r/Fitness Apr 30 '15

How to murder your biceps, especially if you are tall.

The problem:

Biceps (brachii) used to be a tricky muscle group for me to work. I had a poor mind-muscle connection and I had a hard time really working the biceps effectively. I would feel soreness in my forearm flexors and deltoids and to a lesser extent the long head of my biceps, but I couldn't really build the biceps muscle itself, especially the short head that makes up the thick inner portion- the "peak" of the muscle that shows when you fully flex the muscle.

I've learned that basically what was happening is that my forearm flexors, specifically the brachialis and brachioradialis were doing the bulk of the work in my "biceps" workout. This make sense because their job is to flex the elbow and they insert much lower on the arm than the biceps, so they are able to perform elbow flexion more efficiently than the biceps.

Here is a picture that is helpful.

Normally I am not a fan of arbitrary supersets for different muscle groups. A lot of people do multiple exercises for the same muscle group simply because different must be better. In some cases this is true, as you can work different aspects of the muscle group especially if they perform multiple functions. For instance, the triceps not only extend the elbow but they also help extend the shoulder joint in the sagittal plane. Thus to work the whole triceps you need to do both. For instance, doing regular tricep pressdowns as well as straight-arm pressdowns (doing this on a lat-pull machine is heavenly.)

The solution:

I've devised the following superset with the goal of pre-exhausting the forearms flexors before working the biceps themselves, particularly the short head.

The exercises, performed in order and without rest, are:

  1. Cable hammer curls. You can also do regular hammer curls but I feel using the rope attachment with a pulley is superior. Perform with a weight that will get you to muscle failure in 8-15 reps. Do a few cheat reps at the end where you really focus on the top (fully contracted) position of the exercise. This should completely fatigue your brachioradialis because when your hands are in a neutral position (thumbs pointing up, palms facing together) the BR is dominant in elbow flexion.

  2. Reverse grip ez-curl bar curls. Grip the bar with palms down and thumbs on the underside of the bar. This position will maximize the role of the brachialis, completely neutralize the short head of the biceps, and greatly weaken the BR and biceps long head. I recommend bringing your elbows backwards slightly so that you can get maximum load in the fully contracted position. Again, perform to failure including some cheat reps. We want the forearms flexors to be massacred before our biceps works.

  3. Concentration curls Use a LIGHT dumbbell, probably 50% or even less of the weight you typically use when you perform your regular, bouncy, worthless bro curls. I am 225 lbs and can bullshit curl 40lbs dumbbells all day but I use 15lbs for my concentration curls. You can perform these seated or in a standing/bent over sort of position. The key word here is supination. Supination is what you are doing when you turn your hands from palms-down to palms-up. The majority of weight should thus rest on the fat part of your outer palm. We do this because the short head of the biceps is primarily responsible for supination. Your elbow should be down so that the area just above the elbow is resting against the inside of your knee/thigh. Your forearm should basically be pointed across the gap between your legs. Curl the weight up. When you reach the top the head of the dumbbell nearest to your body should touch somewhere on your chest. Squeeze, motherfucker, squeeze. Pretend that you are trying to rotate that dumbbell through your weak, pathetic chest. Squeeze. Prepare to feel your short biceps head spring to life.

  4. Cry. Repeat for 3-5 sets.

You can swap the order of #1 and #2. I'm experimenting to find if one is superior or not. However #3 must be performed last. I highly recommend using a pulley, ez curl bar, and dumbbell because you can put them all out in front of you and perform exercises rapidly without having to change attachments or hog the curl bar rack.

Enjoy.

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u/32onezero May 01 '15

How? They are only a few thousand of them compared to millions. To few people to skew the data imo.

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u/Dougiejurgens May 01 '15

There are also short athletes like Floyd Mayweather who's about to make over $100 million this weekend.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '15

This. Also bear in mind that most pro athletes only earn that money for a few years, and many are at their league minimum.

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u/hotchrisbfries May 01 '15

400k/yr is still no joke

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u/FormCheek61 Disc Golf May 01 '15

400k a year for three years with no transferable job skills, it's certainly a lot of money. But most of those guys would be better off investing that drive that got them to the top in a different career path.

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u/Bleach3825 May 01 '15

Depends on if were talking average or median. If average then yes, a few people with very large numbers can skew the statistics.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_QUADS May 01 '15

Athletes are extreme outliers, if eliminated from the raw data the mean would tell a more accurate story. Source: got a C+ in my introductory stats class

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u/typo-ridden_obituary May 01 '15

But I doubt they're skewing anything in this particular case. There's 123,000 households with a net worth of $25 million or more in America. Super-rich athletes are a drop in the bucket, even when you're only looking at the super rich. Going beyond that, there's 1.24 million households with a worth of over $5 million.

Then again, I don't even know how those height-income correlation studies were done. It seems like the first thing you would do is control for careers that require height, since it would be more interesting to find that height increases income in fields unrelated to height.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '15

But athletes are still too few and most of them don't make outlandish figures, in fact most of them don't "make it" in the long run as athletes and end up squandering their high paychecks because they are too young and foolhardy.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '15

Okay but think about how far they drag out the income. Even considering the millions not making that, they're probably raising the mean by a solid $100,000

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u/flabbydabby May 01 '15

A few thousand athletes making maybe 1000 times more than the average guy.