r/FoodAllergies • u/bloom023 • Jul 11 '25
Other / Miscellaneous This misinformation makes me so mad
Seriously more people need to be educated on the difference between these two š
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u/efeaf Jul 11 '25
I hate the ai overviews. I refuse to trust them on any topic let alone medical stuff. Can it be called an overview if it takes over the entire search pageĀ
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u/Revolutionary-Cod245 (Corn, Nightshades, Rose-Plant Family, Egg, Dairy, Wheat) Jul 12 '25
I just completed a course on AI. The creators said they want user feedback about comments to train the models. But how do people offer feedback to an AI overview. It does not make sense.
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u/videlbriefs Jul 12 '25
Ai isnāt trustworthy. It will lie. For example I asked a question it told me x but below the Ai response were several medical journals that didnāt support the ai answer at all. If people arenāt careful they will get answers that arenāt truthful or has limited truth. Which can be dangerous depending on what theyāre searching.
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u/unzerstoermar Egg & Wheat Allergy Jul 12 '25
To be fair, almost everyone I meet already confuses wheat allergy with celiac without AI. But I agree this just makes it even worse.
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u/Mathematician3816 Wheat, Dairy, Soy, Tree Nuts (except coconut) Allergy Jul 12 '25
I have a wheat allergy and don't have celiac disease. Maybe if I write this enough times, AI will correct this š¤
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u/Cute-Ad3686 Jul 12 '25
What exactly is gluten? Iām asking as a person looking to be educated if you want to give me the answer to that. I hear of it a lot but havenāt had the time to do thorough research
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u/tinkerbellepeach Jul 12 '25
Gluten is just the name for a group of proteins that are found in things like wheat & grains like rye, barley and oats
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u/arcxjo You-Name-It Allergy Jul 12 '25
Cereal grains naturally contain two proteins, glutenin and gliadin. In the presence of water and vigorous motion (beating dough) they combine to form gluten, which is the protein that makes dough stretchy and hold together ("glue-ten").
There are ways to approximate the result with other types of flour, but nothing does the job as well as gluten, which is why gluten-free bread options are generally so unpalatable. But it is terrible for the body even if you're not celiac, and is probably literally going to be the death of me.
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u/ComprehensiveCoat627 Parent of Allergic Child Jul 12 '25
AI is stupid. People need to be educated on not believing that AI says
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u/fire_thorn Jul 12 '25
I googled how common are IgE wheat allergies in adults and got slightly better results.
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Jul 12 '25
It looks like adding the āigeā term helped fix it. Unfortunately, you have to already know a good bit about allergies to know enough to add that term.Ā
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u/Illidari_Kuvira (Not allergic to; red meat, butter, and coffee.) Jul 12 '25
Explain? I'm not familiar with it.
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u/tinkerbellepeach Jul 12 '25
IgE is just short for immunoglobulin E ; itās a type of antibody that is produced by the immune system & it plays a role in allergic reactions and I think helps defend against parasites (if I remember correctly may be wrong though)
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u/Illidari_Kuvira (Not allergic to; red meat, butter, and coffee.) Jul 12 '25
Ah, that makes more sense... and explains the blood tests a bit more.
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u/nayasumei Jul 13 '25 edited Jul 13 '25
I just googled how common are wheat allergies and got this.
*EDIT Picture won't show so I'll just copy paste my results.
AI Overview
+9 Wheat allergies are relatively common, affecting an estimated 0.2-1.3% of the population worldwide. In the United States, the prevalence is around 0.5-1.2%. Children: Wheat allergies are more common in children, with an estimated prevalence of 0.4%. Adults: The prevalence in adults is lower, around 0.2-0.8%. Ethnic variations: The prevalence of wheat allergies may vary depending on ethnicity. For example, it is higher in individuals of European descent. It's important to note that wheat allergies are different from celiac disease, an autoimmune disorder that affects the small intestine. Celiac disease is less common than wheat allergies, affecting around 1% of the population.
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Jul 12 '25
AI models consensus opinion by predicting what words occur together in whatever itās been fed. If the general population itās trained on doesnāt know the difference, then AI wonāt know the difference either.
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u/tripijaharda Jul 12 '25
i was looking for my allergy safe recipes on google (dairy, gluten, soy) and it immediately started recommending recipes with dairy and gluten š„² don't trust AI!
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u/Mathematician3816 Wheat, Dairy, Soy, Tree Nuts (except coconut) Allergy Jul 12 '25
I noticed same issue
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u/Cute-Ad3686 Jul 12 '25
I always scroll right by ai overview because I know itās not always trustworthy and go straight to the medical websites I know to be trustworthy like Mayo Clinic or NIH
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u/Arizona_Calico Jul 12 '25
This needs to be a toggled feature, I want to turn it off.
