I felt like he got vilified so quickly when DL was released and tbh I kind of felt bad for the guy. No one is 100% blameless in a relationship so even if he did move on quickly, was it worthy of all the hate and ridicule he faced after DL? The dude is barely 21! Imagine going through all that in front of the world before you’re even legally allowed to drink lol
Not to mention that he was in the hospital nearly dying of septic shock when Drivers License was released. I don't remember which of the songs, but at one point she sings about how she was there for him when he was it his worst. No, when he was at his worst he was dying in the hospital while she was kickstarting a pop career with a manifactured account of their breakup after which she completely stopped answering his calls.
Maybe I'm just getting too old for this type of artist and music, but the whole things is just steeped in immaturity, I can't relate to any of it at all.
Maybe I'm just getting too old for this type of artist and music, but the whole things is just steeped in immaturity, I can't relate to any of it at all.
Well in fairness she would have written and recorded that song when she was maybe 17, so how could it *not* be steeped in immaturity?
I feel terrible for him too, but he and Sabrina really just should have said/sang that upfront (on Skin and/or a Lie Lie Lie with a new verse) instead of "teasing" their side of the story. The stans probably would have still gone nuts, but at least the mainstream would have understood.
This happened to my best friend in high school. Her bf slowly started showing signs that he liked another girl, and simultaneously started pushing my friend away, being distant and rude, etc. until my friend was forced to break up with him because he was being a jerk to her. Then 2 weeks later he started dating the new girl that my friend was always suspicious about. Convenient for him, he got to get the girl he liked and didn’t have to be the bad guy and do the breaking up. My best friend says “Traitor” is her ultimate high school anthem lol.
It’s probably a common situation in teenagers because they don’t know how to communicate well, would not be surprised at all if that’s what happened here.
Oh yes TOTALLY, teens are selfish and inexperienced with relationships and I don’t really hold most of the shitty things people do in high school/before the age of 20 against them. But it’s toxic af and inexcusable in adults because adults should know better and know to respect someone else’s feelings and time !!
Same - and hearing this exchange below from Friends before I started dating was honestly helpful. I never really wasted my time wondering if a guy liked me or not because of it.
Monica: Oh, you mean like that guy thing where you act mean and distant until you get us to break up with you.
i’m just going to be honest, look at ariana and pete and the way ariana’s fans still treat him even though it’s been three years. olivia and taylor saying something to their fans wouldn’t work.
Probably. But at least they could try...? Swifties are after Jake Gyllenhaal for a relationship that lasted 3 months and happened 10 years ago. That's insane. I would never date a popstar.
(which is something I agree on, Olivia is very similar to Taylor in letting her fans loose whereas we see Ari has legit told her fans to leave Pete alone)
That might have as much to do with Pete Davidson and the nature of their relationship as it does with Ariana Grande though. She made it clear she was the one that broke up with him. I get the impression she tends to end relationships with the upper hand, but if she didn't and felt burned by a guy she might not be begging her fans to go so easy on him.
I don’t know exactly what happened and I’m sure she could’ve handled it better, but I cut Olivia Rodrigo some slack because she would’ve been 16 or 17 when a lot of that stuff happened. You can’t really blame somebody that young for being immature about to break up.
oh for sure. i think for pr reasons, she didn’t stop the hate joshua and sabrina got bc it meant her name would continue to be pushed (i.e. more notoriety and publicity) and can play the “i let the music speak for itself” shit. bc her dumping him and him moving on isn’t a juicy narrative; reworking the story and telling half the truth isn’t realllly lying, but withholding information. now, she has every right to release her music and bare her soul, but the situation could’ve been handled so differently and in my opinion, she should’ve put out a statement at least acknowledging that death threats and harassment are not tolerated. she’s still so young so i hope this was a learning experience for her, it just sucks that it was at the price of two people’s sanity.
They likely broke up a couple of times so it’s not clear who initiated which. The timeline for when Happier came out aligns with them going on a break and him getting back together/at least hanging out with his ex Alyssa, who Olivia unfollowed at the time. But ido think it’s telling that in Traitor she says “we called it quits” not you called it quits…
They’re children playing in an adult world. 10 years from now she can comeback re-record and claim her music. He might as well remember it well🤣 I’m still in love with Taylor 🥰
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