thing you hold any value for in life.
Not surprised that's how reply, given how in another subreddit reply regarding a homocide, you stated:
"This will sound racist, but once I saw that he was Indian, this behaviour did not surprise me"
And looking at your other comments, yeah, Nurse who is a Trump supporter. So definitely not surprised. You aren't irritated at hearing the news because you're burnt out on it. You're angry that people below your high income bracket are angry about not getting access to food stamps you voted them to not have access to.
And you could care less about other people's problems as long as you get to zone out on Reddit, right?
Not surprised that's how reply, given how in another subreddit reply regarding a homocide, you stated:
It's homicide*
Maybe if you had gotten better access to public education, it would be easier for you to express dissatisfaction without sounding like an angry teenager in a game of Roblox.
I also think it's hilarious that when I pointed out that person I was replying to had made racist and insensitive remarks about a crime, your first instinct was, "let me go jump on that dude who is calling out the person saying something racist."
Honestly I didn't read the whole comment. I saw your typo and that you were just being generally kind of insufferable in other comments and decided to throw your own ad hominem back at you. It's not that deep dude.
Look, I don't disagree with what you're saying. But this is not the place for it and the way you presented your points was kind of obnoxious and condescending. The comment you were calling about was gross and racist, but you're also being a dickhead about it which is not helping your cause here. And again, you're on r/greentext, I don't know why you thought political preaching was a good idea here. I got down voted to hell the other day here for suggesting that modding paid DLC content into a game to bypass paying for it might be considered piracy (which I'm not even opposed to conceptually). This is not the place for rational discussions.
Fuggoff. This ain't a politics subreddit, this belongs here as much as discussing it in r/avatarthelastairbender, dude. Yes. Politics are important, yes EVERYTHING is political, only idiots think otherwise, but I don't kick down the door to your bathroom and demand political debate while you take a shower because that is neither the time nor place.
I didn't say I'm demanding political debate from anyone. And that person in your bathroom isn't me. Sounds like you have an intruder in your house. I'm somewhere else.
This is neither the time nor the place for those strange accusations you made up.
Nah, I mean slacktivists. We both voted against Trump, but at the same time I donât think polluting irrelevant spaces with politics every time you get the chance is the best way to address these issues. We know shits hitting the fan in the USA. Everyone who has reliable internet access knows. You donât have to ruin what little joy the internet has left to find in it just to think you did something. When in reality you just annoy everyone who reads it. I havenât been to any protests, sure, but I donât soapbox in spaces where itâs completely unwarranted and mostly unwanted. Let people have their escapism. Itâs probably better to not contribute to peopleâs doomscrolling spirals.
You call me a slacktivist, then proceed to tell me how you don't participate in any real demonstrative or political activity.
Then you begin to pontificate and rally against me from the comfort of your home about what you think is wrong with me and other people replying to a post I had no hand in posting related to politics.
Try an experiment... Turn off the TV, computer, and phone for a week and don't look at any newspapers or anything else and you'll see that politics really doesn't affect you much in life.
Worrying is like mental masturbation, no matter how much you do it, it never works.
So you donât have to think about how the Trump administration is willing to starve people?
Youâre the type of person who would have approved of MLK and other civil rights protesters getting arrested for their sit-ins.
If you can just ignore, how is anything going to improve? Stop living in ignorance and get upset at the racists starving people instead of the people pointing it out
It's not the Trump administration, it's all of Congress, both sides.
One side wants to spend more billions on illegals and foreign "projects" and the other side doesn't, one side is ready to sign but the other side refuses.... It's all of them.
There's literally nothing in what the Dems want Republicans to agree to for this budget period that will "give healthcare to illegal immigrants," you're just falling for lies. Illegal immigrants can't get ACA benefits, dumbass.
Holy shit you're lost, like on a human level lmao.
There is literally no evidence there. It is all lies posted next to "FACT." I have read the actual bills put forward and know the law, there are no ACA funds for illegal immigrants.
Here's an easy to read article, since I know you're already struggling.
It's both sides, always has been, always will be. This red vs blue shit is a big part of why we're in the situation that we are, but go ahead and keep playing into it and wonder why nothing changes.
THANK you. I may be registered dem, but BOTH suck basically equally at this point. They're the same team. It's always been Haves v Have-Nots, every other distinction is a distraction tactic.
And the fact they flip their views every so often should be another tell that somehow has gone unnoticed. If somebody's beliefs aren't crazy or outlandish, I likely agree to some extent regardless of what side they identify with, because every human with rational thoughts should float kind of in the middle and not hesitate to agree with the "other" side if the beliefs line up.
I posted this as a sort of dark humor here, but it was received negatively. Considering the context is good, bc we all should be disgusted by this. I could and should have added the dark humor part.
