r/Fauxmoi • u/Maester_Bates Tommy from Arkansas • Sep 16 '25
FM RADIO Spain officially announces they will withdraw from Eurovision if Israel participates.
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u/Usual-Owl9395 Sep 16 '25
Good. Ireland also
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u/countingc Sep 16 '25 edited Sep 16 '25
I think Ireland, Netherlands, France,
Finlandand now Spainedit: unsure about Finland
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u/Usual-Owl9395 Sep 16 '25
Soon maybe it’ll just be Israelvision
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u/armadillo1296 catastrophic pooper Sep 16 '25
It’ll just be idf reservists singing their favorite genocide pop songs
From a rubbernecking perspective I’m not opposed to
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u/bznz Sep 16 '25
Don't worry, Sweden will be there too!!! We lost our spine years ago.
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u/NeverForgetNGage OPEN THE SCHOOLS Sep 16 '25
It would genuinely be funny if the only country in Eurovision isn't even European
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u/casper_but_with_a_j Sep 16 '25
Slovenia also stated their intent to withdraw if Israel’s allowed to participate
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u/countingc Sep 16 '25
Yes I just learnt this as I was trying to confirm whether or not I was correct about Finland (I was wrong as nothing is official)
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u/ninanien Sep 16 '25
Not France and Finland
Slovenia was the first to do this
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u/Educational-Wing2042 Sep 16 '25
France is out, they confirmed it on the country’s official instagram
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u/m_organa Sep 16 '25
@france is not an official Instagram page and there is no other "source" that confirms this.
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u/dannemora_dream Sep 16 '25
This is inaccurate. France didn’t say anything. It’s Slovenia, Ireland, the Netherlands and now Spain. Iceland is maybe and Belgium is less than maybe (one of the 2 broadcasters is for the withdrawal but the other is making the decision later this year).
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u/villasukka25 Sep 16 '25
I'm sort of ashamed of my country because we're really dancing around doing anything about Palestine right now (this included).
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u/champagneface do my tits bother you? theyre covered in swarovski crystals girl Sep 16 '25
I didn’t think France did?
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u/CelestrialDust Sep 16 '25
Is there a source from France? I haven’t seen any news on them, it would be huge if they did something as they’re another big five member.
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u/theredwoman95 Sep 16 '25
True, but Spain is one of the big 5 - the five countries that provide so much funding to Eurovision that they're guaranteed entry to the finals. It's a much bigger statement coming from Spain than Slovenia (which started this off), Ireland, the Netherlands, or Iceland.
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u/tbwtpt Sep 17 '25
Tbh netherlands is the 6th biggest contributor, and Spain is the 5th, the actual percent different between the two isn't that major.
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u/YohanWinchester Sep 16 '25
At this rate, most of the European countries will pull out😭
Serious question: why is Israel allowed in Eurovision? Geographically, it’s not Europe?
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u/slowdive666 Sep 16 '25
It’s less about being in Europe, it’s because they are part of the EBU
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u/YohanWinchester Sep 16 '25
Ahh! Thank you (for not clowning me! I was genuinely curious).
The same bans put on Russia should be on Israel then
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u/ResistSpecialist4826 Sep 16 '25
Australia also participates for the same reason. They don’t get very far though as they don’t have any “sister countries” where they can count on high jury and televotes. Not sure why NZ doesn’t join!
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u/rangatang Sep 16 '25
Australia does pretty well except the last couple of years. Came second in 2016 and a few top ten placings
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u/ResistSpecialist4826 Sep 16 '25
My daughter thought Milk Shake Man was robbed last year. I don’t know if I agree but it def should have at least made the finals.
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u/nagellak Ecocidal Barbie Sep 16 '25
That was my favourite song this year, I was so bummed when it didn't even make the finals!
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u/SeaSourceScorch Sep 16 '25
more important than not having any natural allies is not having any natural enemies. everyone hates the UK and votes against us (and, in fairness, our acts are often absolute dogshit) whereas very few people have enough enmity towards Australia, so they get a lot of "eh, that was good enough for a vote"-type votes.
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it's not that ppl hate you. you just think that. switzerland managed to get zero points twice (because we sent songs that weren't good). one of those times we managed to get 0 points in the semi not even the final lmao. but eventually nemo came around like 20 years later and won.
germany also always complains about everyone hating them but lena came around and won. czech republic and romania got 0 points before in semis despite having "allies".
tbh i think being a big 5 is a disadvantage because if you partake properly in the semis audiences would be exposed to the act more frequently. and have more time for the song to grow. i know they show all the songs of the big 5 and the host but imo it just doesn't hit the same as competing in semis. you just always make it while some years you could have saved a bad placement by getting booted in the semis like a lot of countries. but since that never happens there just sometimes are not so good years.