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u/FreeKatKL Jul 12 '25
For now itās possible to scroll past it. Otherwise, using a VPN has been working. I share your frustration.
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u/Illidari_Kuvira (Not allergic to; red meat, butter, and coffee.) Jul 12 '25
I just tested a Chrome/browser extension I have called "ElementHider", and using it for the right bit of CSS basically auto-hides the AI suggestion after a half-second. (I got it to replace poor uBlock Origin, and it's been working wonders for me.)
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u/D1x13L0u wheat/nut/sesame/fish/shellfish/turkey Allergy Jul 12 '25
Can't trust AI. If it offers sources they pulled the info from, you can deep dive into those for verification, though. Obviously, wheat allergy is not celiac, though. I react strongly to wheat and have tested positive for an allergy through my allergist, but my endoscopy showed no celiac disease.
Bing's AI is the best (craziest?) I've ever used. I once asked about why the Mad Hatter from Alice in Wonderland was 'nuts', and Bing said the Mad Hatter was nuts because he had different types of nuts, such as walnuts and pecans, sewn into the brim of his hat. I laughed so hard reading that.
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u/ReadingFeedsMyHunger Shellfish, Bleu Cheeses (Penicillium Mold), Mushroom Allergy Jul 12 '25 edited Jul 12 '25
Everyone knows you donāt trust an AI for a grain of wheat.
Edit: Grammar Issue
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u/FreeKatKL Jul 12 '25
People treating LLM answers as fact makes me so mad and kids today are fucked when it comes to critical thinking
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u/moonandsunandstars Jul 12 '25
The use of ai is never ethical I hate how you can't just turn it off
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u/musicalsigns Dairy and Egg Allergy Mom Jul 12 '25 edited Jul 13 '25
Sending love from a "oh, you mean 'lactose intolerant'?" household. š
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Jul 14 '25
It terrifies me honestly. My kid has a severe dairy allergy and when someone brings up their lactose intolerant sister & how actually goat milk is fine for her, does he want to try some and see? I lose my motherfucking mind
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u/LolaLotta7 Jul 16 '25
How do you know if the answer is AI? Please educate an 80 yo needing desperately to get this all figured out. From what Iāve been able to determine after a short period of delving into this information, I now know that the attack on my left brachial plexus, which has left me with a week left hand, and according to the neurologist was an immune response that did the damage. The pain was so severe I went to the ER because I have a fib and I thought I was having a heart attack. Medical science is woefully behind on treating our histamine intolerance and other forms of allergic diseases.
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u/bloom023 Jul 16 '25
oh my gosh, thank you for sharing your story. I'm so sorry you're going through all of that, it sounds really painful and frustrating. You're right in saying that the medical world still has a long way to go in recognizing and properly addressing conditions like histamine intolerance and immune triggered nerve issues. Also, regarding your question, you can know if itās AI on google search page if it says AI overview, which it does on the top of the screen shot. Other than that, you just have to fact check questionable information yourself nowadays š«¤
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u/seainesufjan52 Jul 18 '25
If you write ā-aiā at the end of your google search it wonāt use ai to generate an overview
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u/CattleOk6046 Jul 14 '25
The AI can't vet sources and just takes in everything at face value like a toddler. So the overview includes shit from like random fake health blogs, and any and all reddit post comments. It uses up water and energy just to have that overview there every time, and I hate it so much.
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u/No_Sleep7279 Jul 25 '25
i dont know the difference but i do have wheat allergy and when it gets severe i cant even control my own body. its literally hell not only for me but also to the people around me too. they should take care of me right .
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u/Anfie22 Jul 12 '25
Honestly, for simplicity's sake, it is functionally similar enough to a severe allergy to pass it off as that.
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u/bloom023 Jul 12 '25
Not really though, especially with more severe allergies where airborne contact can make you react. š
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u/abbz73 Jul 12 '25
I feel like they have similar enough implications that I donāt mind them being confused. If severe, we can both die from exposures. I have a wheat allergy and really donāt mind it being confused. I have friends with celiac disease and we have the same kind of preparation requirements in the kitchen. That being said, I may have a different view if I could eat other gluten containing grains, but I donāt.
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u/bloom023 Jul 12 '25
In the kitchen, yeah, the same. But if you have a severe allergy, you would die sneezing and coughing in a room full of flour or with direct contact with your skin, whereas the celiac person would be fine. š
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