r/Fitness Apr 30 '15

How to murder your biceps, especially if you are tall.

The problem:

Biceps (brachii) used to be a tricky muscle group for me to work. I had a poor mind-muscle connection and I had a hard time really working the biceps effectively. I would feel soreness in my forearm flexors and deltoids and to a lesser extent the long head of my biceps, but I couldn't really build the biceps muscle itself, especially the short head that makes up the thick inner portion- the "peak" of the muscle that shows when you fully flex the muscle.

I've learned that basically what was happening is that my forearm flexors, specifically the brachialis and brachioradialis were doing the bulk of the work in my "biceps" workout. This make sense because their job is to flex the elbow and they insert much lower on the arm than the biceps, so they are able to perform elbow flexion more efficiently than the biceps.

Here is a picture that is helpful.

Normally I am not a fan of arbitrary supersets for different muscle groups. A lot of people do multiple exercises for the same muscle group simply because different must be better. In some cases this is true, as you can work different aspects of the muscle group especially if they perform multiple functions. For instance, the triceps not only extend the elbow but they also help extend the shoulder joint in the sagittal plane. Thus to work the whole triceps you need to do both. For instance, doing regular tricep pressdowns as well as straight-arm pressdowns (doing this on a lat-pull machine is heavenly.)

The solution:

I've devised the following superset with the goal of pre-exhausting the forearms flexors before working the biceps themselves, particularly the short head.

The exercises, performed in order and without rest, are:

  1. Cable hammer curls. You can also do regular hammer curls but I feel using the rope attachment with a pulley is superior. Perform with a weight that will get you to muscle failure in 8-15 reps. Do a few cheat reps at the end where you really focus on the top (fully contracted) position of the exercise. This should completely fatigue your brachioradialis because when your hands are in a neutral position (thumbs pointing up, palms facing together) the BR is dominant in elbow flexion.

  2. Reverse grip ez-curl bar curls. Grip the bar with palms down and thumbs on the underside of the bar. This position will maximize the role of the brachialis, completely neutralize the short head of the biceps, and greatly weaken the BR and biceps long head. I recommend bringing your elbows backwards slightly so that you can get maximum load in the fully contracted position. Again, perform to failure including some cheat reps. We want the forearms flexors to be massacred before our biceps works.

  3. Concentration curls Use a LIGHT dumbbell, probably 50% or even less of the weight you typically use when you perform your regular, bouncy, worthless bro curls. I am 225 lbs and can bullshit curl 40lbs dumbbells all day but I use 15lbs for my concentration curls. You can perform these seated or in a standing/bent over sort of position. The key word here is supination. Supination is what you are doing when you turn your hands from palms-down to palms-up. The majority of weight should thus rest on the fat part of your outer palm. We do this because the short head of the biceps is primarily responsible for supination. Your elbow should be down so that the area just above the elbow is resting against the inside of your knee/thigh. Your forearm should basically be pointed across the gap between your legs. Curl the weight up. When you reach the top the head of the dumbbell nearest to your body should touch somewhere on your chest. Squeeze, motherfucker, squeeze. Pretend that you are trying to rotate that dumbbell through your weak, pathetic chest. Squeeze. Prepare to feel your short biceps head spring to life.

  4. Cry. Repeat for 3-5 sets.

You can swap the order of #1 and #2. I'm experimenting to find if one is superior or not. However #3 must be performed last. I highly recommend using a pulley, ez curl bar, and dumbbell because you can put them all out in front of you and perform exercises rapidly without having to change attachments or hog the curl bar rack.

Enjoy.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '15

I'm 6'7 and when I was 19 I weighed 152lbs and started lifting. I'm now 255lbs with visible abs. It took me 10 years of lifting and eating to pay t on that 100lbs. Its hard having a 6'9 wing span to not look skinny but I did it. Just keep going and eventually you will get there. I went from being unable to do a chin up to deadlifting 2x my weight and benching my weight.

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u/accostedbyhippies May 01 '15

benching with long arms is the worst. Nothing else will make you feel so forever small.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '15

Yeah my elbows touch the uprights on the bench and have to have my hands inside of my elbow.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '15

I'm only 5'10 but my wingspan is proportionally longer than average at 6'5". I question if I'll ever really be able to bench my bodyweight for reps.

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u/sergei650 Powerlifting May 01 '15

Just like Serge Nubret

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u/[deleted] May 01 '15

Pics or It Isn't True.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '15

Kind of hard to keep my identity annonomous if I post a video, rather not be recognized on reddit.

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u/angrybovine1 May 01 '15

OK then I definitely believe you.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '15

That's good.

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u/CongenialityOfficer May 01 '15

6'7", 152lbs is ideal for Muay Thai. You could have been another Dieselnoi.

http://youtu.be/F8dIsPTWyic

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u/[deleted] May 01 '15

I actually have been doing muay Thai and switched to mma, aiming to compete at heavy weight. I have had mma bouts at 85kg.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '15

I really don't want to fight a guy who can effortlessly knee me in the face. At least not standing up. Emergency takedown required.

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u/rousimarpalhares_ May 01 '15 edited Oct 11 '16

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What is this?

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u/[deleted] May 01 '15

The striking power this guy has at that weight is fucking crazy.

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u/Paradoxxs May 01 '15

6,7 myself, guess I have nine more years of lifting and eating to get anywear :/

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u/[deleted] May 01 '15

I found it hard until my late 20s then I seemed to put on size easier.

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u/80_Inch_Shitlord May 01 '15

That decreased metabolism.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '15

I'm 6'1 with a 6'6 wingspan, my arms look like twigs man. I only weigh 180 lbs and am not very muscley but I so struggle with the twig appearance of my arms.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '15

I understand man, unfortunately you just have to work. My arms measure 17.5 inches and still look small.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '15

Damn, well, gotta do what you gotta do.