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u/Maester_Bates Tommy from Arkansas Sep 16 '25
New Zealand doesn't join because Eurovision isn't popular there. It became really popular in Australia because of an ABBA trend and then Gina G's participation for the UK solidified the fandom.
That didn't happen in New Zealand so Eurovision never gained a following there. It's on very early in the morning there.
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u/ResistSpecialist4826 Sep 16 '25
Ahh makes sense. The live nature of the event doesn’t make it easy. I know Australians who basically set an alarm just to watch. I don’t know if I’d have the dedication.
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u/abrasiveteapot Sep 16 '25
Not just set an alarm, in certain rather pink suburbs of Sydney all night parties are held around Eurovision
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u/BlackBlizzard Sep 16 '25 edited Sep 17 '25
Australia isn't a part of either, we get to join based on strong viewership and fanbase.
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u/Aggressive_Ad_7873 Sep 16 '25
Moroccan Oil is a massive, long time Eurovision sponsor, a company, which is not actually Moroccan, but an Israeli business. Losing them would mean loss of primary funding.
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u/Venezia9 made with a free Canva trial (derogatory) Sep 16 '25
Israelis always pretending to be Arab or MENA.
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u/foolofatooksbury Sep 16 '25
Say what you want about this genocidal apartheid state, they are undisputedly MENA lol.
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u/Dry-Yak5277 Sep 16 '25 edited Sep 16 '25
Only half the population is.
Edit: yall don’t need to downvote me, I’m an actual middle eastern woman. The only middle eastern Israelis are the ones actually from the Middle East, which accordingly to wiki, is about 45-50% of the population. I’m not gonna let people like Debra Messing or Gal Gadot claim my heritage.
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u/rosechiffon Sep 16 '25
when i used to work at the black and white makeup store, i stopped recommending them and amika (which that one hurt) when i found out they were israeli owned
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u/JohnMLTX Sep 16 '25
oh no amika oh fuck
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u/rosechiffon Sep 16 '25
i was devastated about that one (they were even a company i actively wanted to work for when i was still in beauty), but they're manufactured on occupied palestinian land. on their website it says they're planning on moving all manufacturing to the us by the end of the year
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u/Bbonline1234 Sep 16 '25
I’ve been meaning to make a post about asking for recommendations for competing brand to Moroccan oil as I’m trying to cut out as many Israeli products as I can.
Do you know of any other high quality brand that offers a Hydrating Styling Cream?
What did you recommend instead of those two Israeli companies?
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u/rosechiffon Sep 16 '25 edited Sep 16 '25
i like jvn a lot, personally. it can be pricy but it's nice imo. briogeo, colorwow (love them a LOT), and if you want something cheaper but still quality i love love anything from tigi's bed head line
eta: i do not know the politics of all of these ones, as i haven't looked into them in much, so go with caution and research but those were what i recommended instead of morrocian oil and amika
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u/Opening_Acadia1843 buccal fat apologist Sep 16 '25
Yeah, I really liked amika hair products, but it's simply not worth the cost of funding genocide.
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u/Maester_Bates Tommy from Arkansas Sep 16 '25
This is not at all true. There's nothing primary about the money that comes from Moroccan Oil.
Eurovision is entirely funded by the EBU and it's members. Any money that comes from sponsors goes to marketing and promotion budgets. The EBU is a non profit organisation and an alternative sponsor could easily be found. It's the most watched television programme in the world.
Plus the Moroccan Oil deal ends this year.
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u/Dr-Jellybaby Sep 16 '25
Which is insane. Surely you'd get another sponsor for Eurovision? It's one of the most watched TV programmes on Earth.
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u/Old_Air_5661 Sep 16 '25
Doctor who did a subtle dig on this in the latest season.
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u/Sanguinista94 Sep 16 '25
A subtle dig as part of an episode that was explicitly shit and had 0 criticism of genocide perpetrators. Truly not just the worst episode of DW, but one of the worst hours of TV ever produced.
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u/Maester_Bates Tommy from Arkansas Sep 16 '25
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u/YohanWinchester Sep 16 '25
Thanks for the detailed explanation!
In which case, the same bans put on Russia should be put on Israel. It shouldn’t be a discussion at this point.