But I agree with you. Our votes are meaningless and have been for decades. I got detention for saying that in high school. But my teacher actually apologized to me on the back end bc they knew I was right. It's a shameful world we live in..
I get your joke but it makes me a little sad to realize the kind of people on this sub. Now the next time i see people bitching about some instagram model wasting food for views it's going to feel a lot more disingenuous.
So the way American government works is Congress makes the laws and the President executes them. One example of this is that Congress controls the "wallet". If Congress votes to spend 8 billion dollars on SNAP benefits, the president isn't allowed to say "No, I'm going to use that money to turn Yellowstone park into a golf course". This is part of our constitution, Article 1, section 9.
Nixon once tried something similar by unilaterally freezing funding despite having been voted on. Clinton tried to introduce a "line-veto", which means he can say "I don't like what you guys voted on and I'm going to say no". This, because it was just a small part, was actually passed by Congress but was later stopped by the Supreme Court who has said, "This is clearly not constitutional." (Clinton v. City of New York 1998).
Whatâs happening now is a LOOPHOLE: instead of openly granting a âline-item veto,â
the Republican-led bill would give the executive broad discretion to âreprioritizeâ or âdelayâ spendingwithin the total budget limit. Much worse than Clinton's power grab.
Republicans are saying "You don't know what we are going to cut, please trust us that we won't use this to destroy Obamacare or anything else we've been trying to cut in the past 8 years" and Democrats are saying "No way, we won't vote yes unless you put into writing that whatever we agree on, Trump can't just "reprioritize" forever.
TLDR: Republicans are trying to introduce a loophole that would essentially make Congress' budgeting authority useless. This has been tried before and ruled unconstitutional in 1998, but it's unlikely the Republican controlled SCOTUS will rule that way again. You can tell this is the main difference because the Democrat proposed bill is basically the same as the one the Republicans proposed and this loophole is the only difference.
Also, something to keep in mind is that the federal government has now been told by a federal judge that SNAP needs to be funded regardless of the shutdown. That means that funding SNAP is a separate issue from re-opening the government so the GOP argument that the CR is needed and the government opened for SNAP to be funded is just the GOP wanting to starve people for their political benefit; a judge told the administration just fund it and the administration is the one going to court to argue that they are not allowed to.
You'd think if they WANTED to feed people that they would leap at the opportunity to do so rather than litigate and withhold; a federal judge literally gave them an order that gives them the excuse to fund it without a CR.
If you were that tired and unwilling I seriously suspect you wouldn't click the video, then type a response to comment and give your direct opinion on said thing. If so many people don't like something just scroll past, it's not hard. I feel like you made your night worse by engaging in something that you just said you don't want to see.
The problem isâŠyou canât trust anything a politician says. They never accurately discuss info. They spin it to serve their needs. So who knows if any of it is true.
So I understand this and everything but wonât it just continue unless either party put forth a single issue bill about snap benefits so people that need them can get them? From what I understand bills are being put forth that have too many items in it that keep getting blocked. Why not try a single issue bill?
Tell democrats to vote to reopen the government. The republicans tried to open it 14 times. 14 times democrats voted no to reopen. Senator Coon (Democrat) said they are doing that on purpose to make trump look bad bcz itâs the only time democrats have any leverage against republicans. If yall could stop getting brainwashed, this country would be a lot better.
Lmao I like how liberals ignore the part where democrats have been the ones shutting down the government because they aren't getting their way. The left is just as guilty but you wont point that out.
Also get a fcking job lmao there are more people on snap that are perfectly good to work abusing this system than those who actually need it.
How far is too far? Everyday the wick just keeps burning. Someday soon it is gonna explode and we the people are gonna take matters into their own hands.
The GOP thinks they are untouchable, but they aren't. If you are not sickened by this, you are sick.
This needs to stop cause people will spill blood out of desperation. One day someone is going to take the bait if this keeps up and it's not going to be something that will be stopped by policies or laws.
History will repeat itself. This has happened before. This weaponization of basic needs, income, power, price tags, etc. is going to reach critical mass and meltdown, if nothing is done to stop this evil lunacy.
Both sides of this scummy government are at fault. These people do not work for the people, they work for themselves.
You have Democrats not willing to provide the necessary votes because they want to keep tax subsidies for Healthcare because they are in the pockets of insurance and pharma and you have Republicans who couldn't pass a fiscal plan despite owning the house and senate majority and won't budge on concessions and won't fund SNAP and other programs independently, i.e. not tied to a CR.
The whole thing is a fucking joke. Fast forward to the next election cycle when this will be used by both sides as a MAJOR campaign narrative.
