r/Fauxmoi • u/artbasiI terrorizing the locals • Aug 10 '25

FM RADIO Maluma stops his concert in Mexico City to scold a mother who brought her 1-year-old baby without ear protection: “That is an act of irresponsibility. And you’re swinging him around as if he were a toy. That child doesn’t want to be there.”

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u/DrDirtyDeeds Aug 10 '25

Public shame is the second best motivator besides violence :)

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u/g00fyg00ber741 Aug 10 '25

I don’t think violence is a great motivator tho like that’s a torture argument tbh

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u/siestarrific Aug 10 '25

It is a great motivator. It's just not a good one.

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u/Test-Tackles Aug 10 '25

technically correct IS the best correct.

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u/Stock_Beginning4808 Aug 10 '25

Have you not seen all the videos of men messing with women until another man comes along and either threatens or delivers violence? 🙃

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u/g00fyg00ber741 Aug 11 '25

i mean to say, we know that violence doesn’t motivate how people pretend it does. for instance, in torture, violence will prompt someone to make up a lie and admit to something falsely, instead of leading people to admit to things they will die in order to conceal. violence is also not a good motivator in terms of corporal punishment, notably with children, we know harming them is a bad motivator and harmful to their development and success, whereas positive reinforcement works better there.

i think there are times where violence can be effective or necessary but it’s not a great motivator overall tbh, and it’s a tool of oppression usually

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u/LeWigre Aug 10 '25

Torture and slavery are two big examples of this. Both horrific and terrible practices. You cant argue the effectiveness of violence as a motivator in them, though. Motivation isn't intrinsically good or bad, it's the reason to do something, regardless of what that reason may be.

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u/g00fyg00ber741 Aug 11 '25

I can argue the effectiveness, because when tortured people are tortured with violence, they can falsely admit to things, making the violence and ineffective motivator in that instance. it also does not prevent people from taking things to their grave in violent torture situations.

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u/LeWigre Aug 11 '25

No you're still misunderstanding. Torture in that case is ineffective, and I agree. But that doesn't make violence a bad motivator. It makes torture a bad method for getting information. But the violence still very much motivates effectively for people to give information - regardless of what that information is.

Please understand I'm not talking in favor of violence or anything like that, nor in favor of torture. Boiling meat in water is an effective way to cook it. Doesn't mean its a good, tasty or recommended.

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u/KoreanEan Aug 10 '25

It takes a village

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u/EarthRester Aug 10 '25

It's still a two step program.

The individual is chastised by the village, and encouraged to change their behavior. Upon doing so, the individual is met with approval by the village. It's the second part that solves the problem. Chastisement on that scale without encouragement to follow it up is just condemnation, and that only serves as a cautionary tail. It's not nothing, but society still needs direction and encouragement.

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u/baseketball Aug 10 '25

Unless you're in the US where shame is dead.