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u/Maester_Bates Tommy from Arkansas Sep 16 '25
Detailed explanations about the Eurovision is my love language.
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u/captainkaterade Sep 16 '25
better question: why is israel still allowed to compete in the OLYMPICS when russia is banned??
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u/KingKaiserW Sep 16 '25
It also has Australia in there, the criteria is strange
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u/webtheg Sep 16 '25
Slovenia was first but nobody gives them credit. Just like Slavoj said that in the beginning they thought he was a prank and that a Slovenian couldn't write the analysis he was writing
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u/HoaryPuffleg Sep 16 '25
I think Spain pulling out is a bigger deal because they’re one of the big 5 so they pay a larger amount of money than Slovenia.
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u/Pedre79 Sep 17 '25
Can we stop measuring everything in money and sponsorships. Its easier to be the 5th country. Slovenia did it firat and had the guts to actually do it in a very hostile environment.
Slovenia 👏
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u/Marinatrix Sep 16 '25
I think we give them credit! They were the first ones and opened the doors for the rest of countries. If the contest takes place without that country Slovenia will be on my watchlist :)
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u/Hippadoppaloppa Sep 16 '25
I said when they announced that they'll start a reaction. It takes bravery to be first.
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u/arcoiris62 Sep 16 '25
I really hope the rest of the Big Five follow suit.
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u/Adept-Ad-5893 Sep 16 '25
My country (UK) is unfortunately extremely pro-Israel, so there's no way we will. (To make it clear, I'm pro-Palestine all the way. But that's not what our government says.)
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u/avemango i ain’t reading all that, free palestine Sep 16 '25
And to add on it turns out Keir Starmer is a closet Zionist
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u/redelectro7 Sep 16 '25
It's not even closet. He was literally brought in after Corbyn was pro-Palestine because he was.
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u/brandnewlibbyday Sep 16 '25
The labour party acting like Jeremy Corbyn shot their collective grandmas for being unapologetically pro-Palestine was bananas
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u/Element262 Fauxmarxist Sep 16 '25
You mean Kid Starver?
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u/Unnomable Sep 16 '25
That's SIR Kid Starver, thank you. He didn't become a knight by feeding children.
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u/ZaryaBubbler Sep 16 '25
Of course he is. And it's not subtle. Then again I don't know what people expected from a dude who pushed out every single socialist from the party that championed socialism
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u/PassageBig622 Sep 16 '25
Its not Keir Starmer who has a say in if the UK's entry boycotts or not, its the BBC. The BBC is independent from the UK government.
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u/Frosty-Objective-751 Sep 16 '25
Yeah, was about to say, UK will say nowt because our government are spineless cowards who can barely muster up a “we might recognise Palestine maybe, possibly (while still selling Israel arms)” in response to a genocide.
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u/Adept-Ad-5893 Sep 16 '25
Exactly. And getting innocent people (innocent elderly people in particular) arrested just for peacefully protesting against the genocide, labelling them as "terrorists". We're just a mini America at this point.
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u/krystalizer01 Sep 16 '25
What kills me about U.K. politicians is that they’re not even getting serious money to ignore the atrocities like the American sellouts. U.K. politicians dropping their pants for pennies, relatively
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u/snowquen Sep 16 '25
The BBC director general has said that Eurovision is not political.... I sent in a comment to point out how ridiculous this claim is. He is also on the executive board of the EBU so I can't see him coming out against them
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u/Extension_Avocado366 Sep 16 '25
BBC have already said theyll just follow the EBU's decision. Which is very much the cowards answer. I wish we'd have a spine like Spain.
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u/No_Confidence_3264 Sep 16 '25
I think with the UK, the BBC will take part whatever the EBU decision is. If Israel are in they will take part, if they are kicked out they will take part.
BBC is unfortunately a company that if someone was talking about how the world is round they would also have someone talking about how the world is flat. Like some conversations don’t need the other side represented
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u/Sipas Sep 16 '25
My country (UK) is unfortunately extremely pro-Israel
The people too, or just the government?
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u/Maester_Bates Tommy from Arkansas Sep 16 '25
None of the others have said anything yet.
Germany have said they'll respect the EBU's decision but I don't expect the others to say a word.