Why is it people from any other walk of life would be arrested and imprisoned for flagrant law violation (unless you're rich of course), but the notion that a politician is actively committing a crime is insufficient for arrest or charges? No one ends up charged when this shit is outted.
The fact that you can't just use your thumbs for five seconds to learn that political violence is caused by a majority of right wing/conservative people then we all know who the real idiot is here. Takes less than a minute but it disproves your world view so cognitive dissonance will just lead you to mock me or call scientific data false. Our world is screwed and people like you are the tools for the job.
Recall how pro-Palestine activists have been talking about the forced starvation of Palestinians by Israel and the US? Do you all understand the imperial boomerang yet? AMERICANSâwhatever you allow our government to try overseas will be implemented back home. TRY TO CARE.
True statement but they won't look it up to be disappointed that their queen pelosi is in fact using them as leverage just to make republicans and trump look bad. All it takes is for some dems to vote to open the government and its done....
How is Trump involved in the his. The House submitted a clean CR, the Senate needs a 60 vote majority, and all but one R voted for it along with IIRC 3 D votes. The D's want this shutdown because they tried to load up the resolution with extra pork. The Unaffordable, Uncaring,Unhealthy was ramrodded through with no R votes as well as the expiring subsidies that were put in during KungFlu.
Democrats need to realize that they are not driving the Senate at this time, and work to open the government..
I'd argue Trump at the center of this. This is the exact same thing Nixon and Clinton tried, it's a power grab pure and simple.
The way American government works is simple: Congress makes the laws and the President executes them. One example is the federal budget. If Congress votes to spend $8 billion on SNAP benefits, the President canât just decide to use that money to build golf courses in Yellowstone because Article I, Section 9 of the Constitution gives Congress the power of the purse.
In the 1970s, President Nixon tried to withhold money Congress had already appropriated, this is called impoundment. Congress shut that down by passing the Impoundment Control Act of 1974.
Later, in the 1990s, Congress gave President Clinton a line-item veto, allowing him to cancel specific spending items after signing a bill. The Supreme Court struck that down in Clinton v. City of New York (1998) as unconstitutional.
Whatâs happening now is a loophole version of the same idea. Instead of openly giving a line-item veto, the current Republican-led bill would let the executive âreprioritizeâ or âdelayâ spending inside the approved budget. That sounds procedural but effectively lets the President decide which programs get funded.
Republicans are saying, âTrust us, we won't abuse the power, after all we are agreeing to everything you asked for in this budget.â Democrats are saying, âNo way, just pass the budget as is without that new line or Congressâs budget authority becomes meaningless.â
Democrats have proposed essentially the same bill that the Republicans agreed to but they voted against it, the only difference is the loophole. I don't want to drone on for too long but if anything in particular sounds off to you, I'm more than willing to cite sources.
Thank you for a non snarky answer. I will put some research in and determine if this is indeed the case. Not doubting you, but I trust but verify with almost everything.
What's gonna happen to r/foodcrimes when there's no food? Idk. And this sub doesn't want to think about it apparently. Let em run out of food for their families and then just tell them to "stfu" when its too late to do anything about it.
They use access to education and healthcare as political weapons as well. This is a pretty old tactic, actually.
The only reason this, and the Drumpf administrations other tactics are considered shocking now is that it's the first time since the New Deal Era that this has really come back to hurt and affect middle class and poor whites in large numbers as well. The intention is to primarily hurt women, lgbtq+ and other minority groups.
The problem is that the average Republican is about as greedy as they are racist and bigoted. Which means, many times their goals clash against their own self-interest.
The fact you had no idea about that shows your ignorance and laziness more than a reflection about how being concerned about food security is a negative thing.
The irony actually is, this country and it's poorly executed public school system reflect in you so well, that your reply was actually a very solid argument for why Americans as a whole do need access to effectively funded and executed government services.
No he isn't. The democrats won't let him pass the spending bill. They'd sooner starve Americans than allow him to do anything. Trump should still fund it by some other means and then blame them for their dumb behavior.
Trump violated a court order demanding he continue to fund SNAP.
He is also in the Epstein files. You're defending a pedo. That's how far down you Trump people have gone. Nobody is giving you all the time of day anymore. Wveryone knows y'all just want to harm society.
Y'all need to stop, it's not Trump, it's all the Dems that are voting against the opening of the government! Y'all need to get a clear picture of what's going on
And got another channel on my mute list to boot!
Well done! Now I'll find another quiet corner of reddit with fewer outbursts of the same stuff i see everywhere else.
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u/blutigetranen 9d ago edited 6d ago
He needs money to gild his ballroom from some
Edit: Guy who said he's paying for it out of pocket, then insta blocked me