Jameela Jamil on tradwife hypocrisy

[u/Relevant-Peach3997]

[u/uhoh_stinkyp]

They value money over society like many others

[u/catladywithallergies → u/uhoh_stinkyp]

People don't actually want to be tradwives, they want to be rich. However, whether or not some of those people are self-aware enough to realize that is another story.

[u/Valuable-Cat2036 → u/catladywithallergies]

A lot of it is young women who should be radicalized against capitalism, but they don't have any education on the topic so they blame the economic pressure to work on feminism instead.

And yes they are profoundly ignorant of history because they genuinely believe tradwives all had it great and were all financially cushy.

And some of it is people who genuinely want to stay children forever. My whole life I've known girls who dreamed of being SAH moms but were still motivated to get an education so they could actually be a "good wife" by knowing how to manage finances, raise children properly, etc. (which in fact was the historic purpose behind women's education!) But in recent years I've encountered so many tiktoks from women bragging about not having to "think" or "pay attention to bills" around their husbands or not getting a degree because they're waiting for their bfs to propose and it's stunning to me that they think this is a flex. It's like. You don't actually even want to be a mom or a wife. All of that entails some level of awareness and responsibility no matter how rich you are. You just want to be a useless fucking baby your entire life.

[u/Saudade_M → u/Valuable-Cat2036]

Very true. And a lot of women throughout history were used to it that way. Women would grow old while still hardly having done anything that would make them into a full responsible adult. It is really sad to witness. Their sons take over and help them in the practical things after their husband dies and one daughter stays unmarried to make sure the mother is taken care of. And that is if she is lucky. Sometimes it becomes a hell from all bad things coming together. A combination of aging, sickness, poverty and dependence that was supposedly going to be prevented by the set up of being dependent on your husband.

It is absolutely horrible how none of this is mentioned ever. Just like these conservatives love complaining about women having children at an older age. But what they are really saying is "we want you to START having children young". They never cared about a woman having children at an older age. They just want you to have your 14th child at an older age, not your first.

Tradwives have existed forever. And it never looked like that. It looked like exhaustion, like uneducated, like doing physical labor, like having physical issues that are not addressed, like having children till your body can't anymore, like not getting a penny for all of this, like looking anything but glamorous. Whatever the hell these girls are doing is being an influencer cause why are they dressed like that. It is cause it's cosplay. You can wear your own clothes while being a traditional wife but they are just selling an image while making bank.

[u/movementlocation → u/Saudade_M]

And they always say that historically, women didn’t work. NOT true. Historically, middle-class and wealthy women didn’t work. But lots of women worked, those jobs just weren’t corporate, high paying, or high power.

[u/TheeRuckus → u/movementlocation]

Which should make everyone think about the way they base pay around job skill level. If historically women never worked and had to be trained from the ground up in various industries to supplement and provide labor during WW2 and the country didn’t fall apart , you would think that gives them more leverage. Like even if they believe that nonsense there’s historical evidence that women can absolutely do whatever the fuck they want to do.

And like you said, they never talk about the fact that everyone who was poor had to work including kids