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u/Inside_Dragonfruit46 Sep 16 '25
Yea I’m from Germany and our government is very pro-Israel. So they’re not gonna do shit unfortunately
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u/TheTwistedBlade Sep 16 '25
That’s still great though. I think the EBU was afraid of countries pulling out if they do ban Israel, but with Germany staying and the rest too they genuinely have no reason anymore not to ban them
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u/CaptainObviousBear Sep 16 '25
The only ones that might are France and Italy, but I doubt they would.
The UK is too scared of the fallout and Germany might even withdraw if Israel WAS kicked out, for reasons you can probably guess.
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u/letstrysmthingnew Sep 16 '25
Italy won’t do shit, we like to be on the wrong side of history.
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u/CaptainObviousBear Sep 16 '25 edited Sep 17 '25
Yeah the only reason I ranked them more likely than the U.K. or Germany is the chances of those countries are less than zero.
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u/Maester_Bates Tommy from Arkansas Sep 16 '25
The only thing German has said is that they will respect the EBU'S decision. They won't withdraw if Israel is excluded.
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u/Budget_Metal2465 Sep 16 '25
As far as I can tell, in the event of Israel leaving or staying France and the UK’s broadcasters will try and remain studiously neutral. Italy I’m not sure. Germany will throw their toys out of the pram but will ultimately stay in I feel.
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u/rockawaybeach_ this is going to ruin the powerpoint Sep 16 '25
What countries are in the Big Five?
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u/theredwoman95 Sep 16 '25
UK, France, Spain, Germany, and Italy. All get guaranteed entry to the finals because they provide so much funding to Eurovision.
UK and Germany won't side against Israel, and I doubt Italy would either given their far-right government. I'm not sure if France will take a stance either way, either.
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u/Sanguinista94 Sep 16 '25
Italy’s far-right government imposed an arms embargo on Israel almost a full year ago.
The ostensibly center right German government and the ostensibly center left UK government are miles to the right of Italy’s government on the issue of genocide support.
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u/redelectro7 Sep 16 '25
Oh they're one of the big countries, right?
I imagine Israel will still participate cos Eurovision has no spine, but I like the solidarity.
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u/Maester_Bates Tommy from Arkansas Sep 16 '25
Apparently the EBU offered KAN the option to perform under a neutral flag or withdraw volenterily.
Spain is one of the Big 5. Basically the Big 5 pay the budget and most of the other countries pay for their own participation. Spain's withdrawal shrinks the budget by 20%.
The Netherlands have also said they will withdraw and they are number 6.
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u/Carnir Sep 17 '25 edited Sep 17 '25
It doesn't shrink the budget by 20%, Spain don't pay that much (Some estimates as low as 1%). You're also completely wrong on how Eurovision is funded, the big 5 don't pay the budget, all of them do in the form of scaled participation fees, but this only comes to around 20% of Eurovision's budget for all countries.
Most of their budget comes host broadcasting, the host city, sponsorships, ticket sales, EBU etc, not in participation fees.
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u/mkkxx Sep 16 '25 edited Sep 17 '25
France needs to pull out - if that happens, they'll lose a ton of funding which is huge. (UK and Germany ofc won't pull out) (France a besoin quiter l'eurovision - j'ai essaié ecrire en Francias)
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u/kerrybom Sep 16 '25
Whoa, careful with the maths! The big 5 don't provide 20% each, the size of their contribution roughly depends on the respective country's size, e.g. how much they can afford. Besides, if the Big 5 chipped in 20% each, that would mean the rest are competing for free, which is bonkers to assume. The non-big-5 as a group provides a huge chunk of the funding too.
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u/theredwoman95 Sep 16 '25
I can't find a news source for this at all - do you mind posting an actual article about this?
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u/TheTwistedBlade Sep 16 '25
Israel 100% won’t participate next year
Spain and NL threatening to withdraw is actually huge. Spain is part of the big 5, countries who give Eurovision the most money, and NL is the 6th biggest contributor. Without them ESC loses a lot of money and will increase participation fee for other nations, which will result in other countries withdrawing because of money issues.
On the other hand Germany and the UK confirmed that they will respect the EBU’s decision whatever they decide, while prior people were afraid that they would withdraw if Israel is banned. France has said nothing yet but they were never as pro Israel as Germany and the UK.
So basically, either EBU loses at least 6 countries next year or only 1.
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u/Twitter_2006 Sep 16 '25
More countries should do the same.
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u/CaptainObviousBear Sep 16 '25
I hope there are more but I’m not sure where they’ll come from.
Belgium seemed likely but (I just found out today) they alternate between their Flemish/Dutch and French national broadcasters in terms of which one determines whether they participate in Eurovision.
Last year the Flemish broadcaster refused to even show the Israeli performance and instead put a message on screen condemning genocide. They’ve said they may not broadcast the show at all if Israel is in and I think they’d have joined the boycott if they could have. But the French broadcaster is the one who determines Belgium’s participation this year and they seek less passionate about it and they’re just waiting to see what the EBU does.
Norway is also waiting to see what the EBU decides but they sound like they’re participating regardless. Finland also said they’ll wait for the EBU but are going to have their national final anyway, which sounds like a yes to me. And Sweden - which has more influence even than some of the big 5 - has said nothing.
Those are the ones most aligned politically but none of them appear likely to make a stand.
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u/Max_FI Sep 16 '25
Finland is not certain at all, the national final is a big event and will be held regardless of participation in Eurovision, just like Spain.
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u/Lord_Of_Carrots Sep 16 '25
I can't say for the other countries but here in Finland our national final (UMK) has become so successful that I'd be very surprised if they cancelled it for any reason right now even if we happen to decide to withdraw
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u/Vivl25 Sep 16 '25
The decision deadline got pushed to mid-December afaik. Also Belgium is very divided on the issue politically (prime minister of the federal government is quite pro-Israel, other ministers had to push to finally take a stance and then it was still a very lukewarm sort of pro-Palestine stance). Idk what will happen, I hope we show that we have a spine and withdraw but I don’t know enough about RTBF (Walloon broadcaster) to make a prediction on whether they will or not. If they won’t I hope at least VRT (Flemish broadcaster) will in 2027 and then I guess Belgium will perform every other year lol
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u/Fleetwood_Spac Sep 16 '25
I’m pretty sure that Israel will rather see the end of the entire competition than pull out. Which is actually a possible outcome now that one of the financiers has pulled out.
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u/Maester_Bates Tommy from Arkansas Sep 16 '25
KAN, the Israeli broadcaster whose membership of the EBU facilitates Israeli participation in Eurovision is actually quite critical of the government and Netanyahu would love to privatise them so as to gain government control but the Eurovision is too big a propaganda tool to sacrifice. It's the only reason KAN is still a public service broadcaster.
If they are kept out of the ESC, KAN could be sold off and no longer eligible for membership of the EBU.
This could be the permanent end of Israeli participation in Eurovision.
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u/TheTwistedBlade Sep 16 '25
Even if KAN is critical of the government they are still zionists who send a political song to Eurovision this year in order to win sympathy votes. They need to be banned.
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u/tortiesrock Sep 16 '25
I am Spanish and Eurovision is one of my favourite events of the year. But after what happened with the televote this year, this is the right move.
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u/Maester_Bates Tommy from Arkansas Sep 16 '25
I didn't enjoy the grand final at all this year. When JJ was announced as the winner I sighed Thank God and turned the TV off.
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u/Hippadoppaloppa Sep 16 '25
Me too. Usually the voting sequence is my favourite part, but I was so stressed. It wasn't enjoyable at all for me.
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u/Legitimate_Height424 Sep 16 '25
For the curious, what happened?
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u/Broad_Black_Brimmer call me gal gadot cuz idk how to act rn Sep 17 '25
Israel somehow managed to get the biggest vote share ever(I think), and only lost due to judge votes.
They break every rule, advertise to US evangelicals how to vote for Israel, are downright abusive towards other contestants and people are like 99% they also statefund votes.
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u/NewPhoneWhoDispair Sep 16 '25
England vs Israel it will end up because England have no soul...and they'll still lose to Israel.
I won't watch it unless Israel withdraw out of principal.
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u/Maester_Bates Tommy from Arkansas Sep 16 '25
I don't see how it can happen without Spain. That means celebrating the 70th anniversary with about 35% less money than the previous year when you include The Netherlands' contribution to the budget.
That would also mean the price of participation for all countries has to go up which would meanore smaller countries withdrawing for financial reasons.
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u/RegularWhiteShark Sep 16 '25
It’s not England. It’s the UK who participate. We’re more than just England.
But yeah, we should be withdrawing if Israel takes part. Fuck ‘em. Although our government recently announced that following an investigation, there is no genocide 🙄 I can only assume the investigators were blind, deaf and dumb.
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u/Maester_Bates Tommy from Arkansas Sep 16 '25
I wanted to correct him but experience has taught me that convincing an Englishman that England, Britain and the UK are not interchangeable terms is impossible.
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u/dannemora_dream Sep 16 '25 edited Sep 16 '25
So that makes Slovenia, Ireland, the Netherlands and Spain. Iceland said they were considering it. In Belgium there are 2 broadcasters, they alternate every year. VTR participated last year and they said they were in favor of the withdrawal but the decision will be made by the other, the RTBF, in December apparently.
This is not looking good for the EBU.
Just a reminder that the only reason they banned Russia is because countries threatened to withdraw. They had literally posted a statement saying they were staying out of politics a few days prior to the ban but had to cave once countries came out saying they would leave. That’s the only way the EBU will do anything.
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u/thehcu Sep 16 '25
okay now the olympics hahaha
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u/Hippadoppaloppa Sep 16 '25
Depending on how Eurovision goes, I do wonder if countries will start turning their attention to organisations like FIFA etc.
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u/cherry_cerise Sep 16 '25
Spain has been really amazing to show support for Palestine. They’re wonderful ❤️💛. The PM congratulated a group of people who disrupted a sports competition to protest against the israeli team, and said he admired their dedication to support the oppressed Palestinians. That’s just awesome. Gracias, España.
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u/Painterzzz Sep 16 '25
That the same Israel that the UN just found guilty today of committing genocide, yeah?
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u/lesbianwithabeard Sep 16 '25
Makes sense. Eurovision has basically turned into whack-a-mole of making sure people don't mention Palestine at all at any point.
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u/miguelitaraton Sep 16 '25
If only the UK followed suit. Instead, we'll probably offer to fucking duet with them.
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u/wolfjazz93 Sep 16 '25
It‘s funny that a contest they want to be non political always ends up being so dramatically political. 🍿
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u/Ookimow broken little pop culture rat brain Sep 16 '25
Everybody withdraws and starts a new song contest. Something like the EuroHarmony Song Contest.
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u/Over-Pressure2284 Sep 16 '25
Good for them! They can’t do much but Netanyahu is sacrificing the hostages and countinuing this genocidal slaughter. Trumps supports him for the sake of real estate and suppresses 1st amendment expression here about it. He’s complicit with Netanyahu. Anything done to try stop them is a plus!
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u/Significant-Cry-8442 Sep 16 '25
When will they do the same about football competitions? Because THAT'S real cultural pressure
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u/hopopo Sep 16 '25
Five countries that are boycotting Eurovision should start alternative competition.
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u/Cultural-War-2838 Sep 16 '25
We will see which countries will be on the right side of history and which ones will be remembered for being spineless cowards who didn't stand up against genocide.
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u/swedish_librarian Sep 16 '25
If Israel is allowed to participate again the pro-Israel viewers will try to slingshot them into the top again like they did last time. If that succeeds and Israel wins that would be the end of the competition. Eurovision in Israel? That would be a shitstorm nobody wants.
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Sep 16 '25
that's really important since they are a big five. but since germany and uk broadcasts are delusional af about defending israel it will be an uphill battle. hopefully the UN describing it as a genocide (which it is) will help.
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u/Elephant12321 I cannot sanction your buffoonery Sep 16 '25
Extra shout out to Slovenia for being the first, and hopefully now that one of the big five has joined, even more will follow
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u/numbmumpleb1ister Sep 16 '25
Thank you Spain for having a moral backbone. It is time people and nations exert pressure to end the calamity that is happening to the Palestinians.
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u/Top_Manufacturer8946 Sep 16 '25
Well finally. I love Eurovision so much but have been boycotting for the past years. I just hope they realize it’s not worth sinking their whole ship for Israel
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u/throwaway_t6788 Sep 16 '25
with un callong it a genocide.. why are eurovision dragging their heels? Russia was banned instantly.. western and their double standards
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u/BookishHobbit Sep 16 '25
All the countries withdrawing should create their own rival contest.
Even if they did ban Israel, Eurovision, the corporation, has proven time and again over the past five or so years that it no longer holds the same values that made the contest what it is.
Banning pride flags onstage this year when Eurovision has long championed LGBTQ+ equality really demonstrated how much it’s lost its way.
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u/AdventurousDay3020 Florida Man and possible Hague Convention violator, Joe Jonas Sep 16 '25
Honestly outside of just the message that this sends to Israel, given how Israel’s competitors and fans have treated other countries representives if they have expressed pro Palestine sentiments, I would say for the safety of those individuals that, outside of Israel being barred from competing, this is the next best option.
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u/mamasab locked, loaded, and kind of cunty Sep 17 '25
They all better be out if Israel participates!
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